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Hey guess what? The 27 times more likely to be harassed comes from the retracted UN report. Thanks UN!

http://adland.tv/adnews/pr-lying-your-way-congress-katherine-clark-piece-headline-references-retracted-report

I also love how they complain that Trump made fun of a woman's personal appearance but never do they note others make fun of Trump's personal appearance. The article also attempts to shill for a bill that is not only unnecessary but also a violation of freedom

Have an Archive link

And more on Sarkessian being "It's OK when I do it"

Also Anti-gamergate IDGA Ex Dev steps down, though the replacement could be just as bad

Opinion
A thought occurs, Anita Sarkeesian is the Andrew Wakefield of Media.

What do I mean by this?

Andrew Wakefield got a flawed paper published linking autism to vaccines which has been proven to be false on numerous occasions for well over a decade. (Evidence shows he did it for the money) It was redacted and his medical credentials were revoked.

Anita has been pushing a message that harassment only comes from goony neck-bearded white males and has warped feminism (from being about trying to raise women to the equality of men) to the belief that men are always the problem. (Evidence shows that she's doing this for the money) Now as a result, it appears that her support is starting to collapse and she might be dismissed from her positions as an "expert" on the harassment of women.

The only frightful parallel is that like Wakefield she might be Celebrated as a Martyr in select groups that could lead to dangerous cult like fanaticism that could result in several avoidable consequences.

end opinion

Also poorly written article title suggests that Opposing Ex Neogaf Mod that was arrested for being extremely creepy was a Liberal Feminist Gamergater

Even though the article is written with correct information, it shows that Editors love the clickbait.

Troy Leavitt debunks the criticism of the "Damsel in distress" trope by explaining how it goes combined with another trope that could be held as negative to men. His arguments are simply amazing.

CNN is officially triggered. They're threatening to dox the dude who made the Trump bodyslam meme.

http://archive.is/Aa8h6
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/882422267166195713

It's not too surprising considering they're easily one of the most morally bankrupt "news" organisations and this basically earns them one of the top 3 spots next to Gawker.

Some people might be asking what this means for gamergate (aside from the journalism ethics part) but quite frankly if they can't figure out that CNN is willing to dox people who don't agree with them and that will include gamergate members…

Even if you hate trump and watch CNN this is bullshit. They are trying to hide behind the excuse that the guy is calling for violence because of the tweet, but come on, its fucking WWE, which is known fake fighting. We've gotten to the point where we have a major news network that is willing to dox on someone shit posting on them. CNN needs to be cleaned out.

Could you imagine if foxnews did this to some pro-hillary shit poster?

@Mrkillultra

As much as I agree that this should be discussed and is somewhat related to Gamergate, there's now a #CNNBlackmail article for this.

Gamergate's focus is ethics in games journalism and resistance against identity politics. CNN playing Mafia against a photoshop happy, trump supporting 15 yr old (Source: 4chan, so this identifier that's questionable) who went to them to apologize and got threatened with a dox if he didn't tow the line to serve as an example.

(the above are your hyperlinks for ease of clicking vs copy paste)

Even the executives in charge of the article are proud of their tactics

Not to mention the justification running around with CNN and BBC trying to make it look like an act of mercy.

And this spin as well

But, sadly, unless someone directly ties this to Gamers or Gamergate or mentions anyone involved. It's risky to talk about it here.

Unless there's a weird parallel of contacting advertisers to remove CNNs funding (Kia link) but that would also be closely related and again no blaming of gamer or a game drop. Give it a day or two before they start blaming the Hacker 4chan and the malicious gaming terrorist organization that's literally worse than an Isis of Hitlers. Until then,
I believe that this topic should be talked about in its relevant area so that this thread doesn't get locked.

(Note: I'm being flippant, continue to keep discussing since Gamergate, and its supporters are, working on an email campaign, this time against Time Warner and CNN)

I don't think we should discuss it, even though the blatant lack of privacy ethics certainly shows their morals to be warped, and might make them look like hypocrites.

Whelp it's been linked through a gamedrop article now.

So now it's related to Gamergate in a loose sense.

However I highly recommend watching the Phillip De franco bit of article to get a better bearing on the events:

Honestly I don't think gamedropping should be counted as related enough for anything more than a passing mention. I always hate when the center of discussion is the label "GamerGate" itself rather than what it was supposed to represent. Just wasting time looking at every schmuck that goes "muh gamergate" instead of actually focusing on bigger ethical breaches, in my opinion.

Also, I don't know why people are trying to somehow justify this being here, since there's already a perfectly valid place to discuss it elsewhere. Even if there's some overlap of interest in the users, is there any reason whatsoever to bring that discussion here rather than go to where the discussion is right now?

I guess it's back to being in the minority when it comes to "Gaming industry ethics > General journalism ethics".

Actually I think gamedropping in and out of itself is a huge ethical breach. Especially since its been a year now and its been proven repeatedly that gamergate hasn't done the things they pretend its does.

"In 2014 the Gamergate movement shunned big names like Mercedes, Intel and Adobe, and somehow this snowballed into the fall of the Gawker empire."

And somehow? So the writer didn't want to do the research? Gamergate isn't necessarily about the discussion of game journalist ethics anymore especially with mainstream media repeating the claims of game journalists now. If people want the siege on gamer identity and the right to associate as a gamer (gamers are dead as an article has not been retracted and it looks as if the narrative is still going) then we're definitely going to have to look at the mainstream media which is also peddling that narrative. The only reason gamers became under siege to begin with is the blatant lack of ethics in all of the news reporting media. So to not talk about ethics in all of the media and only focus on a subset seems to ignoring the reason why gamergate started and instead focusing on the symptom that caused it.

Why have the discussion here and not there. Well for starters here will talk more about the ethics over there can talk more about Trump and the memes being made.

Regardless even if it's considered offtopic to talk about this, there's still so much more to talk about that we can make do without this topic.

I just gonna leave this here to support my reasoning as to why Gamedropping is relevant to talking about GG.

Simply put any article that mentions Gamergate is directly related to Gamergate and therefore is on topic and appropriate for this thread.

(Someone get the phone, because I called it.)

Another Gamedrop, calling the #cnnblackmail event a play out of #Gamergate

It's like journalist's don't know how to construct the words "Consumer Revolt"

While I'm not the most inclined to believe everything the internet says about CNN, this could set a huge precedent if it proceeds the way it's looking like it will. People and particularly those people in journalism need to know that they can't act out this way anymore.

You know what I think will happen? Everyone will forget about this in two days (except Facebook), CNN will issue a bland form apology, and in a week we'll be back to desperately hunting for something new to say about gaming journalism. On the other hand, new details could emerge and either oust CNN as a tabloid to rival Breitbart and the Enquirer or destroy the conflict's momentum entirely. I've given up trying to predict this shit after Gawker and the Trump campaign.

That or more like they can't leave the corpse of GamerGate alone. Plus, while GamerGate is something that's divisive in a sense, the CNN shitstorm managed to get a lot of people together to say how badly CNN dun goofed.

Well it's next week and it looks like CNN is doing the 180 turnaround

Shifting its position from "We could dox this guy if he changes his tune" to "Doxxing is super bad."

However it's position as a network has dropped a bit as a result and they've become more untrustworthy.

Troy Leavitt debunks yet another argument used by journalists who want to change the industry for an agenda.

@alarkoz

While I appreciate how this is related to videogames and how journalists use this to bash videogames…

I don't see a direct correlation to Gamergate. Maybe if you you talk about how the youtuber has a series directly confronting anita and has talked about gamergate before?

Just trying to keep this thread on somewhat on a track.

That said to keep this post on track as well:

The national gamedrops

Mic gets its history wrong and misrepresents the origins of Gamergate

Cnet tells the plight of WU and her actions in the great gamergate war

And gamergate is the that which must not be named

Well. Leavitt is totally related to GamerGate. First of all his debunking is of lies spread by Aggros, and often used as an excuse to depict us as misogynist pigs by press outlets. It is all related. Let's not forget GamerGate is not just about journalism and not about how often they talk about us, but also about debunking blatant lies spread by certain groups by taking advantage of the press.

Right, there we go. You have to mention the tie to gamergate everytime you post content lest some mod goes through and lists everything they think is not related and off topic, putting it at grounds for closing this discussion thread.

Just a covering "our butts" sort of thing.

Anyway to cover our butts further:

Gamergate is a buzzword, a regular basket of deplorables according to Jef from the Houston Press

Also Liz Ryerson, some sort of gaming composer? Or Blogger? (Honestly I can't figure out why she showed up on the radar) pulls out every ancient buzzword to say that Gamergate is 9/11's fault (twitter)

For international news:

CNN Turkey talks about Randi Harper's Doxxing of her Tax Collector vaguely to blame Gamergate for Doxxing

Brie Code and Anita "Sargon is a garbage person" Sarkeesian are to give a Keynote speech for a European Women in Games conference.

(Anita being a direct opponent of Gamergate and profiteering on any drama she can posing as a victim.)

So there's been some news about gamergater's being opposed to the reveal of the new Doctor for doctor who being a woman. (They don't say gamergate but rather "Actually it's about ethics in games journalism")

Research shows this to be bunk

Needless to say, Anita has decided that her input as an expert in female representation is worthwhile

(The server on Archive.is is being wonky)

Wikipedia prevents new editor from having power position because it keeps thinking Gamergate is harassment against women despite being disproven and having their sources refuted for not being reliable.

Notch doubles down. (Kia Link becuase it's a better summary of events.)

Maximum respect.

Even though he has nothing to lose now ,since he sold Minecraft to Microsoft, so Anita and her lackeys won't gain anything by ruining his rep.

Honest question: Regardless of whatever you think gamergate really is or what it's doing, do you really think the state of games "journalism" today is anything close to decent?

To be honest I really don't like how a lot of people try to push all this non-gaming related bullshit as "gamergate" but I couldn't care less about the actual label, I care about the gaming industry, which is why I rarely come to this thread anymore. But do you genuinely think gaming journalism is in a decent state right now?

Eh. I think its okay.

What makes it funny: whether or not one sees it as angry dudes circlejerking, the fact you have people trying to make clickbait out of it such as saying these guys are what got Trump into office and such makes it all hilarious. The idea that a bunch of gamers got a celebrity/businessman as President makes one wonder how many people would be dumb enough to think of it as some fact. The fact you also have some random "journalist" use GamerGate as part of some article headline just adds up more to them being nothing more than clickbait.

Admit it though. You jizz yourself whenever senpai still notices you after all this time.

Considering the person you're replying to has put the term journalists in extra quotations, the implication is no, s/he does not think "journalism" today is decent.

Ignore those guys. Their sole purpose is derailing us from our goal of fixing the state of mainstream journalism (Which goes beyond gaming with things such as CNN blackmailing a dude.) and preventing censorship and ideological preaching in video games.
We all have seen how politically preachy games and censored games are met negatively by gamers, even though the gaming press tries to pretend they are a success.
We all have seen mainstream press spreading the most outrageous lies.
Pay no heed to those who claim this is anything but a civil discussion on matters that concern a group of people who has been proven over and over again clear of any ill intentioned activity. Even the FBI backs us in that regard.

Eh, I honestly don't care whether or not this thread gets derailed since I just like to see how these people could respond. Personally, I can admit once being for GamerGate in the very beginning for better ethics (SJW's I did not really care about so much as just wanting to see better transparency). At this point, I don't care much for it (ethics achieved or not) outside of just laughing at either side where one guy thinks SJW's will truly destroy video games or some other guy thinking a bunch of people being part of GamerGate will throw some ISIS styled terrorism at random people. tl;dr, I'm just here for salt at this point (and maybe some fan art of Vivian James that doesn't dip into Deviant Art tier creepiness).

Really though, I do ask how can one even fix mainstream journalism? It would require these news outlets to actually realize things like their own hypocrisy and avoid putting out some sort of bias (then again, one can say every news outlet has some sort of bias regardless of political stance).

I always find it amusing how many people will come in here and in KIA and 8chan and everywhere else we gather to tell us how unimportant we are and how much they don't care.

If you actually believed that then why are you here? If you don't care about GamerGate then why come here? If you believe we're wasting our time then why are you wasting your own time here?

@SicklyVivian

If you want some choice Vivians, the booru is right here.

Of course you'll have to dig through the crap to get the gold.

For those of you keeping tabs on the Geena Davis Institute, there was a fullpage ad for this in the paper: Geena Davis headlines ‘Women in Conversation’ event at Green Music Center (Sonoma State University, California)

If one didn't care about GamerGate and yet came in here to say they don't, it would be (for lack of a better word so pardon my French) autistic. Yeah, one could point out this thread might be circle jerking and all but it wouldn't excuse the fact one literally just came up here just to say they didn't care like it accomplished something.

I myself believe GamerGate ran its course but then again, the internet autism/salt it has may as well keep flowing, be it on social media like Twitter or on other websites. In other words, its corpse may as well act as some sort of fuel for salt.

Meanwhile with that corpse, a tie in to the latest internet drama and memes

Totalbiscuit kinda did a 180 from supporting gamergate to dismissing stupid memes as hatespeech. Though it might have to do with external pressure. See above video for details.

Latest news on the comic front, apparently GamerGate is a big inspiration for the serpent who convinced Adam & Eve to eat that apple in the Garden of Eden.

GamerGate did Satan!

KIA has more.

An evil super villain who no doubt does countless cruel acts and yet he wishes to take credit for a hashtag that can end up being nothing more than autistic screeching in the eyes of neutrals. Really? That sounds like a poor attempt at humor. It's like that unsolicited opinions on Israel thing. It wouldn't really make much sense (unless this guy loved the screeching on both sides).

One possible way of fixing mainstream journalism is by having a massive crash. Sort of similar with the video game industry crash and how people predict if there was another one stupid companies like EA and Konami will fade out of existence, leaving way for more people who actually care about what they do besides just money deciding the future of the game industry. Sort of like a "reset" button.

However, I'm not sure if the journalist industry is even capable of suffering a crash. Or whether or not if a crash actually happened if it'd lead to either more non-biased sites coming up or the exact opposite with very biased sites coming up.

well this is a surprise.
I'd not think the thread would still be up. good to see you my dudes.
Whats going on GG now adays?

^@Bookie*
Christ that reference looks lazy. I think GG references have always been dumb, but at least they might use a different named hashtag that ends with "-gate" or say "It's about ethics in (something that isn't gaming journalism)". This is just as blatant as the Prison School one. And they do it while showing a woman's ass. I thought a person who talked about GG negatively would be against that stuff.

Errant Signal lumps Gamergaters with Sandy Hook Deniers, Anti-Vaxxers and 9/11 Truthers:

>tricks mankind into disobeying God
>introduces sin to humanity, thus dooming it from eternal happiness and closeness with God
>forces God to kill a part of himself in order to fix humanity's screw up
>is inspired by a twitter hashtag
No wonder he's going to get cast into the lake of fire. He's got terrible inspiration these days. He'll never top his original plan at this rate.

It is hard when your original plan is your best achievement. At this rate, Satan's gonna have to call it quits if using GamerGate as an inspiration is all he can do.

@ Blue Sun Deluxe

Because the people of an internet slap fight are on the same level as the other three. Then again, one would ask: what the hell is errant signal? It sounds like some obscure person or rag that tries to get relevance using something that only got like 10 minutes of fame a couple years back.

There's a lot to unpack. But if you want the recent bits… I can sum it up as I believe the event/happenings of GamerGate has devolved into some kind of version of the Illuminati, Freemasons or Boogyman legend.

To put in context, events dealing with anything remotely mimicking the repetition of gamergate (IE Consumer revolt) gets labled as The next gamergate

And there's still drops going around.

Like this one stating critique as harassment on art

This one talking about surviving Gamergate as a Badge of honor

Another one about comics and standing against trolls

And this bit relating to the recent drama on the internet

And these stories were all posted earlier today and yesterday.

(All of these articles mention Gamergate in some capacity.)

So yeah, while GG might be in a Shrodinger State, what's going on about it is still… well ongoing for lack of a better term.

I believe it's because they really do care. They full well know that GG is still relevant (at least in the background), that we beat their ugly butts so hard that the elite among them still treat us as some eldritch boogieman and fall back to accusing us over anything when they've got nothing else, and they know that it is really they who are unimportant and are doing nothing to benefit the world.

They're projecting, basically.

"Badge of honor?" That's not a badge. That's a toe tag.

Yep, and they'll keep saying "GamerGate is dead! GamerGate is dead! GamerGate is dead!" as they attribute everything they dislike to the Jews the International Communist conspiracy Satan FUCKING GOOFYGOOBER!

Going to quote Umberto Eco's essay Ur-Fascism here:

> When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers of Ur-Fascism must also be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies.

> Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

They are incapable of looking at things objectively and thus are doomed to lose this culture war.

@the last user that got downvoted

>>You guys (messed) gamergate up because instead of trying to better yourselves at the movement itself, you just ignored every ugly thing gamergaters did…

>>You guys (messed) gamergate up

>>You guys

Yeah I'm just gonna stop this right there. This is an ARCHIVE, not a support to one positive unified spin of the gamergate events. We don't ignore, we state fact and record. Previous articles posted here have told stories about the horrors of Gamergate and the awful things done in its name. Complete with witness accounts and takes and spins from the opposition.

HOWEVER, the full account is also given and follow up stories are reported to paint a fuller picture detailing these events. Something about Verifying these claims. So your reasoning of what isn't being done here holds no argument.

Also as a formal warning, your choice of language, censored above is in violation of the rules, specifically bullet point 7 of section 1 as agreed to when posting in these forums/on KYM. It is reiterated in rule #6 of the forum rules. This is your only formal warning, a repeated offense shall involve a report to the mods.

As for more accounts of the terrible things Gamergate has done:

GQ reports that Joe Scarborough thinks that young men, specifically those in Gamergate should be out there risking their lives in wars

Gamergate is really an ISIS recruiting tool

From Spain:

Gamergate Hires women as dancers to harass female game devs

So when you state that Gamergate isn't being reported for the malicious thing you accuse if of, I have no idea what you're talking about.

As for the good you wish to see it has brought?
To sum in one word: Skepticism. In three: Trust but Verify.

Gawker is gone. Google is in meltdown with itself. Youtube is being exposed for the Right think its pushing from it's biggest contributors. The Red Pill (film, IMDB 8.7, Rotten tomatoes 33%) was/is the most popular documentary on Amazon and Milo's Dangerous book was/is the current best seller (4.4 stars on Barns and noble, 91% approval on google). CNN is now one of the most mistrusted news networks in America.

Pedophiles have been exposed, scam artists are now losing money as their ploys are being revealed. And minds are being changed. Gamergate as an instance, may be dead dated from August of 2014. But it's impact echos onwards.