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In regards to Gawker, didn't univision buy them out? If so, wouldn't they technically be alive or would they of just bought Gawker just to take some assets before killing it off? As for the impact of GG, while people can argue in GamerGate accomplishing its goals or not, it left enough of an impact that some people can't let go, such as with the salt the Last Night dev attracted or such as with some Teen Vogue writer trying to tie that Google memo guy with GamerGate.
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@StickyVivian

Yes univision bought them, immediately regretted it, gave it a new name. lost money, replaced some of the staff… and it keeps spiraling as a loss.

As for what you posted…

So green and purple is an excuse to tie to gamergate?
Guess infinty-chans color scheme is on purpose and the eggplant emoji is some sort of secret code symbol of the alt-right.

But for the rest reality, Correlation does not equal Causation.

As for news: Oh hey, a book's out now

So were approaching the third year of this stuff. And it's currently the one year downfall of Gawker

Now for some news:

Steward Campwell, active anti-gamergate (Kia link) supporter was arrested for online harassment

GG is the glue that holds the alt-right together

The CBC has labled GG as a harassment campaign

Gamergate was the cause of the riots in Charlottesville Va

But don't take our word for it, afterall everything bad that's disagreeable must be connected

And for giggles, Bill Nye's new writer thinks gamergate was the cause of the downfall of western civilization

I personally have one question to ask about this thread:

What are your stances on anonymous inside sourcing?

Trust but Verify. If information is given, it must be checked to determine value. So that rumor is not treated as fact. Just make sure its related to Gamerfate.

Mostly the stuff thats been linked is proof that someone took time to blog and make information public, concerning the topic matter

Whelp , update time.

Rough Draft of Zoe's book has been leaked by what appears to be a disgruntled CON employee

It mentions Gamergate. Just verifty first before trusting.

I also see it as a glimmer of hope that someone deep enough in the mire to get that info gains enough of a conscience to bring it to the public.

So follow up, the book in all it's glory is out. And it seems to skirt several bits of "actual libel" when naming names.

Here's Mundane Matt's take:

Edit: KYM gets kudos for archiving in the above vid

It probably should be actionable. You can't just make things up about people and blame them for things they didn't do. And it's not just Quinn who's done this, but the press, and the other LWs.

In related news on GamerGate the dead horse being beaten (which at this point would be like fine bone dust) as something that still goes on as a boogeyman to some people:

Some game journalist plays Cuphead so terribly a lot of gamers cringed at it. Cue some people trying to defend the game journalist. One guy literally tries to bring GamerGate into this because "ethics in journalism or some reason" (more likely, just trying to reap that sweet, sweet clickbait money).

https://theoutline.com/post/2218/gamergate-will-never-die
archive in case it gets deleted:
http://archive.is/0eHx8

Your archive link

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

Tim "I made an ant sockpuppet" Schafer has dragged the corpse of gamergate out again to reanimate it

Appabend also weighs in on the whole Cuphead fiasco and its relationship to Gamergate (He covers most of the highlights I would have posted here):

He even gives a shining example of Dean Takahashi (the terrible cuphead player), who has gone on record of claiming that Warhammer 40k:Space marine is a rip off of Gears of war, doing several crazy things during his tenure as a game reviewer.

In regards to Tim: Yeah, he can keep saying fuck you GamerGate while brown-nosing Dean all he wants but it's not going to stop Dean from being seen as a laughing stock for playing like DSP. Tim's just one of those people still beating the dead horse.

You said it, and so does he

Also if you scroll down Tim also thinks Gamergate caused Trump.
So there's that echo chamber of a story again.

For those that want a sum up: People telling Dean Takashi to "git gud" at cuphead because he's been a game reviewer for over a decade and should at least be good at playing games he's chosen to review. Something about being credible as a reviewer.

So to protect one of their own, a particular section of games and games journalism has decided to double down and call all critics Gamergaters.

In case anyone was wondering how gamergate is doing along with a sum up of recent events here's Razorfist with a alliterative rant about how gamergate has been winning in terms of its goals with games journalism and journalism as a whole:

(Warning contains swears, lots of swears. Play at your own risk.)

I agree with his general message, though I don't agree with the stuff at the beginning arguing that entertainment media affected people's ideas.

Been kinda gone for a while.

If it is not much bother, could I have a TL;DR on the most relevant recent events?

Also, page 69. Lol

I suggest watching the razorfist review, but if you want a summary in written form its this:

Game reviewer sucks at Cuphead, as in, can't beat the tutorial. We're talking worse than polygon playing DOOM.

Game journalism starts posting abput unwelcoming difficulty in games and catering to core games audience…

Minor Gamergate happens again.

As for new news?

PewDiePie shouts the N-word while playing Player Unknowns Battlegrounds and livestreams the footage. He doesnt know how offensive the word is until a little later and issues an apology.

Usual suspects grab torches and pitchforks. H3H3 also rags on Pewdiepie stating that there was so reason to shout that word but others are ok to because of context.

Creators of Firewatch CDMA Pewdiepie on their game because they dont support him making money for saying offensive things.

Firewatches reviews tank on steam as a result (which can only be reviewed by purchasers of the game, not key users or passers by)

A cry for censorship of bad reviews goes up to Steam.

Steam adds charts to show trends in reviews over time.

Thanks. <3 I guess Appabend kept me up to dat then. My sister couldn't stop laughing at the Cuphead fiasco when it took place.

Chris "still cant get a" Kluwe hates stardock for supporting gamergate and encouraged the piracy of their games.

So stardock is having a huge sale this weekend.

So that is where the Stardock sale came from? I generally wonder what motivates sales. It is good to see when they have a backstory.

The charts are actually a pretty good idea.

So Kotaku is now blackmailing people to try and get money.

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I'm not surprised to be honest; with how sjw's are no longer getting hundreds of millions of dollars it was only a matter of time till they resorted to blackmailing people.

Apparently the person that blackmailed the artist lied about being a staff member on Kotaku. Still a asshole thing to do though and yes the blackmailer is a sjw.

Isn't being an SJW the only qualification needed to work at kotaku? XD

And in other news. Media organisations are complaining that video games are unrealistic

Apologies, my edit time expired and the link didn't go through for some reason

https://archive.is/6RyEE

That's Clickhole a parody of buzzfeed by Univision owned The Onion.

Glad to see theyre still being silly.

sarcasm
Just remember, Gamers are why games have gotten so sucky. Not because of the producers that direct and have a hand that making them. No, its the consumers whom are at fault. sarcasm

I thought of something: the fundamental reason why sjw created media sucks is that they mimic tropes of when they initially decide to create something and by the time they come out with a product it's already been done to fucking death.

What I mean by this is that if you look at whenever a sjw makes say a fantasy novel, game or such it's always medieval fantasy. There's nothing in of itself wrong with medieval fantasy, rather it's been done to fucking death. Nowadays the most popular fantasy games are fantasy games set in modern times; like how FFXV sold a fuck ton of copies. By the time we start seeing say scifi fantasy with like say cyborgs who can cast magic sjw media will just then starting to make fantasy games set in modern days.

To put it another way: if you're playing catch up you're already behind because by the time the final product is done the rest of the industry will have moved onto something else.

The lack of creativity is a big factor but the other factor is that the stories are deranged. Good writers can anticipate and manipulate the audience's feelings. SJW media completely fails to anticipate viewer reaction and by extension fail to get the audience to even understand or agree with the characters the SJW artist wants them to agree with. This is why we frequently get characters who can do everything but the audience calls them mary sues because they have no character and do nothing to earn sympathy.

For example, one of the youtubers who's underseige by SJW artists right now is "diversity and comics" (that's the name of the channel). In his channel he frequently points out that SJW written characters fail basic morality and are overly egocentric. In his Ms.Marvel reviews, he points that Ms.Marvel doesn't feel terrible for unlawfully breaking into someone's house and abducting and imprisoning them against their will because it violates someone's rights. No Ms.Marvel feels bad because that guy was someone she knew.

We don't even need to go to comic books. The whole "gamers are dead" occurred simply because the author and the media corporations that ran the dumb articles had no fucking clue how amoral and poorly received their message would be. They tried to justify the message by saying that Leigh Alexander was referring to members that were misbehaving and that "gamers are dead… they don't have to be your audience(sic)" did not mean an assault on gamer culture. They did this despite the fact that there is no way to interpret the original article in this fashion without ignoring critical areas of text. Assuming their attempts to clarify the issue are what was originally intended, it reflects a blatant failure to convey a message properly.

They are such poor fucking writers and so morally deranged, they cannot notice that their own messages are terrible and must blame the audience for their own inability to anticipate what others will interpret.

It has nothing to do with using old classics. You see, there are many fantasy settings which are based on medieval times for example. The problem is not their use of common tropes.

The problem with SJW writers are the following things. They start first by injecting the ideology to make the core, and then add the story. That doesn't work well most of the time, you need to start by making your characters pleasant, then add whatever you want. Otherwise just write a manifesto.

Second, they focus too much on ideological matters, which hinders creativity, they actively look to pass the Bechdel Test for example, and avoid anything politically incorrect unless it is depicted negatively. They are pretty much curbing their own creativity on a daily basis because they need to fill checkboxes first.

Third, they do not appeal to universal ideals and values. They appeal to a very specific mindset, which generally is not something most people care about or like. For example, I once read part of a story written by a BLM SJW… It was crap because they main character looked like a psycho cop killer rather than a revolutionary, and even when questioned on her brutality, and the murder of cops who caused no harm, she excused herself by claiming the cops were all "class and race traitors" and pretty much supported the most vile and immoral deeds.
SJWs, with their minds warped by postmodern ideological nonsense, are willing to let go even the most basic human traits in favor of social justice.

Back on topic folks!

Dailywire calls in expert for take on mass shooting, porn and videogames are to blame

You should put "expert" in quotations.

And in other news, a "journalist" from rock paper shotgun has proclaimed that "journalists" should not use the word "gameplay" since the word "interaction" can be used to describe game… play er… I mean game interaction?

Remember what I was saying about deranged?

And a fun fact, the word "gameplay" does not seem to show up on any recent rock paper shotgun article. The "journalist" from rock paper shotgun also gave very smug and nonsensical replies to anyone who questioned his remarks.

I think Polygon recently came out with a stupid article discussing difficulty in games with the title surrounding whether exclusion is a valid design choice.

On a similar note Rock Paper Shotgun advocates for a Skip Boss feature

Ironically players are loving Cuphead, which was the game that ignited this recent journo madness. Many have pointed out how the idea of skipping bosses or drastically reducing challenge would turn the games into something not unlike a movie and pretty much making video games pointless.

example "Spirits within" was a great movie, I don't see what the problem is! example

sarcastic rant If only there was some sort of feature that would LET otherS PLAY the game so you could see the rest of the content. Too bad that the ones that could are being demonitized unless contracted. sarcastic rant

Also looks like buzzfeed fabricated quotes (kia link) for an article concerning many gamergate players

Dan Lyons doesn't think they're fabricated.

Dan's statement is pertaining to the content of the emails, and he doesn't rember sending them.

However, in links above, one of the interviewees was not shown the contents of the emails buzzfeed claimed to have obtained. When asked for a comment they twisted his phrasing to make it sound like he was confirming something. (he did not) Small difference, but huge manipulation of facts.

That's what he claims.

I'll withhold judgement until the original e-mail is made public.

That is fair. Here's Davids screencapped discussion concerning the matter of the misquote:

Just noticed a correction at the bottom of the article.

He apparently said "you little troublemaker" instead of "my little troublemaker".

Here's a dumb question: why do social justice warriors complain about other mediums or franchises not affiliated with them when everything they touch fails? Every comic book they touch has failed/is failing, every tv show they've touched has failed/is failing, every movie they've touch has failed/is failing.

Is it like how communists want the usa to be economically communist when economically communist countries are in the shitter?

Somewhat similar. You see, they act kind of as a virus. I know, I was one of them. They believe that by controlling the media, they can control people's views and thoughts, as such they want to "infect" things that are popular rather than create new ones. They also are rather afraid of creating their own work because it must fill all the checkboxes first.

Basically, they can't create, so they take instead.

rant

From my opinion? A mixture of influence and naiveté.

This is just speculation on my part, but games, comics and movies are seen as great influencers. Sending out messages, lessons and ideals in a matter of hours (or weeks or months depending on the medium) and being more "involved" and interesting when delivered correctly. Especially to the audience it tries to attract. So if a person can indoctrinate millions of buyers with their ideology and make tons of money in the process, its worth the risk of failure. Specially if the failure can be blamed on a strawman than its own merits. Game sucked? The masses are full of wrongthink and are incapable of the ideas the game promotes. Comic sucked? The buyers are the problem. Movie sucked? Audiences have succumbed to the ever present toxicity.

And the lesson never gets learned. Make good stories, make good characters, stick to the basics of the medium and people will probably want to watch the good content. Going in with dogma first will more than likely result in a failure.

end rant

Oh also Gamergate is the toxic culture of Rick and Morty complete with a link to an unsourced opinion piece of survivor Zoe Quinn!

I never payed any attention to GG because I thought video games weren't an important enough issue, but now that I think about it, how do video game websites that seem openly antagonistic to their target demographic (kotaku, polygon, etc) actually stay afloat?

You're making a mistake many people who think too highly of themselves make (not saying you are one of those)
The average gamergater is not their target demographic and will never be. Hhipsters, internet activists and people who make blocklists on twitter are their target demographics

They're owned by large companies that are worth billions of dollars. It's much harder for Kotaku and Polygon to go under than independent video game websites.

Well the thing is, Hipsters, internet activists and blocklist enthusiasts aren't exactly a large audience. Most of these website aren't actually making much of a profit. In fact, that's why there's been quite a few high profile failures lately and layoffs.

Most them get by via the following methods:
1. Getting lots of interns and not paying them at all.
2. Flat out copypasta of another websites\authors work with very minimal effort
3. Third party funding (this is generally politically motivated funding)
4. The obvious, clickbait.

Yet despite the 4 point list, these really are only short-term solutions. Interns will sue. If everyone is copying everyone then good content really isn't being made and good content is expensive. Third party funding is almost always political and political funding is unreliable (even billionaires with nothing to lose will stop funding a cause that isn't accomplishing anything). And clickbait is freaking garbage and people are getting sick of it.

If journalism doesn't change, there's going to be a crash within the next few years (assuming we haven't already hit the crash given trust in them media is really really low right now).

Speaking of the reach of certain influences in mass media…

TL;DW:

Journalist uses connections to make sure NYT coverage stays on front page at Youtube. Implications of connections show that Youtube isn't as non-biased as it claims to be.

So corruption in journalism and its direct involvement with Youtube.

I thought of something going off what I posted yesterday about how sjw's try to infest everything and end up ruining it. Ironically sjw's are causing things they hate and despise to become more popular by fucking up things they control.

It's no secret that before all this hubub comic book superheroes were not doing too well sales wise. Since all this shit has gone down comic book sales have gone from "meh" to "Oh god! Everything is on fire!" Then there's all the shit with cartoons and scifi which we've all heard about. This is kind of anecdotal evidence, but where I live there's this comic book store.. or should I say "was a comic book store".. anyway, when all this shit started popping off they started carrying less and less comic books.

SJW's, "Manga sucks causes the destruction of comic books"

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I wonder how many mediums in the long run they're going to cause the destruction of.

@LurkerLuking

I understand you're trying to have a discussion about those that have alignments against Gamergate. However, I must caution you to try to keep on topic as this thread is meant to discuss happenings about Gamergate in addition to being a social hub.

As for Games Journalism:

Also Shadow of War causes games journalist to write about not playing because of Ork Slavery