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Related to the Andromeda bit from last post

Some journalists are trying to save face with the whole "ME:A isn't really that bad" and not having any substance to prove it. Expect more GG fallout to happen as the week progresses.

Update by association!

Two things: Archon St.Louis (some convention) bans a Gamergate Panel because there was no Anti-Gamergate panel to go with it. And when that was explored another reason was posted. (Kia link)

As for the Association: Pewdiepie was put on @sweeden's blocklist because he's a gamergater… they think.

Never mind that he hasn't mentioned Gamergate or openly supported it, just that he fits the bill.

I em pretty sure he does not even know what GG is

I em pretty sure he does not even know what GG is

@hrom
You can say that again!

More things involving the Hashtag:

#Gamergate, Brietbart, Sad Anime Nazis and the Alt-right are just a rebellious phase according to the guardian

Salon reports on Woman only Wonder Woman screening and the outrage about it, uses every buzzword (including Gamergate) to denounce any legitimacy.

Troy Leavitt, Game developer, gives his two cents on the Gamergate event. Gives a pretty even tone

As for Politics in Gaming?

Waypoint's Ed Smith goes on a rant about how Far Cry 5 needs to talk about events that take place at least 100 years before the events of the game. Despite that it might not be related to the content in any capacity.

This kinda reminds me of how they claimed that hippies were just a phase

It is not just a phase mom! Milo 4 Ever!

More news:

Polygon says Games don't make gamer's violent, Gamergate does!

The writer must've really hallucinated those Jack Thomson years.

And the Daily Telegraph states that Of all the forms of online misogyny, Gamergate is the worst

With no links or evidence to back up the support. So more of the usual.

Plus side, at least Gamergate isn't in past tense anymore. So more for the confusion score.

So fun bit for anyone reading this. Far cry 5 is supposed to take place in America and theres already a petetion on change.org to cancel it.

Fun thing is, 4 hours after it was posted several gamesjournalists made it an article about buthurt gamergaters trying to censor content that portrays modern american extremists as the bad guys.

The whole instance reaks of collusion and bad marketing choices.

Trust but verify.

Further update: Sargon covers the instance in full

Well it's been almost a week, time for more news:

The Guardian, which has majorly downsized from its Award Winning days, believes that Gamergate was involved in the Stabbings in Oregon

Gizmodo still has a hateboner for Palmer Luckey because He supported Trump at one point though the evidence is shady and his girlfriend is a gamergate supporter

Looks to be a re-write of the NYT article

Samantha bee is convinced Trump is Gamergate's fault

Publisher Weekly mentions the Plight of Zoe Quinn and her struggle with gamergate, buy her book to hear her tale of woe

Cathy Griffin of Culturally Appropriating from ISIS (Yes that one) claims the backlash for her holding up a severed head of Trump is a result of no one getting the joke, the alt right and Gamergate

Headlines are determined to label Online Violence (as in not physical) against Women as the Gamergate movement. (No proof of actual physical violence against women cited)

Edit: I can't textile correctly!

I remember along the lines of a user from a forum that I'm a regular of saying this about those being in GamerGate. To paraphrase what he said, the only people that still seem to care about it (or rather most who seem to care about it) are those bitter over it.

Considering how these groups and individuals are trying to link all these to GamerGate makes one roll their eyes regardless of whatever their stance on GG was. Trump didn't need a ton of people from GG to be the new overlord of Murica and those backlashing Griffin most likely wouldn't even know what in the hell GamerGate is.

One fun fact: I remember seeing on Twitter in regards to Griffin's severed Trump head joke was Chelsea Clinton calling her out.
https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/869660019016466432

I don't know. I really think we got the ball rolling on the revolt against the manipulative BS that we've been force fed for the last 8+ years. We might not have had a direct effect, per se, but we ignited the spirit.

They did their usual name calling and screeching, tried to destroy us and the industry we love, and we stood our ground, dug up a metric ton of dirt on them, and made them back off. Now they're still scrambling to save some part of their ugly faces, and failing to do so.

Same thing happened with the election. Hillary's entire campaign was based on how hateful and bigoted 80% of the country is. People had already had enough at this point, but then her entire career and party was exposed as being a criminal enterprise. Trump won and these people are still howling like mad dogs, causing riots, and when you look into their histories, it's all deviant and criminal behavior.

So, yeah. We may not have had a direct influence, but we definitely started it.

More news!

The Wonder Woman movie is a direct contradiction to Gamergate according to HuffPost

So I guess this is evidence of Gamergate being alive in the [Current Year]

Another Palmer Luckey article with a Gamerdrop that puts the hashtag in a more neutral light

French Article talks about the progressiveness of EA in opposition to the Gamergate movement 3 years ago

Didn't EA's progressiveness led EA to basically put the whole Mass Effect franchise on hold and make Bioware a support division as punishment for their failure? Or did I think of another EA? Also, EA being put as a moral paragon is laughable, there are few companies which could rival, let alone defeat, EA at moral bankruptcy and unethical practices in the industry. EA is almost like the McDonalds or Monsanto of gaming.

EA's several things. As evidenced by E3. I'll let Totalbiscuit and his wife go over the highlights, including the "Creator Cave," overactive Youtube/streamers, gender/race inclusive politics and other cringeworthy things:

But now in the wake of EA lets talk about "Last night" no not time wise, a game. Or as it now may be known as GAMERGATE 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO (Kia lilnk)

So what happened? Last Night is some sort of Cyberpunk game that was announced at E3 and it's creator put out tweets a few years ago supporting #gamergate as well as having opinions about a certain Zoe Quinn. So what does she do?

Zoe goes full Anon on him and decides to voice her "Never Forget. Never Forgive. We Are Legion" mantra. And sends her group of flying monkeys to harass and make bad Pr. (The publisher goes into full backpedal and the creator issues an apology, so far no firing but a bit of bad press.) This in turn gets Notch to insult back and when he realizes who he insulted, doubles down and claims that Zoe is stirring controversy for money. As a result several games journalism cites are taking sides on the report, like polygon

Unfortunately, they have to cite the creators whole tweet which makes it very hard to spin.

Heatstreet has more on how this started. Use the Kia link above for more information.

Would it be wrong if I made any emphasis on how important it is to continue the culture war right now? Most people around here seem to downplay the relevant part of it in GamerGate, but as long as the culture war is tied to the whole ethics part, it can not just be ignored. And in terms of ethics the focus on just journalism ethics might not be a good idea. Bethesda just announced round two of paid mods, this time directly paying Bethesda so they can pay scraps to the modders.

Bethesda, Ubisoft, and Electronic Arts are basically the antithesis of ethics within the industry and are often in bed with unethical journos.

Well, and with EA/BioWare we can add also the culture war part to why EA is a serious offender within the industry. Remember their recent jewels such as Dragon Age: Tokenquisition and Mass Effect: Panderomeda. I know using the term SJW is a bit taboo here, but SJWs are pretty much still trying to put their slimy hands on the industry.

First off paid mods have been met with "everyone will just use Nexus." Mostly because it was there first and was the main option for PC. Mods for Console though… that's an unexplored territory so they might be trying to make a few bucks that way.

As for the "culture war" it might have to do with the ESA's changes. in terms of changing the way games work in a political manner.

The culture war is the most important bit, the game journos trying to get payola are parasites on vidya but the SJWs are enemies of vidya & gamers.

That's why GameSpot didn't become the #1 enemy of gamers after firing Jeff Gerstmann, because they didn't respond with "gamers are dead, Jack Thompson 4Lyfe!"

The old game journos understood what they were doing and who was important in the vidya industry, the new game journos think they are the ones who matter and want to destroy gaming and remake it in their image.

That's why we fight.

True. I know this will be a controversial statement, and might be used against me, but when they say we want to kick social justice, things such as feminism, LGBTLMNOP politics, and race and identity politics in general out of the industry, at least in my case, they are right. I want to kick all political nonsense out of the industry.

What bothers me is that these people conflate feminism with women, LGBT politics with homosexuals, transexuals, or any other no standard sexual practice, and identity politics such as BLM with black people, or Asians, or latinos, or whatever.

They use this tactic so they can claim "So you are against X detrimental political movement and the use of games as political propaganda? Then you are against X group of people!" And the problem is that most people don't know how to deal with peer pressure. We just saw it, the devs and publishers in the previously mentioned case gave in to peer pressure.

Appabend weighs in.

Just to quote on the Last Light drama: These people really could benefit from just getting off Twitter and getting fresh air. Sure the guy made tweets about being pro GG but on that same note, it's from 2013/2014. Three to four years old and these people need to REEEEEE over it. They can say how they'll hurt sales and all (especially since some people seem to swear off buying the game after the dev apologized) but in the end, that isn't going to matter because everyone else is gonna buy the game. They aren't going to care some random Twitter users feelings or how some anon feels betrayed over the dev apologizing. They just want to enjoy a game without all the screeching it managed to attract.

I don't think this has to do with game sales. I mean, I am still buying the game despite the guy giving in to bullying (I won't stop supporting a bullying victim just because he bows to his bullies), and I am pretty much sure he is still an anti SJW.

What should be the primary concern is the vile harassment he was subjected to. And he was harassed by people who claim to be against harassment. This was not unlike bullying at schools. SJWs are basically the political version of school bullies.

It has less to do with the game and more to do with the horrid moral bankruptcy of the press, game developers, and public figures who bullied the guy, including the publishers who threw him under the bus as fast as possible.

In the end this goes again toward ethics. SJWs are by nature unethical, immoral, and unjust. As Vox Day said, they always lie, they get in positions of power to bully people, and one should never apologize to them, because they will still harass you if you do, and you make them stronger if you do.

The Honey Badgers getting somewhat involved.

Um… Guys… Is it wrong if I make one of my good old 2015 GG battle speeches now?

BTW. I do not have a reddit account and not willing to make one, but if anyone with one could share this with the GG hub over there I would be thankful enough to go all the homo if needed.

Quick update on the revisionist history front. sarcasm It's a good thing to protect free speech by resisting hatespeech end sarcasm

I am this close, see the dots for reference, (..), of making a large political speech about the importance of stopping anyone who hinders free speech or revises history.

IGDA shows its ugly head again. It is time to purge the industry. A cleansing is necessary if we want to preserve what little integrity and artistic freedom we have left, let alone recover what was taken away from us.

Umm, the IGDA source he used wasn't unreasonable. I know members of the organization have done some shitty things in the past, but I don't see much of an issue with what the uploader presented from them.

It is a slippery slope. Who determines what is "offensive" or "wrong". It paves the ay to censorship, and violates the translator's code of ethics. It is exactly because of that document that Treehouse is allowed to butcher games and erase all context from dialogs if they feel like it.

Perhaps, but I think that has a lot to do with the people doing the translations and localizations and not so much a document they made 5 years ago.

You see, the whole thing is not right in many ways. The document itself is generally harmless, but first of all we must keep in mind the IGDA has been compromised for a long time. Also consider the ones deciding what to alter are people like Sarkeesian and Quinn. And finally keep in mind that making modifications to artistic elements is basically an affront to the artist's integrity.

We are not talking about toning down violence (The IGDA is pretty much OK with violence and gore actually) or even removing explicit sexual content that provides nothing to the story. We are talking about modifications with an ideological purpose or out of incompetence. We are talking about Fire Emblem Fates and its shameful localization.

This is basically a slippery slope argument proved right (as often happens with SJWs)

Not much in gamedropping save for this small gem:

Gamergate has sullied the title of "gamer" refer to them as Players now.

Clearly the author has not used urban dictionary.

I thought that players thing was from 2014 until I saw the article being from this year. Using player. Because Gamergate sullied the title of "gamer", never mind there were past incidents related to games that got controversy. As far as gamer goes, it's not like it did have good connotations to begin with, especially before GamerGate was a thing (I can imagine some people thinking gamer could mean future murderer in training if they thought GTA was a hyper-realistic training simulator). On that same note, one wonders how many will even give a single fuck over wanting to use player instead of gamer because of internet drama. My guess is that not many save for anyone that got too invested in being against Gamergate would care (such as say maybe a NeoGAF member).

It's a slippery slope in the other direction, too. If you start to allow anything, then some seriously jacked up crap can and will come out.
It's a lot like what's been going down in the whole left political end. Everything's gotten more and more extreme, and behavior has been progressively worse. We've got people seriously trying to allow for pedophilia now.

Whether by personal obligation or by enforcement, a measure of restraint is necessary to keep things from getting out of hand. That's a big reason why we have ratings.

Well this is interesting, Anita "profession victim" sarkesian had a panel recently and Sagron of Akkad sat front and center at it, to which she immediately trashed on. (Kia link)

(Posted via potato phone, will add more later/double post)

From what I've read she called him a "disgusting human" during a panel in which there was pretty much no audience, and apparently JoeySalads was in the audience and was forced to leave due to his behavior (kind of wonder if he did that on purpose).

We need ratings, we do not need censorship. Art, and works that have certain artistic values, deserve to be free, even if their content offends people.

So here's a report from Ian "I can't believe I associated with these people" Miles Cheong about what happened

As a response Sargon has called out Anita's actions during her panel, these actions are in clear violation of VIDCON's Rules and is getting a petition formed to get Anita removed from her position in the Cyberbullying panel.

Apparently Anita doubles down on her recount of the event. Citing that even being present is an act of intimidation and an accurate unedited depiction of events is "gas-lighting." (Retelling event(s) as recalled with intent to spin for malicious intent and abuse, which is contrary to the nature of the un-editied footage)

The unedited footage of the event in question:

So why does this relate to Gamergate? Anita Sarkeesian, in addition to being mentioned in the Gamergate Article, has ammassed power in the Youtube/google/political community enough to give sway at the UN and create antics that vilify supporters of Gamergate while also managing to get funds for her (totally not a con) organization Feminist Frequency.

As a result of her actively harassing Sargon of Akkad at a panel for Women, and pinpointing him as a an active harasser without letting his defense. This time in person and and with multiple videos capturing the incident, it seems she is mounting a larger case of career suicide.

http://archive.is/RXOOL

Why is it that Wikipedia so consistently omits mention of Zoe Quinn's activism in defense of sex workers?

I remember Laci Green essentially saying that sitting in the front was "confrontational", which I can see where she's going, but that's still not even close to reason enough for being called names. I don't recall recall Sargon ever trying to truly harass her, link one of her videos, or ever said the harassment was deserved. I think the worst thing he ever said was "they're just words" iirc. This kind of response seems like the actions of someone who is paranoid and gets anxiety easily imo.

Because the Wikipedia articles are written by her friends to shill her narrative (It claims her middle name is "Tiberius", that's how bad a case of listen & believe her fart-sniffers have).

Putting that on Wikipedia is bad for her career, meanwhile no one gives a shit what RatWiki has to say (even the lolcow communities stopped bothering).

I didn't think I'd be actively rooting for Sargon today. Is Sarkeesian really that disconnected from reality? How unprofessional can she possibly get before her droves of misguided fans get wise to her antics? Of course, they probably think she's being "brave" or something.

I will drop this here since it is related to the industry.

How unprofessional can she possibly get before her droves of misguided fans get wise to her antics?

The venue apologised to Sarkeesian and Patreon is looking for a reason to kill Sargon's account, so it won't be happening any time soon.

And update on that from Sargon himself along with a explanation of what he believes happened and how the antics of Anita border on Insanity.

It's an hour long and I can't remember when he talks about the killing of the account.

But he states that after Patreon looked for a way to kill his account, they couldn't because he didn't violate any of their rules.

He also goes into depth about holding VidCon staff accountable and using video evidence of the bigger Youtubers (Keemstar, Phillipdefranco) to show how nuts the verdict that Vidcon staff concluded.

(Note this falls under Gamergate's Resistance Against Identity Politics, specifically that Anita trying to play off as a victim while harassing someone she believes to be an opponent.)

Also in the news:

Glamour says women are more 27 times more likely to be harassed online then men, and uses Gamergate as an example

Which is odd because Pew Research has released a study which says Men are more likely to be harassed than women online. At a rate of 44% to 37%.This accounts for the raised rates of harassment against women aged from 18-24 where the rates are higher for women than men for that specific age group.

damn this thread still active? awesome.

Its all our fault guys. Criticizing Anita and daring to be in her presence is hardcore harassment. We need to turn ourselves into the police so they can lock us up for being men. As H3H3 said, a feminist's idea of the perfect male is a male with his dick chopped off, then shoved the dick into his butthole, and nail shut the butthole with a piece of wood, and die from septic colon. That dead body on the floor, is the supreme gentleman.

Great video. I don't know how one could support Anita after watching this. It's so obvious she a charlatan and a bully. Perfect example of a projecting sociopath.