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honestly I think they might do the opposite actually, cause they say "if you dont like America, then leave!" but then they are like "you dare leave the USA cause you dont like it!? HOW DARE YOU!!!"

wait a second, did I forget "every accusation is a confession" applies to EVERYTHING again?
Like, it's just not how normal people operate. I can't get my mind around that this kind of compulsive lying is so omnipresent

Its a bit more complicated than that cause they dont THINK they are lying and dont see their own contradictions….I mean it doesnt make it better but its weird

Some levity for this times of despair

Please, we know forced feminization is a right wing kink.

So…. how exactly are the republicans in power gonna fix the economy and reversed inflation now that they won?

They have 4 years if they cant do it they are in TROUBLE (I mean Trump could try preventing elections but I am starting to doubt he is competent enough to do that)

Like A LOT of moderates voted for Trump cause he was gonna "fix the economy" well….lol good luck with that Trump. People are gonna be REALLY dissapointed with the Republican party if inflation and shrinkflation continues like nothing happened.

"Where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people too".

I quoted that when the American Right started up their book banning spree (and there was one church which did engage in a bonfire of books), and one could see in real-time how the attack on libraries, teachers and the separation of church and state has progressed. The slippery slope continues to go down.

Look at the self-pitying rhetoric, it's actually one reason why I refuse to humour a lot of the damned victim mentality of the American Right has, because like with the Russians they use it and any validation of it as fuel to attack others. Only people I pity are the children, what kind of quality of life are the Christian Nationalists planning with that? It's going to go through the same degradation that Turkey and Iran went through.

Since the prior issues with the Christian Nationalists has sadly proven true, I'll like to point out that there's a worrying amount of groundwork being laid by the American Right on Mexico & Greenland. It's not just random people, politicians including the new nominees, particularly the new American Defense Secretary Hegseth has said something about it.

Now talks of "buying" and "taking" Greenland probably won't bear fruit in a long-time, especially since there was so much noise about "the economy" and the consequences it will have between Europe and the US (i.e: possibly war) may still be too much, but rhetoric about the Mexicans is worrying. American Right rhetoric has been unironically about "peace through strength", and since it's highly likely at this point that they'll disengage from a lot of other theaters, there's a question on where they'll use their military?

It's possibly far-fetched, but consider how the "trade war" and actual wars went from something that will never happen to something that did. I'll never really forget how complimentary Trump was of Putin's "genius move", or the complete and utter lack of any concern of many about territorial aggression, sometimes one has to judge people by what they say and do,

I think I have some takers for me to continue this line of thought. See, the reason why we don't seriously think "Country X is going to do Y" is because there's a variety of different arguments.

So, why wouldn't the US do that, or what excuses is there, or what are the different ways to frame that? I've liked to see the various defenses that came up, although it's some version of "stop thinking about it", than don't bother.

After the Christian Nationalist stuff, I have no patience anymore for constant denials and than shocking actions to cultivate apathy or despair; that's a tactic I already have enough of with the Russians.

I see what you are saying but I would rather not get so pessimistic and alarmistic just yet, it aint good for one's mental health and Trump hasnt even started his presidency

Ha, maybe you're right. Although, I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic , more … defiant? It's an opportunity.
I remember how in 2016 the argument was "give Trump a chance", and he did get it. I don't want to repeat all the same argument beats as last time, because indecision is a strategy.

To explain, when dealing with someone who lies or changes their story often and deliberately tries to cultivate indecision on whether they're going to be hostile or not, one has to stop wondering what they'll do and start predicting and planning against them. Prepare for the worst case scenario, cutoff possible avenues of action so to speak, be proactive.

Building on that, I want to know as many people's opinion on this as possible, before it gets to be influenced by media. So far this is a non-story, but if there's ever talks of an "intervention" in Mexico, it won't be a surprise.

Thats fair but just know when to quit for a while and take breaks though as its often not a matter of "if" constant politics will drive you a bit insane but often more a matter of "when" constant politics will drive you a bit insane.

This current political climate is NOT good for ones sanity so its important to take breaks….trust me….I would know….

And I aint the only one in a leftwing-ish discord community I am in who fucking lost it over the years cause of politics…… hell greyblades for example used to be normal-ish at first…. gotta be careful about over stressing yourself

There's something to be said about Mexico's utter failure to handle the cartels; the PRI, who ran the country uninterrupted until 2000, had explicit ties to them, and MORENA seems uninterested in actually doing anything about it either.

The US has a pretty poor track record when it comes to interventions past, like… the early 50s, but unlike in Iraq or Afghanistan, the cartels really are our problem, making the situation much less simple. Not only is Mexico directly on our border, rather than being on the other side of the world, but the cartels are in our cities, too. The ideal situation would be for Mexico to get another president like Calderón, who wants to root out the cartels and is willing to accept American cooperation; given the popularity of El Salvador's Bukele and his platform across Latin America, it may happen in the next few elections.

Mexico is doing the best they can take in cknsideration how insanely powerful and ruthless the cartels are

There exists the political will to do something with Mexico on both parties. A Department of State offcial was anonymously quoted in Mexican media before the election saying "Let me put it simply, the Democrats want to fuck (chingar) Mexico and the Republicans want to invade it." But what people don't seem to realize is that a potential invasion is doomed to be a failed enterprise, as the cartels do have the hability to significantly retailate against American troops. This will in turn escalate violence levels harming the american economy, and that would be Trump's strongest detterent to actually plan an invasion. However, the stars seems to be aligning with all this recent talk of excluding mexico from USMCA treaty. Hopefully doesn't, but it seems to be how Mexico's new female president and trump get along. Perhaps will explain later a short crash course of Mexico's social history and how we got to this point and what lies next.

In the end I believe that US has just too much to lose even if Trump minimizes all the negative outcomes of a invasion to the fullest extent.

That was an interesting read, I'll save it for commenting later

Nah, compared to El Salvador, Mexico is too big, too close to the US and the situation is now just too complex for trying trying that strategy again.