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Whelp Anita Sarkeesian, destroyer of franchises (and of #Gamergate fame) is calling out Max Temkin (a designer for cards against humanity) for the toxicity of the company and other charges. It appears that due to lack of coverage, she's submitting it to the court of public opinion for another form of cancelation.

The example given is an employee who quit the company for having an "overly hostile" response in the office chat thread to a suggestion, and complained about how some past campaigns revolving around race were "problematic."

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He's also been accused of some crime back in 2014 that Anita brought back up in 2019.

The verdict for some of these aligations against Max appears not to have been passed in a court of law, so there's no knowing if he's legally guilty for these accusations.

TL:DR; Anita may be trying to cancel Max and CAH for the sake of doing the "right thing"

Revelancy: Anita has published an article that has consequences for the card game community. Therefore its a case of ethics in games journalism.

Just to add something the Anita stuff.

And then she wonders why people don't like her. She's a grifter, a parasite too.

After seeing that horrid Abby sex scene from TLOU2 i just realized that this is the hill that Sony is going to die on, and it's going to be part of Sony's censorship history.

Gave it a pass when it comes to western games, even full blown 3D sex scenes which doesn't even look satisfying at all. But go apeshit when some 2D anime girls show a bit of skin finds it a bit too much.

I await game journalists to defend this game like they did to the DmC reboot months after that.

Edit: Sony just censored another Japanese game just today

Man. I just heard some rumors on it and honestly that would be a deal breaker for me regardless of context.

Not only it proves the hypocrisy of everyone involved. It is also allegedly quite unpleasant regardless of the age of the participants. At least Life's Tumblr didn't make it as grotesque.

Brianna Wu is going for it again, now saying that Gamergate is the 'baby Hitler' – the moment where 'our entire political system is poisoned'

Just more conspiracy-humping nonsense from a generally irrelevant person. The tweets are filled with butthurt over their ideas being less popular than those of the people she hates. People have tried to silence GG voices, with little success, sometimes resulting in backfire.

Plus, Wu has a thing for lying and saying many ridiculous, unbacked claims over the years. I recall a Reddit mod saying KiA doesn't harass anyone, many years ago, which was why the subreddit never got banned. I find people like them far more trustworthy than a woman who claimed there was a video of a "furious gamergater" expected to "go viral", yet never surfaced.

It's fun to say she's a troll, but I think she is actually being serious. I think she may also have something wrong in her head.

Links to follow later, but due to The Last Of Us Part 2 debacle. Namely its leaks, release, review embargo and now spoiler fallout. Those that are now vocal over the games content are getting metoo'd and excommunicated from the social media platforms.

Angry Joe, after broadcasting his opinion has been #metoo'ed for making a female game developer uncomfortable a year and a half ago.

Block and blacklists are being formed against reviewers that didn't shower praise on the games.

Basically a lot of unethical actions are being taken as a result of journalism for video gaming. Namely, exposing the false coverage or even exposing a crack of it, causes immediate and sudden reprimanded from the subject matter.

So update into more of the insanity: The voice actor for a character not liked in the last of us part 2 has received death-threats, somehow 5 years after it was declared dead, #gamergate still manages to be responsible by publication.

Additionally, this 4th of July Fortnite tried to inject political news feeds onto the Fortnite maps, akin the free concert and star wars events from earlier…
and the player base responded by throwing virtual tomatoes at the virtual billboards broadcasting messages of Race in America.

What's interesting about this is now games can be used as a way to peddle journalism to gamers now. An inverse of ethics in games journalism is now
ethics of journalism in games.

This is getting tiresome. Also I heard about the case of the VA right after hearing of the EVO Online incident and all I can say is both cases are disgusting.

In one case a person who deserves no hostility gets attacked because "guilty by association" and the other case is the habitual "reset the counters" situation.

I'm guessing you are referring to Laura Bailey? I never knew her to be controversial or some kind of highly-political person. If TLOU 2 sucks, it's not due to someone like her. It's also interesting they keep bringing up GG despite calling it irrelevant years ago. These people will do the same if Trump gets reelected.

The EVO thing with Joey Cueller being fired doesn't have much to do with GG on the surface. However it is another case of a so-called male feminist being outed as a pedo…again. This was the dude responsible for that "core values" crap about a year ago where a fictional character being sexualized was a truly important concern. Apparently he did some super disgusting things to a boy back in the 90's. I guess in that instance this does feel GG-related what with the censorship and pedo-outing.

>_The voice actor for a character not liked in the last of us part 2 has received death-threats_

And surprise, surprise, it came from a fan of the game who got triggered.

It connects quite a lot to the censorship issue. Many Japanese fighting games got censored because of EVO. Of course a guy who censors drawn breasts turned out to crave preoubescent males.

Lots of Gamergate associations here.

Whelp we're approaching year 6 of this hashtag. Happy 6 year anniversary of event that began this wildfire: the Zoe Post. Keep reporting on gaming ethics and the invoked #gamergate. It is an election year so it's only a matter of time before the corpse gets re-animated again.

Even as many people moved on from GamerGate, someone still has to bring it up. How the hell does this even tie to GamerGate? No really. I could see an example if you just had a bunch of people screech at some video game but to some people this some how ties to a hashtag over what was essentially about video games and video games journalism. Yeah it's not like the assassin was doing it for some other reason related to politics or the law, it has to tie to GamerGate.

Remember: GamerGate is dead, but it totally got Trump elected president.

I'll never forget some people saying that.

People unironically believing that makes me wonder how that logic even works. As someone that used to be pro-GG, me not going to Kotaku was not on the same level as going to a site like MSNBC and the like. Then again, I won't be surprised if those saying it are putting it in an article or headline. Gotta make some clickbait or something to pay the bills I guess.

Brianna Wu is at it again this time its related to Steve Bannon and her broken window and thinks it's related to Gamergate even though back then she doesn't know who exactly is but some kids messing around.

Kia link on how #gamergate is somehow responsible for a recent murder/suicide . And research shows it's conjecture at best with no evidence. Its only gamergate because the author assumes the perpetrator is part of the movement as a copycat.

6 years in and Kotaku just has to bring up #gamergate

I thought we were finally out of this but nope! Now instead of Gamergate bring Alt Left Bernie bros who threw the vote for the alt right… It's now rebranded as FAR RIGHT.

So a new slight rebranding of the events to promote an agenda over the perception of the upcoming CoD: Cold War.

Ethics in games journalism shambles again.

With CoD: Cold War, I can only wonder how that'll promote an agenda. I get it uses America vs. USSR and had a speech from Berezmov but beyond those, I sincerely doubt it's gonna be some sort of full-on propaganda piece that'll sway people to left or right.

Remember, these people defended all kinds of left-leaning political stuff, but are complaining about something that looks right-leaning. It is as if they only political stuff of a certain kind and can't stand the presence of other things. And they call us "entitled".

However, I can see where they go with the connection since some pro-GG people and others who seem right-leaning have referenced the clip. Still, it's more paranoia and tribalism from the people who appear uncomfortable with this stuff.

Also, it defames Sargon with that one comment he made to Jess Phillips years ago. Sargon said "I wouldn't even rape you" and the hack at Kotaku appears to spin that as making some kind of rape threat.

Side note: Activision apparently censored the teaser trailer because they briefly showed the famous Tiananmen Square protests in 1989. It's ironic because the trailer literally says "Know Your History". But this isn't surprising since China doesn't approve criticism of their handling of the Hong Kong protests. I haven't seen Kotaku write about this censorship. Makes me wonder if they truly care about that and not just some relative nobodies on the internet.

Its been six years already? How the hell does this still alive? Its like the walking dead became Star War's child that nobody wanted(the prequels).

It does because people keep mentioning #Gamergate in articles. So we, as KYMers, blog it here since that's the point of this thread. Movement is forced alive, we catalogue the event.
Snag it.
Bag it.
Tag it.

In other words it's been 2 whole years since Zoe Quinn updated her Kickstarter and 1 whole year of Zoe Quinn driving Alec Holwaka to suicide.

Happy 6th Anniversary guys

Addendum for clarification: Zoe Quinn's exploits have been entwined with #Gamergate due to the #Quinnspiracy event which occurred weeks before #Gamergate was coined.

Due to the initial fallout of the #Quinnspiracy, (the whole journalists giving favorable reviews for games without revealing the relationship, and decrying all gamers no longer had to be a target audience for developers and game publishing media,) #Ganergate was coined by Adam Baldwin.

The above article highlights her other events from 2018 to now.

Yes, the handling of people talking about journalistic impropriety and certain people trying to censor it are what got the Gamergate hashtag started.

Things like Gone Home were examples of people reviewing the game while seemingly having friendship with a person or people who worked on the game, and giving it high scores despite the game appearing to have issues.

Quinn's game was not reviewed by anyone who seemed to have a connection to her, but it got attention from certain people (who appeared to be friends) without those connections being disclosed. She also got very biased coverage during that infamous Wizardchan controversy where a bunch of misinformation and lies were spread about her being harassed when she wasn't, which then got her game to be funded.

After the hashtag was started, many outlets for gaming and not for gaming started making the controversy about harassment and bigotry, which I describe as both astroturfing and moving the goalposts. Things got out of hand for a time, but have died down in terms of activity. And here we are today.

Wired tries tracing netflix's Cuties outrage to #gamergate.

So objecting to underage girls being presented sexually is #gamergate now, and that's a bad thing? What is going on now?

They say its because the director is black and is apparently receiving death threats, and some of the people criticizing it are saying conspiracies relating to pedophile rings. The writer does concede the promotion being mangled, but I can't shake the fact that they're low-key defending the film. They even say it isn't pornographic.

It's like another response of, "hold on, let's talk about harassment and bigotry and not your actual complaints", kind of. I wonder if writers like her are sympathetic to pedophiles, or maybe they are so partisan and spiteful of certain people that they feel compelled to make the issue about partisan, divisive crap. It's amazing how they couldn't really be nuanced about it. Also, it really seems like some of these people care more about the sexualization of fictional characters than children. That's really messed up and sad. But we've come to know that quite a few of these people are pedos so this shouldn't be surprising.

According to news reports read by the Quarterling, Netflix has lost over 9 billion since releasing the film and subscribers have dropped by 80k and counting. So it looks like there's a huge play to try and defend the movie by any means necessary to save the stock by attacking the audience.

In other words: we're seeing a consumer revolt against Netflix and the Journalists are pulling out the same stops to try and defend the company's offending decision.

Its similar to #gamergate in this regard. Mass audience finds content disagreeable and votes with their wallet, gets accused of being everything negative. In this case: (and one can run a search engine on this) "The movie is Feminist" and therefore everyone who disagrees is…

Well, same song and dance from 6 years ago.

- Game dev Leena brings up Gamergate now that she can't bring death threats

- And Zoe Quinn gets mad that she can't send death threats in Twitter, wishes Jack Dorsey and Trump to die, she then makes everything about herself again

The first link doesn't work.

Quinn being miserable is nothing new. I think she might actually be wishing for Jack to get COVID, and I don't think she's quite wishing for anyone to die. Then again, she is complaining about not being able to send death threats. It's also not surprising that they'll act like it's okay for them to be violent and threaten terrible things, but not for others.

I don't like Trump myself and he should answer for all the shit he's done and he brought catching COVID on himself for things like not wearing a mask and social distancing but that aside, this just makes Quinn sound unhinged, more so in wishing Jack Dorsey would die as well because of what's going on.

First link is a Twitter link, here's the link again if it doesn't work on that first link

A post on Soylent News explains the wackofems as a Saudi-British spy ring working for Chatham House, backing up the "they are ISIS" theory and explaining how they had so much power.

Long article about Gamergate's 6th anniversary from pro-gamergater's side.

Screenshot from the Magical Girl Friendship Squad show
That show is a Western Cartoon about Magical Girls

This looks like a parody work, but it's not. They mean this in earnest. They're completely serious.

This cartoon is going to go down like the Hindenburg.

It's because for the first time in modern memory, the militant left were beaten back. When they made their move to take over and destroy the industry, the people fought back and won.

The events showed how they had infiltrated every major sector of the media and entertainment industries, and almost everything else, and the tactics they employ to infect and control. When GG fought back, they lost their minds. They doubled down and fought even harder, getting more extreme, thus exposing themselves even further. That exposition made more people realize that absolutely none of their hobbies were safe from left-wing gentrification. Any game, fandom, genre, format, medium, tech, industry, faith, they would stop at nothing and the record proves it.

Games went crazy, then fantasy and sci-fi literature blew up, then comics blew up, then cartoons. It wasn't even really sequential, it all kind of happened at once because these people are all connected to each other in one way or another. When one clique started losing ground, members in other cliques redoubled their efforts to maintain control or push from their end.

This all bled into politics. The Democrats do the exact same thing that the media and all the aGGro journalists and "influencers" did to us. The media gives them full control, manipulate everything in their favor, and they both lie and do everything they can to demonize and smear anyone who didn't fall in line with them.

GamerGate may not have had a direct influence, but it was the start of a huge push back. It made other people like us wake up to see what's happening all around us. It's not just entertainment, nothing is safe, but we can fight back. GG proved that they can be beaten, that if you fight back in the right way, they will expose themselves.

And they have. Remember Ferguson and the start of BLM and Antifa? Look at the mugshots of the rioters that keep getting arrested (and released without bail). They're the exact same people that screamed GG was Satan. This is all the same long, ongoing hissy fit. And things have escalated, onlookers have seen their actions for what they really are.

So again, GG didn't have a direct influence, but it was the spark that started the blaze. Bringing it up again is just them revisiting their burnt ruins to fan that last remaining ember, all while they keep setting more fires and blame the flames for burning everything.

Forgive me for the rambling. I was tired when I wrote that and it might not be worded as well as it should.

No man. It was quite accurate. I'd just like to add that gaming is the only industry they couldn't infect to the fullest and that got them angry. If you look at comics, literature, and television, they were in control of everything.

Gaming however, just like anime, thanks to an outside influence with little to no involvement with the activist cliques, became a stringer target.

The same people who like Uzaki Chan will defend Nier Automata, and us, "weebs" are harder to infest completely. Still there are attempts, but often backfire and polarize us even further. Such as the censorship of anime games or the attempt at ending Vic Mignogna's life.

As a writer I find this both outrageous and comical They've set the bar so low anyone with an ounce of creativity could push them. On the other hand it is so lacking in subtlety and ill intentioned it feels like everyone has become so stupid they'd allow this on TV,

And of course they try to bastardize popular anime concepts such as magical girls by mixing it with their propaganda. While at the same time expressing disdain to the ones who liked such tropes.

Well, they've already done that in the grossest way possible.

There's a scene where the cyan haired chick squats down and spreads her legs out, airing her crotch and there's some kind of energy bolt passing by or hitting it. She says "let it rain blood" or something to that effect, and then it literally rains blood, which does something somehow (I only saw 4 images and that was enough for me).

Then she retorts to the scrawny one, "That's the first time my period did me any good."

…

They passed up Smiling Friends for this.

No way the passed up Smiling Friends. Tie me to a missile and fire it at Adult Swim office if they did

Actually, this show is on Syfy. It's ironic that a show featuring a Japanese anime archetype has an ugly nerd wearing an anime shirt. Not subtle that the Gamergate person wears a fedora either.

I looked up videos on Youtube and the most viewed video I could find on the Syfy channel had only 41k views and it came out a couple months ago. Youtube reviews of it seem to be saying its crap. If history is any indicator, then a show like this won't fare well and get cancelled soon.

I know I might get proven wrong in the near future, but I don't think writing quality can get below that.

You're right, but still, too many actual quality shows have been passed over for trash. Like Owl House. There was something else planned involving Egyptology and a cat-man sluth on the last of his nine lives trying to save… the something. I can't remember what it was called but the concept and art was fantastic. Objectively better than Owl House.

As for the Magic Girl Puke Parade, I just saw another clip that… I'm still not sure what I saw. I'm fairly certain it was about drugs, as the skinny tramp was smoking out of a bong with a "magical" weed background. Except they were saying things that didn't make any sense.
Then cyan hair said while flipping a pill, "birth control. Something for the boomers." And then it showed her frantically chowing down on these things while saying something unintelligible, and then said something about some actresses bidet?

I'm not sure if I can even find it. I might get in trouble if I linked it.

Brianna Wu goes on about Gamergate again but with an image of anonymous apology that goes on and say 'Gamergate is a mistake' kind of thing

Keep in mind that there's literally no name, just anonymous. And people int the replies thinks it's legit.

Could be a troll, an anti-GGer pretending as a pro-GGer, an ex pro-GGer regretting as said in image, or Brianna just making shit up.

As im typing this rn the tweet got over 7k+ likes

Edit:

Wu then said this

It doesn't take much to fake text messages like this. I'd be willing to bet this is 100% fake.