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Breeding mass shooters makes me feel like 2008 was calling. At most with SDiF, I can see it being propaganda at the very least but I'd be surprised if it's more than just some military themed FPS.

As for Extra Credits, last thing I heard from them was a video going over "evil races." The only argument I can see against fictional races being purely evil is it being a trope that could lack depth but from what I heard on the video, it tries to tackle biological essentialism and moral complexity. I wouldn't mind fictional races having nuance and depth to them but I can also imagine that doesn't mean "purely evil race" should be euthanized as a trope or device.

To leave it all in a single post, I will start from top to lowest priority.

1. Extra Credits maks no sense. The argument they use implies they think black people are inferior to other humans. Why? Because the reason orcs and other evil races are considered evil is because they lack humanity.

From their perspective, they are not evil. And in fact there are several worlds of fiction where they are depicted, not as evil, but as in conflict wiht humans.

With that said, I will argue a purely evil race is hard to write for me without feeling an ounce of guilt, unless they are something like ants or shapeless piles of blubber. Because whenever I write humanoids, I think of the potential of waifus in their species and refuse to write them as evil.

Want to end the evil race trope? Promote monster girls.

Second. On violent video games breeding mass shooters, and how it extends to other arguments. Last time I checked, most mass shooters didn't even care much about video games.

In fact a 2019 case I didn't know about until recently (Because it got popular in my country) involved a trans woman and an antisocial guy with TDS. They weren't even gun totting right wingers. No. They were leftist LGBT activists in their teenage years radicalyzed by news outlets. So… Let's just say videogames encourage no violence.

And it can extrapolate to most things. Contrary to what people say, porn does not encourage misogyny. In fact it seems to encourage the opposite since it makes men feel affection to the actress on screen. (Because, to no one's surprise, sex and affection are correlated). And, both based on statistics and real life, loli art does not encourage child sexual abuse.

These excuses for censorship take things we know are wrong, and tie them to things which are unrelated so that they can censor them. Meanwhile the proble will just get worse.

On the GmaerGate documentaries. The reason they claim GamerGate started it all is because it started it all to the masses. Before it, the average citizen didn't notice the creeping corruption and forced agendas. They just went by without caring, more often than not because it didn't affect them. That's why people like Sargon, Metokur, and Thunderfoot were already talking about these things but a fair share of people didn't listen.

Then came GamerGate. It confirmed the suspicion of some, especially within comics, and revealed the facts to many. And thus the first wave of actual counter movement started. Ever since then, GamerGate itself is no longer of relevance, but the culture war emerged in public discourse, and, to the chagrin of both SJW classic and the current puritans, it is threatening their authoritarian goals.

That's why the puritans keep talking about GamerGate. Because, for them, it never ended. It just grew into something they fear. Legitimate oposition and criticism.

Finally, on the AltRight. It existed before GamerGate. It was basically people on the right who thought the current right wing politicians betrayed them. Some were just right wingers, and others were full blown right wing SJWs. The later have gained more power within it, but the movement not only existed before GamerGate, but was entirely separate.

Itdid find common ground on many right wing gamers and conservatives which were legitimately upset by the evident left wing bias which emerged in their scapism since 2010. But they were both separate and in some cases in opposition.
For example, while most right wing gamers actually supported eroge and fan service, most AltRight conservatives actually want to censor erotic material in general. Therefore they pay a blind eye to such censorship.

One of the tools of propaganda and agenda pushers is misinformation. And tehy are doing the best to keep the propaganda machine running.

AlarkozTheAncient wrote:

To leave it all in a single post, I will start from top to lowest priority.

1. Extra Credits maks no sense. The argument they use implies they think black people are inferior to other humans. Why? Because the reason orcs and other evil races are considered evil is because they lack humanity.

From their perspective, they are not evil. And in fact there are several worlds of fiction where they are depicted, not as evil, but as in conflict wiht humans.

With that said, I will argue a purely evil race is hard to write for me without feeling an ounce of guilt, unless they are something like ants or shapeless piles of blubber. Because whenever I write humanoids, I think of the potential of waifus in their species and refuse to write them as evil.

Want to end the evil race trope? Promote monster girls.

Second. On violent video games breeding mass shooters, and how it extends to other arguments. Last time I checked, most mass shooters didn't even care much about video games.

In fact a 2019 case I didn't know about until recently (Because it got popular in my country) involved a trans woman and an antisocial guy with TDS. They weren't even gun totting right wingers. No. They were leftist LGBT activists in their teenage years radicalyzed by news outlets. So… Let's just say videogames encourage no violence.

And it can extrapolate to most things. Contrary to what people say, porn does not encourage misogyny. In fact it seems to encourage the opposite since it makes men feel affection to the actress on screen. (Because, to no one's surprise, sex and affection are correlated). And, both based on statistics and real life, loli art does not encourage child sexual abuse.

These excuses for censorship take things we know are wrong, and tie them to things which are unrelated so that they can censor them. Meanwhile the proble will just get worse.

On the GmaerGate documentaries. The reason they claim GamerGate started it all is because it started it all to the masses. Before it, the average citizen didn't notice the creeping corruption and forced agendas. They just went by without caring, more often than not because it didn't affect them. That's why people like Sargon, Metokur, and Thunderfoot were already talking about these things but a fair share of people didn't listen.

Then came GamerGate. It confirmed the suspicion of some, especially within comics, and revealed the facts to many. And thus the first wave of actual counter movement started. Ever since then, GamerGate itself is no longer of relevance, but the culture war emerged in public discourse, and, to the chagrin of both SJW classic and the current puritans, it is threatening their authoritarian goals.

That's why the puritans keep talking about GamerGate. Because, for them, it never ended. It just grew into something they fear. Legitimate oposition and criticism.

Finally, on the AltRight. It existed before GamerGate. It was basically people on the right who thought the current right wing politicians betrayed them. Some were just right wingers, and others were full blown right wing SJWs. The later have gained more power within it, but the movement not only existed before GamerGate, but was entirely separate.

Itdid find common ground on many right wing gamers and conservatives which were legitimately upset by the evident left wing bias which emerged in their scapism since 2010. But they were both separate and in some cases in opposition.
For example, while most right wing gamers actually supported eroge and fan service, most AltRight conservatives actually want to censor erotic material in general. Therefore they pay a blind eye to such censorship.

One of the tools of propaganda and agenda pushers is misinformation. And tehy are doing the best to keep the propaganda machine running.

They hated him because he told the truth.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

"Brianna Wu going off again":

Again, she literally did the same thing back in the years

And also the time with ChatterWhiteman, or the time where she made another sockpuppet account

Former Candidate for US House in MA everybody

I am not American, so I don't know everything about US law. But, as far as I know, perjury, that is false testimony, is a crime. How come she gets to run a political campaign instead of going to jail?
The FBI literally wasted time on the claims of her and her cabal. Yet she gets a free pass!

Lenny Guy wrote:

A couple of funny and relevant recent videos:

I remember seeing the second video on a Discord I go to, guy who posted said how the Dean Takahashi stuff was years ago. I'll admit, I agree that would be a dead horse but then again it's a blunder that's made its spot as something worthy to be laughed at and even mocked. All that's missing is the video taking a jab at Polygon for a blunder but the only one I can recall was someone playing Doom 2016 rather badly.

So Matt Jarbo (MundaneMatt) decided to pull a reverse Ian Miles moment.

It seems people are pretty upset that I regret my inaction in stopping the right-wing co-opting of gamergate. It's a fact that Milo yiannopoulos was sent in by Steve Bannon to co-opt the movement and weaponize it. It's a fact that right-wing grifters destroyed it Many of us who are on the left didn't fully realize at the time what was happening. After the fact many of us have had conversations about it and regret not saying more at the time. So yes, I regret not taking a stance back then. There is a through line between that co-opting of gamergate to the Insurrection on January 6th. It is a long road, but you can trace it back. Hindsight is 20/20, and oftentimes is where regret comes from."

All i know of this guy is that he took advantage of the movement after Zoe Quinn false flagged him. I don't even remember any co-opting in the past 7 years

It's basically just this image:

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Matt's story is ironic because he got popular due to a false flag, and became hated because he false-flagged people's videos on him. The dislike for him has been strong for years, and maybe his change of mind is genuine, but this does come at a time when his videos are doing SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE than in his better days.

Also, I remember him tweeting GG had nothing to do with the Capitol stuff on Jan 6th back around the time it took place. I do know he believed Milo was exploiting GG for other purposes, which I recall him saying in a video years ago, but that video might be totally scrubbed from the internet forever.

GamerGate never ended -the meaning shifted and the OGs refused to accept that meaning as a part of GamerGate.

What is GamerGate? -why, no one can know! The old members define it their way, the hardcore members have their definition, the new members have their meaning, and the liars in the media have their meaning. No one knows what the fuck they're talking about!

It doesn't matter either way though.

People will do whatever they want, because everyone knows that everyone else is full of shit either way. Welcome to the dystopian dumbassery of postmodernist politics shoehorned into gaming!

Addressing some points.
1. Dean Takahashi's blunder was so terrible even people with no direct involvment on the issue became aware of it.
To this day "Games Journalist" is equivalent to being bad at games. In fact recently a famous VTuber joked about how she was bad at Super Metroid, but not as bad as to be compared to a games journalist.
Being unable to complete a tutorial is something unforgivable.
2. Matt Mundane is quite a shameful man. He went from "Look at me. I'm challenging this sickening system which pollutes our society" to "Society needs the system to function." He has done a complete change of heart on so many things I can describe him as more than a grifter. Same with Milo TBH. At least Milo has some charisma despite his grifting. But Matt, Matt is so lacking in any positive traits the one thing people talk about him is how ridiculous he is.
He went from "patient zero of GamerGate" self appointed, mind you, to another literally who.
3. Speaking of literally whos, Brianna Wu got angry at pink robot pantsu last week. Of course she was offended because she can't create anything of value. Otherwise she wouldn't be trying to become a career politician.
4. Crispy. Are you perhaps Matt Jarbo trying to pass as someone else? Because the way you describe GamerGate is so incoherent I don't understand your position.
5. GamerGate was a good thing. It made many people question the current system. And nowadays it is very evident that system was unsustaiable. News outlets and entertainment are being used as propaganda machines for a cabal of individuals whose interests tie to centralizing all things into one single government. And they use identity politics for that purpose.
GamerGate exposed that. And, at least in my case, ironically, made me more inclusive than those who preach inclusivity. Before GamerGate, I never talked to a trans person (Mostly because I didn't have the chance). But specifically the threads in the articile in this site led me to meet one. Miss Fortune. I don't know what became of that user. Last time I checked, Fortune was working on transition. I hope everything went fine. With that said. It was because of GamerGate that I met an actual trans person, and not one promoted by the media, but another citizen like me.
And thus I consider GamerGate as the bane of identity politics. Because it stripped identity of its political function, and allowed many people, united by similar goals, under one single group where we met each other as individuals.
And, in the end, the best way to end bigotry is approaching all members of each demographic as individuals.
Maybe that is why I hold on to remaining somewhat involved on the topic. Because for me it led to learn valuable lessons, and to appreciate the value of people individually. GamerGate encouraged me to handle people individually to avoid the indentity based manipulation coming from media.

AlarkozTheAncient wrote:

Addressing some points.
1. Dean Takahashi's blunder was so terrible even people with no direct involvment on the issue became aware of it.
To this day "Games Journalist" is equivalent to being bad at games. In fact recently a famous VTuber joked about how she was bad at Super Metroid, but not as bad as to be compared to a games journalist.
Being unable to complete a tutorial is something unforgivable.
2. Matt Mundane is quite a shameful man. He went from "Look at me. I'm challenging this sickening system which pollutes our society" to "Society needs the system to function." He has done a complete change of heart on so many things I can describe him as more than a grifter. Same with Milo TBH. At least Milo has some charisma despite his grifting. But Matt, Matt is so lacking in any positive traits the one thing people talk about him is how ridiculous he is.
He went from "patient zero of GamerGate" self appointed, mind you, to another literally who.
3. Speaking of literally whos, Brianna Wu got angry at pink robot pantsu last week. Of course she was offended because she can't create anything of value. Otherwise she wouldn't be trying to become a career politician.
4. Crispy. Are you perhaps Matt Jarbo trying to pass as someone else? Because the way you describe GamerGate is so incoherent I don't understand your position.
5. GamerGate was a good thing. It made many people question the current system. And nowadays it is very evident that system was unsustaiable. News outlets and entertainment are being used as propaganda machines for a cabal of individuals whose interests tie to centralizing all things into one single government. And they use identity politics for that purpose.
GamerGate exposed that. And, at least in my case, ironically, made me more inclusive than those who preach inclusivity. Before GamerGate, I never talked to a trans person (Mostly because I didn't have the chance). But specifically the threads in the articile in this site led me to meet one. Miss Fortune. I don't know what became of that user. Last time I checked, Fortune was working on transition. I hope everything went fine. With that said. It was because of GamerGate that I met an actual trans person, and not one promoted by the media, but another citizen like me.
And thus I consider GamerGate as the bane of identity politics. Because it stripped identity of its political function, and allowed many people, united by similar goals, under one single group where we met each other as individuals.
And, in the end, the best way to end bigotry is approaching all members of each demographic as individuals.
Maybe that is why I hold on to remaining somewhat involved on the topic. Because for me it led to learn valuable lessons, and to appreciate the value of people individually. GamerGate encouraged me to handle people individually to avoid the indentity based manipulation coming from media.

The system wants us to be divided ideologically. Nuance is dead.

So Polygon made an article about Apex Legends stuff, and Respawn decided to correct some Titanfall 2 lore that Polygon missed out, only for to get game journalists and other people mad at Respawn for no reason other than Respawn fact checking.
You got like people like Gita Jackson getting buttmad, and Chris Plante blaming Gamergate

Fact checking is Gamergate thing, apparently.

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Sanakan_ht wrote:

So Polygon made an article about Apex Legends stuff, and Respawn decided to correct some Titanfall 2 lore that Polygon missed out, only for to get game journalists and other people mad at Respawn for no reason other than Respawn fact checking.
You got like people like Gita Jackson getting buttmad, and Chris Plante blaming Gamergate

Fact checking is Gamergate thing, apparently.

The responding tweet by Respawn may be because of Polygon's review of the game, which was criticized due to the circumstances in which they reviewed it. Plus their reporting with this game and the Apex games (also made by Respawn) appeared suspect and contradicting, which may also explain the responding tweet.

I get how the tweet by Respawn seemed a little snarky but it's sad how people got defensive on the site's behalf. It's tempting to think some people are very picky with criticism even if it's not directed at them. Polygon still updated things, though.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

Hey I know this seems off now, but I now just realized that someone in China tried to assassinate MiHoyo devs (who owns Honkai 3rd Impact and Genshin Impact because of the changes in Honkai 3rd Impact that is the bunny girls outfit.

Chinese players got so assfuck mad that one of them tried to assassinate one of the Mihoyo founders devs because they are going to add the bunny girls outfit.

It's easy to forget that moral puritans are not exclusive to the West.

Some stuff i may have missed in the past months, putting this here

r/KIA – There's a #Gamergate novel now, because of course there is.
Link to the book itself
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r/KIA – [Gamedrops] Reason Magazine's Glenn Garvin Misrepresents Gamergate.
Link to archive

On this specific part, it says this.
"Yet QAnon, Q's collective followers, remain certain that he's a prophet, their window into the secret world of the Deep State. Hoback's camera moves tranquilly among them as they explain their own theories and trace their connections to other lurid digital dramas, most notably Pizzagate (the belief that a collection of senior Democrats was sodomizing and then cannibalizing children in the basement of a Washington D.C. pizza restaurant, taken seriously enough by one Pizzagate believer that he shot the place up with a rifle) and Gamergate (a campaign of harassment against female video-game designers suspected of feminist leanings)."

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Sanakan_ht wrote:

Some stuff i may have missed in the past months, putting this here

r/KIA – There's a #Gamergate novel now, because of course there is.
Link to the book itself
-
r/KIA – [Gamedrops] Reason Magazine's Glenn Garvin Misrepresents Gamergate.
Link to archive

On this specific part, it says this.
"Yet QAnon, Q's collective followers, remain certain that he's a prophet, their window into the secret world of the Deep State. Hoback's camera moves tranquilly among them as they explain their own theories and trace their connections to other lurid digital dramas, most notably Pizzagate (the belief that a collection of senior Democrats was sodomizing and then cannibalizing children in the basement of a Washington D.C. pizza restaurant, taken seriously enough by one Pizzagate believer that he shot the place up with a rifle) and Gamergate (a campaign of harassment against female video-game designers suspected of feminist leanings)."

Which given how we've seen things go over the last few years, that means there was most likely just that or something similar going on in that pizza restaurant.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

Some stuff i may have missed in the past months, putting this here

r/KIA – There's a #Gamergate novel now, because of course there is.
Link to the book itself
-
r/KIA – [Gamedrops] Reason Magazine's Glenn Garvin Misrepresents Gamergate.
Link to archive

On this specific part, it says this.
"Yet QAnon, Q's collective followers, remain certain that he's a prophet, their window into the secret world of the Deep State. Hoback's camera moves tranquilly among them as they explain their own theories and trace their connections to other lurid digital dramas, most notably Pizzagate (the belief that a collection of senior Democrats was sodomizing and then cannibalizing children in the basement of a Washington D.C. pizza restaurant, taken seriously enough by one Pizzagate believer that he shot the place up with a rifle) and Gamergate (a campaign of harassment against female video-game designers suspected of feminist leanings)."

And how could one trace connections of satanic pedo cults of the Democrats and whatever else QAnon is to GamerGate? I will say that from what Parrot said in the tie GamerGate had to this was from shit like harassment and Milo being some plant from Banon to sway people to the right and all that, I could get that. I'm just wondering, at least from seeing only the specific part you posted, how exactly would one link QAnon theories to people like Zoe Quinn and gaming journalist?

Sanakan_ht wrote:

Some stuff i may have missed in the past months, putting this here

r/KIA – There's a #Gamergate novel now, because of course there is.
Link to the book itself
-
r/KIA – [Gamedrops] Reason Magazine's Glenn Garvin Misrepresents Gamergate.
Link to archive

On this specific part, it says this.
"Yet QAnon, Q's collective followers, remain certain that he's a prophet, their window into the secret world of the Deep State. Hoback's camera moves tranquilly among them as they explain their own theories and trace their connections to other lurid digital dramas, most notably Pizzagate (the belief that a collection of senior Democrats was sodomizing and then cannibalizing children in the basement of a Washington D.C. pizza restaurant, taken seriously enough by one Pizzagate believer that he shot the place up with a rifle) and Gamergate (a campaign of harassment against female video-game designers suspected of feminist leanings)."

I remember many of those who said "GG is awful" were many times found to be connected, maybe even friends, with those involved in the original controversy. And as I've said before, some were revealed to have done something just as bad as harassment or even worse than that. I wonder what gets revealedabout those writers.

Zoe Quinn is at it again going with the new narrative that is 'people are saying gamergate never happened' alongside with other people talking about Gamergate

This all happened because of Margaret Sullivan ignited it again and people are pointing out the double standard Margaret has done.

Apparently Gamergate invented complaining to the manager.
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Noam Blum explaining why anti-GG people keeps bringing up for no apparent reason
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I mean fuck it, here's a recap on Gamergate from Medium and News Discourse

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Sanakan_ht wrote:

Zoe Quinn is at it again going with the new narrative that is 'people are saying gamergate never happened' alongside with other people talking about Gamergate

This all happened because of Margaret Sullivan ignited it again and people are pointing out the double standard Margaret has done.

Apparently Gamergate invented complaining to the manager.
-
Noam Blum explaining why anti-GG people keeps bringing up for no apparent reason
-
I mean fuck it, here's a recap on Gamergate from Medium and News Discourse

As far as scarlet letters go and far as I remember, there wasn't much going against Quinn beyond angry neckbeards, I say that because as far as GG went, the most that did was just the whole Five Guys shit and people going "Literally Who" meme on her. One can say whether GG is good or bad or a threat or whatever but within the year 2021, I can't help feel like the asylum holding it in has managed to sink into the Earth as people, regardless of either side can keep bringing it up.



Tweet has 24k likes as of right now
Got the Deputy leader of the Green Party Mal O' Hara to join in, a northern Irish politician

Lets see:
-Anita actually never said that, even in google search
- Robert Ebert actually changed his opinion at some point, he backtracked his zero tolerance on video games
- Didnt mention the part where Anita was caught stealing footage from other youtubers
- Didnt mention that she complained about Hitman 47, again, didnt play the game
- Not to mention Bayonetta

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Sanakan_ht wrote:



Tweet has 24k likes as of right now
Got the Deputy leader of the Green Party Mal O' Hara to join in, a northern Irish politician

Lets see:
-Anita actually never said that, even in google search
- Robert Ebert actually changed his opinion at some point, he backtracked his zero tolerance on video games
- Didnt mention the part where Anita was caught stealing footage from other youtubers
- Didnt mention that she complained about Hitman 47, again, didnt play the game
- Not to mention Bayonetta

As someone who thinks there are spergs against Anita that can no doubt be annoying (I can personally attest years back on a CWC forum where a guy tried to do a lolcow thread on her, he later ended up being an Anti-SJW/anti-feminist idiot on Twitter), I can't even see myself watching her videos without feeling like there's some BS to it like with Hitman and the claims of killing women gave "bonus points" that weren't your main target.

That Twitter thread ends up being its own flavor Twitter spergs that ends up being no better than the big brained gamers they'd try to dunk on. Honestly, there's likely better youtubers and the like to do some sort of academic or big brain intellectual looks at video games, even if its looking too hard at some that aren't deep.

tl;dr As usual for stupid Twitter things:

If those five "fries" hadn't fallen for that bullshit, none of this would have happened with bullshit news, but at the same time we wouldn't have found out about corruption in journalism.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

Guardian journalist referencing Gamergate
Noam Blum tweet


Somehow Gamergate caused EA to focus on climate change, I guess.

What does that even have to do with Battlefield 2042? Yes one can say that game must be political because it makes use of the worries we have in the present moment but honestly, I can see those being "gameplay reasons" and not social commentary because the developers could just rip things from the headlines and run a scripted "get from point A to point B" scenario that at most would likely just pay lip service to IRL issues. Seriously though, what does GamerGate whether it was the ethics in games journalism side or the side that had spergs wanting to dox and threaten people they saw as SJWs have to do with this? This sort of thing is why I can't help but find "GamerGate was a bad thing" angle to be dumb. At the very least, the Parakeet (or Parrot? I'm not good with names on this site) user explained how GamerGate was bad in tactics that would remind people but here? All Hern's really doing is saying how GG let a movement win the US presidency even though Trump doesn't even need GamerGate to win when he already had boomers and the like voting for him, and all this because some game developers go "our game isn't social commentary."

^thebigguy123
Much as Milo was a plant from Bannon, I will admit that even if we didn't have Milo, you could have other elements ruining GG, whether it's some trolls managing to poison the well, other grifters trying to cash in while spewing their own BS, etc.

^Mr.Croat
We already had examples of gaming journalism having corruption back then such as Gamespot having a writer leave and everyone knew it was because he gave a game the site shilled a low score. There's also the dorito's pope where some gaming journalist had items that were literal product placement for COD or Halo (Mountain Dew and nacho cheese Doritos).

NowThis News made a video about Gamergate

TLDW version:
- They're still acting like it's 2014
- Apparently Gamergate harassed Kelly Marie Tran and John Boyega. They did not mention how China handled John and Kelly.
- Zoe Quinn
- Brianna Wu appearance, the usual "pushing for government to do something"
- Kat Tenbarge appearance, pretty much hated for specific reasons

Sanakan_ht wrote:

NowThis News made a video about Gamergate

TLDW version:
- They're still acting like it's 2014
- Apparently Gamergate harassed Kelly Marie Tran and John Boyega. They did not mention how China handled John and Kelly.
- Zoe Quinn
- Brianna Wu appearance, the usual "pushing for government to do something"
- Kat Tenbarge appearance, pretty much hated for specific reasons

The only link I could imagine one would try to tie Boyega and Tran's harassment is something like "similar methods from GamerGate." Then again, shit Tran got and the like could no doubt be the sort of thing that existed before GamerGate was even thing.

Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz) going mentioning Gamergate
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Noah Smith (@Noaphinion) going on mentioning Gamergate
Apparently everything was good before 2014 until Gamergate happened, i guess.

3 checkmarks in a week blaming Gamergate for something entirely unrelated stretchy reasons.
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A woman is reviewing the Crash Overdrive (Zoe Quinn book), and marking down things that are contradictory, made up, red flags etc. She has only gone to 3 chapters already after marking 20+ places in the book.

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I remember in that book she subtly accused MundaneMatt of encouraging harassment on her back in the day. He responded to that and completely debunked when it first came out years ago by playing audio from one of his videos. That was before his career went to crap.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

NowThis News made a video about Gamergate

TLDW version:
- They're still acting like it's 2014
- Apparently Gamergate harassed Kelly Marie Tran and John Boyega. They did not mention how China handled John and Kelly.
- Zoe Quinn
- Brianna Wu appearance, the usual "pushing for government to do something"
- Kat Tenbarge appearance, pretty much hated for specific reasons

There's another with everyone's favorite lolcow Brianna Wu comparing QAnon to GamerGate.

I just wanted to drop by and say that it really pisses me off how the wokers have won the Anti-GG propaganda war

Everywere you search about GamerGate you get immediately swarmed by articles parroting the same shit Anti-GG asshats say including the "they got Trump elected" nonsense (among other also stupid shit) This site right here is literally the only place with accurate info and that very sad it really is

Square Memester wrote:

There's another with everyone's favorite lolcow Brianna Wu comparing QAnon to GamerGate.

Wu should remember that GG won in the end. The only thing they have left is propaganda and mental illness.

So to compare GG to Q… well…

Griff the Hoplite wrote:

I just wanted to drop by and say that it really pisses me off how the wokers have won the Anti-GG propaganda war

Everywere you search about GamerGate you get immediately swarmed by articles parroting the same shit Anti-GG asshats say including the "they got Trump elected" nonsense (among other also stupid shit) This site right here is literally the only place with accurate info and that very sad it really is

That's understandable, but it's basically been one-sided from day one.

Griff the Hoplite wrote:

I just wanted to drop by and say that it really pisses me off how the wokers have won the Anti-GG propaganda war

Everywere you search about GamerGate you get immediately swarmed by articles parroting the same shit Anti-GG asshats say including the "they got Trump elected" nonsense (among other also stupid shit) This site right here is literally the only place with accurate info and that very sad it really is

The minute Bannon took over, it was done for. Seriously, he and his gang are a bunch of Nazi propaganda-pushing asssholes who did more to harm Gamergate than others did, and I don't even support it.

His agenda was a defense of bigotry and paranoia. He called for the decapitation of Fauci for crying out loud.

Griff the Hoplite wrote:

I just wanted to drop by and say that it really pisses me off how the wokers have won the Anti-GG propaganda war

Everywere you search about GamerGate you get immediately swarmed by articles parroting the same shit Anti-GG asshats say including the "they got Trump elected" nonsense (among other also stupid shit) This site right here is literally the only place with accurate info and that very sad it really is

What makes you think they won? Nobody really likes them.
The woke side is despised not just by people involved in GG, but by most of the population.
They are the same loud minority they were in 2014.
Sites such as Buzzfeed and Kotaku are still bleeding economically.
This is a long path, but in the end they can't win. Because their ideology is a failure, and their methods are simply reprehensible.
That's what sparked GamerGate to begin with. People began to notice something was off.

thebigguy123 wrote:

The minute Bannon took over, it was done for. Seriously, he and his gang are a bunch of Nazi propaganda-pushing asssholes who did more to harm Gamergate than others did, and I don't even support it.

His agenda was a defense of bigotry and paranoia. He called for the decapitation of Fauci for crying out loud.

In all honesty, with or without Bannon and Milo, there'd be other ways for GG to get harmed in the optics war. Regardless of who did the most damage, you already had it being framed as "misogynistic nerds hounding after female game developer" with Zoe Quinn and "misogynistic nerds trying to silence female game critic" with Anita Sarkeesian. Bannon and Milo would simply be one of the other ticks you can add to that, whatever the size of their impact is.

Brianna Wu, on Gamergate again
Big Tech Pledges To Do Better Battling Internet Violence Against Women. History Suggests They’ll Come Up Short.
"Seven years after GamerGate, Facebook, Google, Twitter and TikTok have collectively pledged to put an end to what an open letter called a “pandemic of online abuse against women and girls.” The pledge followed the World Wide Web Foundation’s publication of the letter, which was signed by over 200 influential women including politicians and celebrities, and came during the UN Women’s Generation Equality Forum in Paris."

"Brianna Wu isn’t holding her breath. “If you’re not committing to measuring outcomes, I don’t think you’re serious,” the video game developer tells Forbes. Wu was a prominent target of Gamergate, the notorious campaign of organized online violence aimed at women in the video game industry that put gender-based Internet abuse in the public eye. In 2014, anonymous users posted personal information about Wu, including her address, on an 8chan messageboard. Multiple death and rape threats, among other forms of harassment including horrific images sent through email, forced Wu to flee her home. "

"Internet violence" is a thing, I guess

Do I even need a reminder that Wu has a history of faking harassments?
How many times do people need to realize that having Wu is not a creditable source?

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Sanakan_ht wrote:

Brianna Wu, on Gamergate again
Big Tech Pledges To Do Better Battling Internet Violence Against Women. History Suggests They’ll Come Up Short.
"Seven years after GamerGate, Facebook, Google, Twitter and TikTok have collectively pledged to put an end to what an open letter called a “pandemic of online abuse against women and girls.” The pledge followed the World Wide Web Foundation’s publication of the letter, which was signed by over 200 influential women including politicians and celebrities, and came during the UN Women’s Generation Equality Forum in Paris."

"Brianna Wu isn’t holding her breath. “If you’re not committing to measuring outcomes, I don’t think you’re serious,” the video game developer tells Forbes. Wu was a prominent target of Gamergate, the notorious campaign of organized online violence aimed at women in the video game industry that put gender-based Internet abuse in the public eye. In 2014, anonymous users posted personal information about Wu, including her address, on an 8chan messageboard. Multiple death and rape threats, among other forms of harassment including horrific images sent through email, forced Wu to flee her home. "

"Internet violence" is a thing, I guess

Do I even need a reminder that Wu has a history of faking harassments?
How many times do people need to realize that having Wu is not a creditable source?

I think making them realize Wu is actually a criminal has turned into a lost cause now.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

Brianna Wu, on Gamergate again
Big Tech Pledges To Do Better Battling Internet Violence Against Women. History Suggests They’ll Come Up Short.
"Seven years after GamerGate, Facebook, Google, Twitter and TikTok have collectively pledged to put an end to what an open letter called a “pandemic of online abuse against women and girls.” The pledge followed the World Wide Web Foundation’s publication of the letter, which was signed by over 200 influential women including politicians and celebrities, and came during the UN Women’s Generation Equality Forum in Paris."

"Brianna Wu isn’t holding her breath. “If you’re not committing to measuring outcomes, I don’t think you’re serious,” the video game developer tells Forbes. Wu was a prominent target of Gamergate, the notorious campaign of organized online violence aimed at women in the video game industry that put gender-based Internet abuse in the public eye. In 2014, anonymous users posted personal information about Wu, including her address, on an 8chan messageboard. Multiple death and rape threats, among other forms of harassment including horrific images sent through email, forced Wu to flee her home. "

"Internet violence" is a thing, I guess

Do I even need a reminder that Wu has a history of faking harassments?
How many times do people need to realize that having Wu is not a creditable source?

I think making them realize Wu is actually a criminal has turned into a lost cause now.

So fun update in my absence.

Project Veritas has released and interview with a suspended Hasbro Employee who released training videos of CRT claiming that racisim develops in children as soon as 3 months old and exhibit racial preferences at age 2, becoming full fledged racists at age 5.

Basically the whistleblower shares his opinion on the matter and shows where the training is coming from, what the alarming concepts are and what the push is upon the employees working for Hasbro as a whole.

Why does this matter to Gamergate?

Hasbro controls a good portion of the geek and gaming areas as well as toys that reach many demographics and children. And they overlap with some old popular KYM trends. Specifically: MLP, MtG and DnD.

So Ethics in Games Production.

Last edited Jul 20, 2021 at 08:47PM EDT
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