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Last posted Jul 21, 2021 at 02:24PM EDT. Added Jul 26, 2015 at 06:48PM EDT
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Dracorex wrote:

Accidentally downvoted because KYM on mobile is awful.

Computing Forever is one I knwo of.

You know. Looking at recent developments got me thinking. These people are suggesting to do exactly what they feared we would allegedly do.

Kinda messed up, if you ask me.

Trump gets the US presidency and these people say they will get hunted down, they will be censored, and they will be rounded up. In four years never happened.

A democrat allegedly wins an rather shady election with several irregularities and these people start calling for the literal execution of their political oponents.

And then they wonder why nobody likes them, and why Trump won to begin with. They are basically schemeing sociopaths who think everyone is just as twisted as they are by projection.

Well. Too bad we're actually the better person. As RGE repeatedly mentions. That made us vulnerable to enemies who won't hesitate on actually ending lives.

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AlarkozTheAncient wrote:

Computing Forever is one I knwo of.

You know. Looking at recent developments got me thinking. These people are suggesting to do exactly what they feared we would allegedly do.

Kinda messed up, if you ask me.

Trump gets the US presidency and these people say they will get hunted down, they will be censored, and they will be rounded up. In four years never happened.

A democrat allegedly wins an rather shady election with several irregularities and these people start calling for the literal execution of their political oponents.

And then they wonder why nobody likes them, and why Trump won to begin with. They are basically schemeing sociopaths who think everyone is just as twisted as they are by projection.

Well. Too bad we're actually the better person. As RGE repeatedly mentions. That made us vulnerable to enemies who won't hesitate on actually ending lives.

A democrat allegedly wins an rather shady election with several irregularities
Donald went 0 out of 42 lawsuits since election day, and could never present evidence to the court.
Joe Biden won fair and square and that's why he was inaugurated.
Continuously spouting baseless lies about the election is not being a better person, neither is pretending there's some secret cabal out for peoples lives.

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Sanakan_ht wrote:

Really something to see both of you just talking politics. Politics is this way thank you
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Anyways Jordan Uhl on Gamergate: ''i vaguely remember seeing a take where someone tried to connect gamergate to the capitol riot but if not it surely must exist already and frankly I think that's beautiful''

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Lyde15 tweet

I wouldn't say they were arguing politics
More like denying reality

Computing Forever still has a Bitchute channel and I think he has a channel on Rumble now too. If you ask him nicely he'll probably re-upload any videos he made about gamergate there (if he hasn't already.)
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/hybM74uIHJKf/

@Steve
He can go somewhere else like Politics General, create a new thread, or go to KYMcord. I don't care, i just want both of you to stop derailing this thread.
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So back to CD Projekt Red currently in a dumpster fire, they have been hit with a second class action lawsuit due to the mass amount of bugs.

And there are claims that the demo being fake I don't exactly know what's the demo exactly, but i know that they're doing it similarly like Anthem and Watchdogs did back in the day.

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Sanakan_ht wrote:

@Steve
He can go somewhere else like Politics General, create a new thread, or go to KYMcord. I don't care, i just want both of you to stop derailing this thread.
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So back to CD Projekt Red currently in a dumpster fire, they have been hit with a second class action lawsuit due to the mass amount of bugs.

And there are claims that the demo being fake I don't exactly know what's the demo exactly, but i know that they're doing it similarly like Anthem and Watchdogs did back in the day.

this lawsuit has nothing to do with gamergate though? I think you just dont like the fact i called him out on his bs.
Also you arent a mod, stop acting like one?

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Steve wrote:

this lawsuit has nothing to do with gamergate though? I think you just dont like the fact i called him out on his bs.
Also you arent a mod, stop acting like one?

1. I'm more on trying a new way that is just 'gaming drama' kind of stuff instead of just exclusively Gamergate like for example "Hey this guy mentions GamerGate" or _"Apparently Gamergate causes _______". i'm just trying something new. Seeing the reaction I guess this thread will stay the same as before, therefore i apologize.

2. I'm only saying that because you're doing it publicly. Alarkoz can go fuck himself with conspiracies he got from Qanon/Parler/Gab/whatever, that election denial is what lead to the Capitol raid and people died there. And it's already being reported btw.

If im not allowed to mini-mod then it's probably my fault then.

3. This thread is not Featured anymore due to not being active or people putting pointless comments, so this thread is at risk getting locked if it derails further or getting auto-locked.
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Staying on topic, USAtoday on Gamergate, using a quote from Steve Bannon and another Gamergate take

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I agree we shouldn't really be discussing politics, unless there's some explicit mention of GG. Gaming drama isn't so bad, especially if it affects people's ability to talk about it.

Also, I searched "Computing Forever" on YT and his channel is there now, along with his alternative channel.

RandomMan wrote:

With the comment section often misused, please use this thread as a social hub or to share simple info on anything GG related.

Please remain on topic.

If you wish to discuss entry additions instead, please make use of the other thread.


Super Loli Edit:

Don't double post unless you rant out of time to edit your post and you want to quote someone's post.

To quote a post use the following code: "bq. (quoted text)".

And this is how it looks.

Again, double posting is not allowed unless you rant out of time and you can't edit your post or if you hit the character limit you're allowed to split your message in two posts.


With this primary post re-quoted to show that what needs to be talked about here is #Gamergate involved or related…

Let's see what the latest redefinition is according to DCD

Looks like #Gamergate is now "a precursor for the forever culture war we're locked in today, in which a fervent white male-dominated collective are able to weave complex narratives to explain how they are the real victim"

So now Gamergate is White-Male Victim Claiming?

This appears to be projection given how many have used the term to claim the opposite and be proven false on several accounts. Feminist Frequency, Crash Override Network, BullyHunters, and the recent Queens seem to be good examples of the contrary to this new narrative.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

1. I'm more on trying a new way that is just 'gaming drama' kind of stuff instead of just exclusively Gamergate like for example "Hey this guy mentions GamerGate" or _"Apparently Gamergate causes _______". i'm just trying something new. Seeing the reaction I guess this thread will stay the same as before, therefore i apologize.

2. I'm only saying that because you're doing it publicly. Alarkoz can go fuck himself with conspiracies he got from Qanon/Parler/Gab/whatever, that election denial is what lead to the Capitol raid and people died there. And it's already being reported btw.

If im not allowed to mini-mod then it's probably my fault then.

3. This thread is not Featured anymore due to not being active or people putting pointless comments, so this thread is at risk getting locked if it derails further or getting auto-locked.
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Staying on topic, USAtoday on Gamergate, using a quote from Steve Bannon and another Gamergate take

Outside of Alarkoz, who else is even going into election denial? At least from post, I can see at least one or two people aren't agreeing with Alarkoz on the election being stolen or a sham.

As for the CDPR stuff, I can imagine this could tie into GamerGate at least in being for ethics or something but then again, that would need gaming journalism to be directly tied to CDPR in the hype, disappointment, and unfulfilled promises and expectations of CP2077.

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I'm amazed that these people are still lying about Gamergate six years later. One might imagine that somebody would think they don't have to carry water for this bullshit anymore, but they're still going.

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Sanakan_ht wrote:

Apparently Cancel Culture and holding fake Trump's decapitated head is somehow Gamergate's fault. Totally not because Twitter normalized it in the past 4 years.

Kathy Griffin : Hey techie, smarty pants followers of mine! Do you think what happened with my trump photo scandal being such an international overblown outrage could have been because of this ''GamerGate'' thing I’m just learning about? đŸ¤”đŸ¤”đŸ¤”

Brianna Wu : Yup. Same people, same playbook. They used it on us, Steve Bannon weaponized it for the right wing.They used it to get @samseder temporarily fired. And @JamesGunn from Got. Then on you. It’s a cynical tactic.

>it's a "all GG are Republicans" episode

I really wish Brianna would stop pretending Democrat GGers like me don't exist

Dracorex wrote:

>it's a "all GG are Republicans" episode

I really wish Brianna would stop pretending Democrat GGers like me don't exist

No aGGro can stop pretending about who's actually "in" GamerGate because it would directly destroy basically every narrative they have surrounding it.

Also, wew, Griffin is still assmad that she got blacklisted?

WarriorTang wrote:

I'm amazed that these people are still lying about Gamergate six years later. One might imagine that somebody would think they don't have to carry water for this bullshit anymore, but they're still going.

I mentioned it before. It was one of the first times the average citizen spoke up, and with enough loud to shake the politicians, corporations, and groups which tried to impose themselves upon everyone.

It was an act of defiance from the people to the social engineers. And that made them angry enough to lead to them not forgetting, and to them distorting what really happened.

What really happened was gamers noticed something was off with journalists, and from there they connected the dots to corrupt people injecting money to influence customers.

It wasn't precisely a massive world changing conspiracy as much as political corruption damaging gamers too. Said political corruption had been ongoing, and tied to all forms of media. But gamers were the first consumers to react.

In the past you had creators reacting though. Mell Brooks was known for mocking censorship in the past.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

Apparently Cancel Culture and holding fake Trump's decapitated head is somehow Gamergate's fault. Totally not because Twitter normalized it in the past 4 years.

Kathy Griffin : Hey techie, smarty pants followers of mine! Do you think what happened with my trump photo scandal being such an international overblown outrage could have been because of this ''GamerGate'' thing I’m just learning about? đŸ¤”đŸ¤”đŸ¤”

Brianna Wu : Yup. Same people, same playbook. They used it on us, Steve Bannon weaponized it for the right wing.They used it to get @samseder temporarily fired. And @JamesGunn from Got. Then on you. It’s a cynical tactic.

Remembering back on that one thread about the Capitol Hill riot and how GG was tied to it by more of the methods like masquerading racism as jokes and sending threats, I can't even see that being fully applicable on Kathy Griffin. Her joke was pretty much something that would trigger Trump followers but it would also look tasteless to some people. I don't like Trump especially with how he handled things but even looking back her joke is one that looked tasteless.

As for James Gunn, wasn't his firing more or less from people clutching onto old tweets he made that he would distance himself from? The playbook for Griffin and Gunn was pretty much just Griffin's joke being one that was edgy in holding a fake Trump head and it would at most look tasteless to some and at worst rile a ton of his followers while for Gunn it's clutching onto old tweets like they could still have some weight when Gunn would at some point change. Can't say for Sam Seder since I don't know much about that person.

WarriorTang wrote:

I'm amazed that these people are still lying about Gamergate six years later. One might imagine that somebody would think they don't have to carry water for this bullshit anymore, but they're still going.

At the very least, I can imagine the only one to be affected somehow that isn't grifting or making articles or whatever over it is whoever would bear some sort of brunt. The only one that may even have that is Frederick Brennan aka Hot Wheels since he did make 8Chan and aside from the \pol\ shootings, GG did have a considerable influence there with its own boards (even though Frederick lost control of the site to another guy and hasn't been a part of it sicne 2016)though considering the following tweet
https://twitter.com/fr_brennan/status/1353984574716522498?s=20
I can only imagine the brut he deals with is just dealing with being on some block list from years ago. I don't know who would even think of his name being tied to GG aside from some figure like Briana Wu back then.

SicklyVivian wrote:

At the very least, I can imagine the only one to be affected somehow that isn't grifting or making articles or whatever over it is whoever would bear some sort of brunt. The only one that may even have that is Frederick Brennan aka Hot Wheels since he did make 8Chan and aside from the \pol\ shootings, GG did have a considerable influence there with its own boards (even though Frederick lost control of the site to another guy and hasn't been a part of it sicne 2016)though considering the following tweet
https://twitter.com/fr_brennan/status/1353984574716522498?s=20
I can only imagine the brut he deals with is just dealing with being on some block list from years ago. I don't know who would even think of his name being tied to GG aside from some figure like Briana Wu back then.

Something tells me the accusations of 8chan being tied to illegal content affect Brennan a lot more than GG would ever do.
I mean. He was considered guilty by association in the kind of activity most people consider worse than murder. That is not precisely good for any business.

AlarkozTheAncient wrote:

Something tells me the accusations of 8chan being tied to illegal content affect Brennan a lot more than GG would ever do.
I mean. He was considered guilty by association in the kind of activity most people consider worse than murder. That is not precisely good for any business.

No doubt since 8Chan itself was more than just its \pol\ board and GamerGate and the boards under its name. That said though, since GamerGate did have a huge presence on 8Chan, whatever it had whatever there was that related to it, it would affect Brennan regardless. TL;DR, Brennan would get hit regardless. That said though, he's no doubt moved on from it all save for when he speaks about Jim Watkins, the guy who took over 8Chan, though from what I seen it's more of just tying Jim to Q-Anon in how Jim gave it some sort of platform or presence though I'll admit, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some bad blood since Jim did take the site from Brennan and even though Brennan has distanced himself from 8Chan, it was his creation and it was taken from him.

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Even though Zoe Quinn and the like aren't saints, this article kinda has a point – they may have faked some of the harassment, but part of it, from what I know, is definitely real, and alt-right people like Steve Bannon and Milo Yiannopoulos used the outrage towards Zoe Quinn's defenders to their advantage with near impunity, because both sides needed to be heard according to the media. They grew in power and influence, and Bannon joined Trump's team afterwards.

It's a surprisingly significant development in online culture, actually. Vast harassment campaigns, outrage towards people being weaponized by far-right unsavory types to push anti-progressive ideas… It all came from here.

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thebigguy123 wrote:

Even though Zoe Quinn and the like aren't saints, this article kinda has a point – they may have faked some of the harassment, but part of it, from what I know, is definitely real, and alt-right people like Steve Bannon and Milo Yiannopoulos used the outrage towards Zoe Quinn's defenders to their advantage with near impunity, because both sides needed to be heard according to the media. They grew in power and influence, and Bannon joined Trump's team afterwards.

It's a surprisingly significant development in online culture, actually. Vast harassment campaigns, outrage towards people being weaponized by far-right unsavory types to push anti-progressive ideas… It all came from here.

That is something to note. Bannon did say something about using Milo to sway people and Milo would no doubt gain some influence from GamerGate even though it would no doubt be pissed away by various antics he did. IIRC one of the biggest examples being some scholarship that amounted to nothing. Can't say much else for Bannon though a quick check from Wikipedia shows that he did get disavowed by Trump for critical comments in a book about Trump's administration.

That said, I disagree on saying all of this stuff came from GamerGate. All the pushes and the like is more of it being pushed in general by social media and whatever allowed these types a place to spew their ideas. Places like Youtube, Reddit, and the like, not just some chanboard. GamerGate, if not 8Chan itself especially with how people could make their own boards that could be echo-chambers, would just one of the many places for this to take place.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

Im mainly going to question why Dominic Tarason going off about GG in Reddit (probably r/KIA) keeping a list of games that are EGS exclusive.

Like i'm sure people were mad that some popular games ended up being in EGS exclusive? Kingdom Hearts recently got a PC version but it's on Epic Games Store exclusively.

I wouldn't doubt there being people that are mad or disappointed though for myself, I was just surprised Kingdom Hearts gets a PC release. Then again, pointing out others wouldn't help for Tarason saying how it's only some gamergate reddit thread caring about. That said, Tarason is a person that makes me want to say "literally, who?" If he/she is someone that tries to paint anyone criticizing EGS, fairly or unfairly, then I could disregard their tweet even further.

On a lighter note, Jezebel posted a dumb article complaining about Chun-Li not being in the trailer for the Mortal Kombat movie. You may have heard about this news and you can probably tell why such an article would get roasted. The article itself was probably meant for clicks in my opinion.

@Sanahan_ht
I am not surprised Anita would act like that when accused of harassment. People like her tend to act like they either can't do any wrong, or they just move the goalposts in this case. I'm sure there are some fans of hers who have done some means things online. No group is fully innocent from that.

Kotaku releases a tweet noting how some lead designer for the upcoming Harry Potter game made anti-SJW videos.
https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1363543774106849281

Far as said videos go, never watched them, read the Kotaku article, and the last video uploaded was two years ago. All that said, I can't help but have the feeling that a controversy over this will be stupid as all hell because I can't see how one guy who could be a GG sperg somehow means there is some rot that set in and this game is tainted. I don't care much for the Harry Potter game but I do wonder why I should care about some developer having such views since much as one can say he may spread them, I can also imagine his coworkers aren't gonna put up with his takes, SJW or anti-SJW.

@Lenny Guy
The Jezebel article was pure grandpa energy but what I had to like was some people trying to say it was totally bait and that "gamers tm" fell for it. I won't doubt you could get someone being spergy in response to the article but I also can't help but feel some people regardless of sides will make this sound like it was some sort of "epic own" on a group they didn't like just because the author had a moment of being like a grandpa who'd call a PS1 a "Nintendo."

One thing I forgot to mention, especially since the cut off time means I can't edit:
The Kotaku article mentioned the lead designer defending some Disney executive he worked under when said exec got in trouble for sexual harassment. I don't know if it's a tweet or a video but it's somewhere out there. Now let me get this out of the way: I'm just going by what Kotaku said and I'm not one to watch any more culture war SJW/Anti-SJW spergings beyond just looking at what goes on in this thread and whatever my fellows on Twitter get themselves into but the "sexual harassment" part only get's about 2-3 sentences. Everything else focused on GamerGate/Anita/Anti-SJW channel content.

To me that just screams skewed priorities because so what if this man was some pro-GG turbosperg? That is nothing compared to sexual harassment but eh, I guess one has to make the GG stuff sound like it's even worse. I could get that if we somehow tied this to the Capitol Hill Raid, but I'd need more than "ethics in vidya journalism" and "REEEE SJW's" to see a link like how about show any post of this lead dev going on how what happened at Capitol Hill was justified or being sympathetic to it? That's more damning than some video going on Anita or GG or whatever.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

The whole Troy controversy is still going, and now the media sites like gameindustry.biz went on to encourage cancel culture with a description like that

To the point that industry people are encouraging it too

And Anita is hopping in this too

This is why I keep telling people this is bigger than it looks. We haven't been dealing with a small corruption issue, or an ideological disagreement. We are dealing with an actual inquisition with priests and all.
Anita Sarkeesian was expected to get involved. After all, his crime was questioning her.
He actively exposed her lies and brought many of her dubious acts to question. That, to people who support her, and herself, is a cardinal sin. And the inquisition knows how to deal with sinners.
These people won't stop until they have censored all those who question them and all the things they don't like. That's why free speech issues are related to the GamerGate case.
Because these groups seek to censor. And they use corruption in journalism as a tool for that purpose.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

After days has passed Troy Leavitt has made its own decision and leave the team

He was not fired or cancelled as he said. Leaving the team was his own decision.

He also said that he'll make a video about it in the coming days

So. He took one for the team because they were harassed by bullies because of him? Yeah. I have been there.
This is why I say these people won't stop harassing innocent people unless they get stopped.
All he did was proving Sarkessian wrong. And that's why they harass him.
Well. Now he's associated with Harry Potter too. Which is a target by them now because Rowling said some politically loaded things last year which they didn't like.
This is why I, as a creator, as a human being, and as a decent citizen, despise them.

Video out

Summary:
Troy Leavitt addresses his departure from Avalanche, says that it's a "re-retirement" and was planned before the controversy due to serious family issues. He blasts the media for its adherence to propaganda over journalism.

Lenny Guy wrote:

This is probably a less serious issue, but still relevant to helping the consumer and a gaming blogger being dishonest. The video lays things out well I believe.

Fuck the Pokemon Go eggs, I still don't have a Galarian Darumaka.

The Serfs are intended to make a documentary about Gamergate, mainly such as TheQuartering and Sargon started the alt right
Idk if they noticed that the Alt-right existed before GG started, and people such as thunderf00t and Mekotur hated "SJWs" before the GG hashtag happened.

Inb4 they're gonna start off as "there was no review" and not even bothering to check the Gamergate entry we have in this site.
Expect sone half truths that they're gonna make.

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I recall Internet Aristocrat/MisterMetokur mentioned unethical behaviors back in 2014 when he was on YouTube. For instance, he mentioned how Patricia Hernandez wrote an article about a friend's game without disclosing their friendship. Obviously, that's considered unethical in journalism. Jim's videos are what immediately preceded the hashtag being made btw.

The one reply to the Serf's tweet is typical. It reminds of those comments by the Peter Bright guy (remember him?), which makes me wonder if they've done something horrible. I hope I'm wrong because I don't want to know more people are harmed, but every time I see these comments, I just get a feeling that the person making them is actually awful themself. That's all I have to say for now.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

The Serfs are intended to make a documentary about Gamergate, mainly such as TheQuartering and Sargon started the alt right
Idk if they noticed that the Alt-right existed before GG started, and people such as thunderf00t and Mekotur hated "SJWs" before the GG hashtag happened.

Inb4 they're gonna start off as "there was no review" and not even bothering to check the Gamergate entry we have in this site.
Expect sone half truths that they're gonna make.

I wouldn't doubt the alt-right started before GG began what with, according to Wikipedia, Richard Spencer making the term and \pol\ shortening it. Can't say for thunderf00t but I remember back when Metokur went by the name of Internet Aristocrat, he thought GG would be some attempt at ending SJW's once and for all. As for TheQuartering, I thought he'd come in months or years later because I only know him for two things according to trolling site/cesspool: complaining about some lady in Magic The Gathering and complaining about the new She-Ra. Alt-Right in terms of being started or at least better known in the public consciousness would be more from other youtubers at the time like Matt Jarbo (MundaneMatt) and The Ralph Retort and Stefan Molyneux though granted, I never saw their stuff because none of their rants on SJWs or feminism interested me, and I was more or less the kind that would have a sort of "anti-SJW' phase on a cirlejerk place like Kiwi Farms.

I can only imagine that depending on all the responses they get and how they act to them, they could go for one side or the other rather than gather all evidence and findings such as this site for being without any biases and just roll with it in being for just one side such as thinking the whole thing from the start had to sway people to the alt-right from day 1 rather than day whatever when Milo was used by Bannon to sway people or unironically going with all the post from KiA or whatever other circlejerk there is on the pro side.

To help keep this thread alive, I think it's worthy to bring up what's happening with Six Days in Fallujah. This won't be an in-depth discussion, but I got some.

Essentially, calls for its cancellation are coming from game developers and journalists, the same group who once criticized the game's original cancellation back in 2009. And in this case, many have noticed that it's reminiscent of Jack Thompson's unfounded vitriol against violent video games – they claim it "glorifies the murder of Iraqis" and "will breed a new race of mass shooters", arguments that would certainly make the disbarred attorney proud. All this is despite the fact that nobody making these criticisms has actually played the game yet, because it's not actually out.

It's certainly a rabbit hole to go down, and people in favor of the US government and the UN banning this game for what amounts to an unfounded moral panic are often familiar faces, such as the current host of Extra Credits.

Here's a good article, at least to start with.

The part about breeding mass shooters is especially dumb. We'll have to wait to see if it tries to be nuanced or not, assuming if it actually can get released. However, I thought it was a different group that got the game cancelled.

Also about the Extra Credits part, this channel made that dumb video about games with playable Nazis is somehow normalizing them and will pretty much make players think that they're not so bad.

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