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Sargon makes projections as to WHY the attack happened:

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Oh hey. 64 get. Time to celebrate with an image!

My bad, but how does a KnowYourMeme post/page GET works?

so basically this

What do you mean? A KYM page get means that the conversation in this thread has progress for so long that its gained another page in the thread. In this case we went from 63 to 64 pages. It is not necessary to celebrate a new page but you can if you want to.

Oh, thanks!

On something more related, if the media wars consolidates itself like GamerGate did, will we be allowed to talk about it in this thread?

It's an interesting reality here. A safe example would be an article blaming GamerGate as a precursor to what's going on. Usually called "Game-dropping." It's happened in the past, give it a few days and there'll probably be articles posted showing the relationship. There's been more instances involving people that were involved in Gamergate, so it's a matter of time before something is published.

As for topics that draw parallels? Make sure an explanation is given as to how it relates to GamerGate. Otherwise it could be noted as being off topic and thus warranting its own thread.

I am not a mod but I'm pretty sure if the parallels are explained then the answer would be yes considering that the lack of ethics in media is a primary topic in gamergate.

And with the way the media wars has been shaping up, it looks like they're going primarily after gaming youtubers. Youtubers who are generally gaming cultural icons. So it is likely that it would be acceptable to talk about the media wars on these grounds as well.

Oh hey, a gamedrop happened. Looks like the latest Milo scandal used Gamergate for his background.

good thing Milo didnt drop his spaghetti earlier

Ladies and gentlemen, KYM's Adam made a Brianna Wu entry.

Edit: I was going to upload images and videos. But unfortunately I receive another warning for uploading images.

literally wu?

Yes, Literally Wu.

I spoke to Don about the entry. He said it's okay to upload images and videos. However, as long as the GamerGate thread doesn't do brigading, everything will be fine.

So new rule in the list. No brigading.

Define brigading. I mean, if literally one user uploads and edits content on the page to keep it factual, is that brigading? I don't think so. More and more I fear the abuse of authority on the internet.

And talking about abuse of authority. It seems the GOG.com thread related to #GamerGate has been locked because it allegedly violates some rather ambiguous new community rules which forbid offensive, harassing, or discriminatory content and "hate speech". Who determines what is offensive, harassing, or discriminatory is of course unknown and could lead to censorship.

Edit: If I had the time

"Please remain on topic" does not mean "air unrelated grievances about moderators" or "seek validation regarding your sense of humor". Your next infraction will likely result in a suspension.

Define brigading.

Don't use this thread to coordinate or encourage any mass actions targeting entries, image galleries, or users on the site. You are free to interact independently.

That seems like a good definition for brigading.

The reason why people are concerned about the topic is because reddit's definition of brigading is "being a member of the wrong sub and voting the wrong way". Hence why you get shadowbanned on reddit if you are in a pro-gamergate sub and even glance at pro-social-justice-warrior sub.

And regarding the media, it seems they have a vested interest in injecting out of topic discussions for no reason. Anyone come to DICE video game awards to hear about travel bans? Venture beat apparently thinks that's a good idea.

https://archive.is/dosE0

Thanks for the definition. As pointed earlier, some of us are concerned regarding intentional misuse of the rules from people who have chosen a side on the matter, any side of course. Keeping things impartial and factual is a priority for most of us.

It's best to avoid the arguments and comments at the Brianna Wu entry. It's a PC warzone and already people are pissed off for disliking Wu, including certain mods that are in SJW mode. However, uploading images and videos are not against the rules like Don said.

But I repeat. Avoid the comments, and don't respond any arguments. I've been there. Trust me.

The general opinion of Wu is no different than yours and many would rather see her disappear from the internet, we just choose to not be so deluded that thinking misgendering a person is related to the issue or is gonna make a big impact. Her actions are what build our opinion on her, not the contents of her pants. Ironically enough you on the other hand care more about her gender than probably even Wu herself.

Your reply to that is then falling back to saying people are on your back 24/7 or that they're white knights. Nobody finds you interesting enough to waste so much attention to you and nobody here is trying to get into Wu's pants, so those comments don't apply. And looking at your activity, your reply now is trying to slander the mods all over the site and trying to get a personal hugbox started, which is evidence of how weak your stance is.

You're not making an argument, you just have a victim complex the average SJW you hate would get jealous of.

See what I mean?

Except I'm not pissed off or defending Wu, I just believe you specifically are being an idiot who needs to be called out on it. Nothing you said applies to me and my reply is no evidence.

(Likewise I have not pulled a mod card on him for the folks here who are worried about those things.)

@Gabenus Trollucus and RandomMan: While I appreciate your commentary, resorting to Ad Hoc Attacks (justified or not) has little to no relation to Gamergate. If both of you are going to discuss actions of user and conduct, it would be appreciated to do it somewhere else.

Anyway on topic:
Gamergate is still alive and nafarious according to Tim 'give me more money' Shcafer

Also: GDC is next week as are the Indie Awards. Who's ready for more collusion and ill gotten press?

Gamergate still being alive one could understand if simply going by threads and such where people discuss it but nefarious? Tim, I've yet to see any bombings that wasn't really just another name for internet autism.

That said, his GamerGate joke was still terrible, even for those of anti-GamerGate from what I heard.

He states to support feminism, but I believe hs is just a fraud. I remember playing both Brutal Legend and Psychonauts, and if you ask me I see many things feminists would complain about in those games. I bet he "supports" feminism for virtue signalling because he knows foolish virtue signallers are more prone to pay for an unfinished work through crowdfunding without even expecting to try the final product than gamers are.
He knows he is, like Molineux, an example of how crowdfunding could go wrong through failed deliveries and poorly made end products. As such he needs people who will support his crowdfundings not out of trust or quality but as a political statement.

A video regarding GamerGhazi and their spaghetti on PewDiePie

Indepth study (kia link) on Gamergate's Twitter users trying to prove that it's the most abusive. Findings are inconclusive after analysis of 1.6mil tweets, data shows most accounts are old, stable, social and not abusive compared to average account.

Ok slighty off topic but the images from GDC are pouring in and it's well… Not looking pretty. The following are to be listed under Gamergate's Substanding of Resistance Against Identity Politics. The following may rustle some jimmies:

More jimmy rustling here

Basically there are lectures being held to push a politically charged agenda about race and gender right now in San Francisco using the Media of videogames and their developement. Since this has to do with the ethics of videogame development, it ties into Gamergate.

Expect more as the week progresses.

>San Francisco

Of course. I wish that city would stop disappointing me.

Still, they're trying this now, are they. When the progressive cause is facing more resistance than ever? This surge feels rather like the Battle of Bulge with that context.

This can't rustle ones jimmies so much as make one roll their eyes. If video games are political, would that mean sports games are actually matches between democrats and republicans? As for the white cis gender man default, I can't wrap my head around that. Granted, most games I played let you make your character but even then, how many people would actually have to be bothered by that? Saying its the default makes one (me at least) think of games where you make your character rather than some game with a protagonist set in stone.

And in the case of stories with an already set character no one has the right to tell the writers what to create.
If they want to pander to identity politics and make a disabled, trans black, trans woman with zoophilic tendencies they are free to do so. Good luck selling that though, I guess you could use at most two of those things in character design if you want to sell, and that still would be aimed at a rather niche audience in most cases. Identity politics doesn't sell.
Now, if they want to stick to the fully functional tradition and make a character, labels indistinct and focusing on their lives and actions, they should be free to do so too. Not do what some ideologue in a conference room tells them to do.
These people are so invested in the postmodern thought of making all art as political as possible they forget that is not how art works. Yes, you could have some subtle political commentaries or even full blown criticism of a political position, but making a character a walking political statement by itself is not how it works, and in most cases people will appreciate it if the political statement is not the whole story. Stories must appeal to universal values most of the time to succeed. Even in extremely political stories like Animal Farm, Brave New World, and 1984, it is the appeal to universal values that makes the story function. Otherwise it would be just political propaganda, which was exactly something criticized in those works of fiction.
The gaming industry has no need for political propaganda. If you can't wrap your political views with a good story to tell, better keep politics out and provide a passable story.

A bit long but rather interesting video.

I sincerely like when a feminist talks to gamers without basically telling them they are the worst thing to ever happen in society.

And here is your problem

These people hate universal values

This probably belongs on the WU page but it mentions Gamergate.

Enjoy the insanity

Or to sum up the logical conclusion:

I refuse to believe they are unable to appreciate things such as freedom, mercy, loyalty, and kindness. Sadly they seem to prove me wrong every time I say they must hold some worthy values. All they seem to care about is virtue signalling.

It's fitting for this thread considering she thinks the FBI didn't do it's job in fighting GamerGate, especially after they said GamerGate wasn't a terrorist group.

Oh, they most certainly do value such things.
Freedom (as they deem acceptable) to do what they please, disregarding the laws of the land or conventional morality.
Mercy to be given out only to those who have repented and abased themselves sufficiently.
Loyalty from the oppressed minorities to their satisfaction.
Kindness towards those righteous persons whose feelings have been trampled on in the right way.

Trust me, Alarkoz, you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe these cultists think in remotely the same way as we do.

The second part of the video I posted yesterday. I would feel bad if I didn't post it here.

And a little extra too.

I tend to prefer being optimistic and believe they still have some common ground with normal people. But just as you mentioned, they are indeed cultists and they do seem to think in a different way from the normal human. They are disturbingly distorted and their perspective is just as distorted. They believe in our values but not as something universal that is generally deserved by all those who do no harm, instead they believe in such values only when they benefit them.

We've seen what they do and how the live. To some degree and/or combination, they refuse or even hate those universal values, or just values in general.
The "virtues" they're signalling are anything but. They call that which is good evil, and evil good. They condemn anyone for doing anything right or living a healthy lifestyle. Thus, they have made their lives absolute misery.

This is why they are the way they are.

Didn't know there were gender pins at the GDC. I would be worried about these people entering the industry if not because they constantly kick themselves out of it by making poor games which only a very small amount of players want to play.

(Note: I've been plunging myself way into W40K lore and I've likened the opposing forces of GG as the Chaos Gods. It's fun to imagine GG as the Imperium of man and KYM as the Black Library of sorts. With the above discussion of how to deal with conflict [Heresy]. I feel that this is apt to every discussion when confronted with conflict ever:

Keep in mind rolls are reversed for this situation.

This is to be tongue in cheek)

Anyway news: Another AGG journalist caught being a jerk to women

Dude also perpetuated the narrarative according to Ian "I'm still not Aurthur Chu" Miles Chong

The guy also made Bomb threats

Also Quality journalism this week:

Like a flock of sheep bleating in unison. They picked the most inane thing to do it over, too.

these people never grew past their toddler state of development
pathetic

Reminder from /tg/:

"I think too many people see this SJW thing as a right vs left debacle. It's really more a cultural authoritarian vs cultural libertarian thing. Think back to the 80s/90s when shit like Doom and DnD was being slandered as satanic. While I admit the whole ordeal was far more tolerable than the shit we deal with now, there were still people out to censor the shit we love. And these people were largely conservatives with values the polar opposite of leftists.
Now what did they have in common? They were pro-censorship. They thought that culture ought to be controlled and regulated. While they may have had different values and methods, they ultimately lived by the same principles. They should be in control of what people do and think, and fuck everyone else.
And that's what /tg/, 8chan, and hopefully (not counting on it) halfchan should be fighting against, those who try to establish control over something in order to regulate ideas and advance their own agenda (regardless of said agenda's political leanings) at the expense of those they have power over. This is not so much a war of politics as it is philosophy, and ours is in complete opposition to theirs."

Did a little more digging. Turns put the Switch chips are made to taste bad so kids don't eat them. Since the average game "journalist" has the intelligence of a/an (insert term of choice here)… maybe its a good thing to see them attempting to learn?

Speaking of switch issues, sice this is related to gaming. The new device appears to not be made of nintendium as its predecessors

(Recent link given due to updates of issues)

I don't see why the Switch cartridges tasting bad is worthy of such news. I'm pretty sure other cartridges and CDs don't exactly taste great either. I guess they're running that story just in case some of the readers may have younger kids around them and they might need a reminder. Then again, it should already be obvious why you don't want kids eating them.

Just seems like a waste of time.

They don't even have the excuse of a slow news week.

The most objectionable aspect is the focus on the articles. Even from the title you can notice it is clickbait. They could have chosen on how it is a safety measure planned by Nintendo to protect kids, instead they focused on the taste of the objects. A better headline would have been "Nintendo creates babyproof cartridges." it would still gain visits and is a more accurate description of what happened.