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![Fire Emblem Fates - Leon x Marx The first few lines remain the same, until the support starts delving into the motivations of the characters. While both situations talk about the war meeting (professional context) Xander engages Leo less formally and does not remind Leo of his "noblesse oblige" in the original. Xander is the type that mixes formal and informal speech, basically, he's not as stuck up as he seems in the localization, instead, his speech is sometimes formal, sometimes not, depending on the situation and with whom he speaks Leo's really angry outburst is also not present in the original (and in this context, Xander is more surprised by Leon's words), he tries to hide his problem because he's uncertain and feels that he can't measure up, so instead of anger, he's more depressed and closed in more than anything("Nante ne"/"なんてね" to "I'm kidding" or "just kidding" to hide it), which is why his change to an arrogant and dismissive character changes the context of the scene dramatically. https://karasucorps.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/fire-emblem-fates-support-conversation- leon-X-marx-c #Torrentia!Downpour C Support Translation Original Nintendo of America Ver. [マーク지 Marx: Leon. Do you have a minute? We need to Xander: Leo. Do you have a moment? I wish to talk about the war council the other day レオン。少しいいか。 この間の軍議のことで話がある。 speak with you about the last war meeting [レオン] Leon: About the war council? Leo: The war meeting? Whatever about? ō我 マークス お前は挙手をして意見を出そうとしたが 結局は何も言わずにやめてしまっていた。 あれはどういうことだ。 Marx: You raised your hand and were about to Xander: I saw you raise your hand as if you were | say something, but by the end, you stopped without saying anything What was that all about? | about to give your opinion on something. But then you lowered it without a word... Leon: Oh, that... Leo: Ah. Well... That was あれは Marx: If youre not pleased with my direction, I'd Xander: If you take issue with what I'm have you give me your personal suggestions without reserve [マーク지 もし、 お 私の方針が気に入らないなら リの案をちゃんと出すべき proposing, you should not hesitate to speak up You are a prince of Nohr, Leo. It is your royal duty to do so Leon: It would be meaningless if I did Leo: I suppose...though there would have been no point in speaking up ,出したところで意味ないよ。 マークス Marx: What are you saying? Xander: How so? だって、軍議の方針は マークス兄さんが出したものだろ。 マークス兄さんの方針の前では Leon: I mean the direction of the war council is Leo: *sigh* Because you're the crown prince something you, my big brother decide In front of that, my suggestions are just Xander. You alone decide what we do. And with the great Xander at the helm, my ideas are like those of a child. So what's the point of speaking Uu マークス 意見を言う前に尻込みをしてどうする。 私だったらそんなことで Marx: What are you doing sitting on your ass Xander: What's the point of remaining silent? If I feeling sorry for yourself for giving an opinion. I were in your shoes, I would would not be intimidated by such things Leon: Im different from you, brother. Leo: That's just it, Xander! I'm NOT you! 僕とマークス兄さんは違うんだ マークス Marx: !! Xander: !! なんてね でめんよ、マークス兄さん。 悪いのは僕だ。 今度から気をつけるよ。 Leon: I'm kidding! Sorry, Marx That's my bad. Ill keep that in mind from now on Leo: ...I'm sorry, Brother. Please forgive my outburst. I beg of you to let this go. It's all my fault, as ever. I promise to make you proud next ime マークス Marx: Leon Xander: Leo レオン](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/102/988/e37.png "Leo x Xander C conversation")
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![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo As seen previously, the conversation is completely changed, instead of a confession from Foleo, we have a semi-non- friday Anyway, in the original, Foleo finally expresses his inner issues with how he thinks others see him, the localization misses that, actually, the localization misses any type of characterization, or at least, meaningful characterization. Soleil taks about her own preferences in romance and also shows a more embarrassed side which is usually absent from the really socially free Soleil. The localization talks about a bottle of shampoo. Oh and, it finally shows what they wanted to make Foleo become. If you've seen C, B and A, you'd know Foleo has some issues with his apperance in the original, the localization takes that out. Let that sink ih. If you want to see all the other documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Forrest: Hello, Soleil. Im sorry again about the hair debacle! You've looked so down ever since! I can make it up to you. I'd be happy to sew you like mine? Would that cheer you up? Soleil: That's really sweet of you, Forrest, but I that frown upside down," but sometimes that's Soleil:What's up with you, Foleo? YOU calling MY name. Will wonders never cease. don't think a cape will help. I always say,"Tun フォレオから声をかけてくれるなんて hard to do about you Do girls? har. I don't know ソレイユは 女の子が好きなんですよね? あはは 今更そんなことを聞くの? Soleil: Ahaha. You have to ask? Of course! I love cute girls! Soleil: Oh, that's not it! I'm bummed because you wont curls and I are hopeless! あたしは可愛い女の子が大好きだよ! 男の子じゃダメなんですか? Foleo: So you're not interested in boys? I mean Forrest: Why would you say that? There are other Soleil: I wouldnt say I'm not interested in them Soleil: Really? I thought someone super-cute like I mean, look there's no grace with guys, right? we could do besides har! [ソレイユ] 女の子の方が断然好きだよ。 だから、見てても盛り上がらないんだよね you would have tons of friends already So I don't get worked up when I look at them. Forrest: I have friends, but I've always got room やっぱりそうなんですか… Soleil: But I ove you My heart really gets going when I look at you and I just want to squeeze you ch so tight! Soleil: And what if I don't want to be your friend? でも、フォレオのことは好きだよ。 見ててきゅんき ゃんするし Foleo: Realy? You really think that of me? Forrest: Oh! well, in that case, I t be on my 本当にそう思ってくれているのですか? 僕は男なのにこんな見た目で… 気持ち悪いと思ったことはないんですか? boy, but I look lke this? Soleil: How could I ever think such a thing!! Soleil: No! Wait! I didn't mean it lke that. What if I want to be MORE than your friend? フォレオはとっても素敵だもん。 Why would I chase you around so much if you フォレオを悪く言う奴がいたら picking on you, I'1l give em what If for with my ソレイユ If that's true . then would you consider a それな 僕とお付き合いしてくれませんか? Soleil: You know that I have a thing for super cute girls, right? all? I love you. Forrest: Right..but you know that Im.. 僕はソレイユのことが好きなんです。 フォ· フォレオがあたしを好き! ? Soleil: Y-you love me? ご迷惑だったでしょうか? Forrest: Well, Soleil, I think youre pretty adorable ま、 まさかそんな No no Solell: Really? フォレオみたいな可愛い子に告白されて あたし、天にも昇るような気分で Forrest: Yes! You have so much energy. When you show up, you light up the whole room. I don't even mind all of the hair pulling and the Foleo: Soleil! Soleil: Wait a minute! You said I could borrow it 僕は真剣なんです 真剣に返事をして下さい Forrest: Im teasing! In fact, I have a gift for you I got you your very own bottle. ser Soleil: Youre right sorry. But, I ..just dont Soleil: What?! For me? You mean, I can smell like でも、あたし…わかんないよ あたしフォレオに好かれるようなこと I haven't done anything to make you love me いつも追いかけ回してただけなのに らですよ ソレイユは僕が男とか女とか Without worrying about whether I'm a boy ora too, you know girl You said you んな女性は他にはいません。 僕は あなたが好きなんです… There's no other lady lke that around. That's I love you. Soleil: Aww... Thanks, Forrest! You really know a girt feel special 返事を聞かせてください。 ソレイユ Soleil: D-Don't be so mean, Foleo Im the one [BLANK] |いつもはあたしか。説く方だったのに I love you too as a woman loves a man. フォレオが好きだよ 一人の男性として [フォレオ]本当ですか! Foleo: Realy? Soleil... that makes my day! れで僕たちは恋人同士ですね! [ソレイユ ちょっと…扌包きしめないでよフォレオ. Soleil: Aiie! Wait don't hug me, Foleo! どうしてですか? Foleo: Why? Youte always hugging me. Soleil: Being hugged is different from hugging! [BLANK] するのとされるのじゃ違うんだよ! Foleo: Well that's because youfe so cute and I [フォレオ]ソレイユが可愛いのがいけないんで すよ。それに, 自分の気持ちに嘘をつく方が 恥ずかしい ソレイユ言ってませんでしたっけ? Also, lying about what you feel is more embarrassing Isnt that you said, Solell? me レイユ]フォレオのいじわる Foleo: Ehehe. You can handle a little teasing. It's not as if I'm trying to embarrass you in front of BLANK] everyone. Im going to treasure you from now [フォレオ]うふふ·いじわるでいいですよ◇ 恥さらしにはなりたくありませんから。 今まで追いかけ回された分…これからは 僕があなたを可愛がっちゃいますからね。 逃がしませんよ. 僕の可愛いソレイユ。 as you used to chase me around. I wont let you get away, my cute little [ソレイユ] なんか Soleil: Oooh I dont know about this](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/169/eb8.png "Soleil x Foleo S support")
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![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna Lazwald's change to being an "annoyance" is now part of his character in the S support, changing his way of approaching Selena again, taking away from the purpose of the conversation. Most likely because they had to put something in there after they ve already changed Lazwald's character in the t string Odin's insertion is another reminder of discontinuity in the conversations not being fixed properly There are various other lines that were altered or cut to change their interactions and character. For example, Selena doesn't show her less rough side of her character, every mention of it has been cut out or altered in the localization, embarrassment and bashfulness seem to be a target for alteration for whatever reason. As usual, romance, nuance and depth have been shred apart (and probably in this case because they wanted to fit Selena completely in the "Tsundere" character trope without having her also resort to physical violence) #Torrential Downpour S Support Translation Nintendo of America Ver. [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Luna, I have a gift for you today! Laslow: Selena, my darling! I have a gift for you 今日は君に贈り物があるんだ。 Luna: Lazwald what's with you all of a Selena: Hm? For me? ラズワルド [ラズワルドしたっ(いうの? Lazwald: It's this bracelet. I wonder if youll Laslow: Ta-da! It's a bracelet! この腕輪なんだけど… 受け取ってもらえないかな? Luna: !! That .. .b-bracelet Selena: Laslow! Is that...? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I've always kept it safe, so that I might Laslow: Indeed it is. I've been keeping it one いつか君に渡せるようにって ずっと大切にしまっておいたんだ。 Luna: B-but, why now . why give it to me Selena: But...why are you giving this to me now? で、でも、どうして今 それをあたしにくれるの? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Ahaha! Why do you think? Laslow: Why do you think I am? あはは なんでだと思う? き、聞いてるのはあたしよ! 早く理由を教えなさいよ! Luna: Im the one asking the questions here! Sena: I'm the one asking the questions here! Tell me why youre doing this, right now Lazwald: Okay well I thought about it a lot Laslow: Fine, fine. You're no fun! I decided to After all that thought, I came to the conclusion give it to you because...well... It's a symbol of that I love you. I want to be with you foreve our everlasting friendship! よく考えたんだけどさ 僕はやっぱり、ルーナが好きだよ。 Selena [ラズワルド] Laslow: Because we I thought it would be nice for you to have a keepsake lke this. It's to remind you that I'll always be here for you. give you this So brace レーナに渡したいなって思ったんだよ。 Luna: I got that part of it! You really thought you wanted to be together my side forever Selena: Yeah, yeah, I get it. You want to be by そ、それはわかってるわよ! あんたはあたしと すっと一緒にいたいって思ったのよね? ラズワルト] Luna: So you've got the bracelet . that you Selena: So...everlasting friendship, huh? Did you その腕輪を… それで、 あたし me give something to Odin too, then? Or...is there What I mean to say is come on..dont you something else you'd like to say? have something else to tell me? 何か他にも言うことがあるんじゃない? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I dont know? What could you possibly Laslow: Something else? Like what? alking Luna: Erg, I just can't stand it anymore! Why are Selena: Do you really have to be so thickheaded? so なんでこんなににぶいのよ! [ラズワルド] Laslow: Im sorry! I was just kidding あはは Luna: What's a j-joke? Selena: Kidding?! [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I do love you. Consider this bracelet Laslow: I do have something else to say to you. my vow of love to you. 僕は君を愛してる この腕輪はそれを誓う腕輪だよ。 I love you. And this bracelet is a token of my love. And to answer your other question, no, I did not give anything to Odin Selena: Go on. Lazwald: So can you see it in your heart to Laslow: Please, Selena... Will you marry me? 僕と結婚してくれないかな? Luna: Finally! Why dont you just say it honestly Selena: Finally! There it is! Took you long 最初から素直にそう言ってよね! [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Well will you tell me your answer? Laslow: So, um... Do you have an answer for me? それで レーナの返事を聞いてもいいかな? Selena: Oh. Right. I guess it's my turn. I mean, Luna: I-I.. what could I say it's We've known each for so long, y-you know what we've known each other so long... Do I really my answer is without me even saying it! なんていうか その 言わなくたってわかってるでしょ!? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Nope. Dont know. Not if you dont tell Laslow: Yes. You do me [ ルー Selena: Come on! Don't be cruel. You know how Despite the fact that you know very well .. what I feel あたしの気持ちなんて… わかりきってるくせに are [ラズワルド] Lazwald: aha, come on, let me hear it. I can't | Laslow: Haha, so then say it already! あはは Selena: .. OK. Um...look, Laslow. I really like I-I . love you .too... I always have.I always will, no matter where we end up .I love you. あんたのことが好き 今までも ,すきょ. ラズワルト Luna: So I guess I have nothing better to do Selena: Ugh, fine. Look, I love you! I love you, Laslow 仕方ないから結婚してあげるわ! Lazwald: Thank you ! With this promise, Laslow: Splendid! And will you share your life never be torn apart from each other これで僕たちは…一生離れられないね。 そ、そうよ…幸せにしなかったら 許さないんだから Luna: W-well said .. but I'm warning you, if Selena: Yes! But if you mess this up, I will end you don't make me happy, you'll never hear the you. Understand? end of it [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I know, I know. I'll definitely make you Laslow: Understood. I am yours forever, my love 絶対しあわせにするよ、 お姫様! Selena: So…you know this means you can't be Laslow Selena Laslow: Just kidding! Of course I know that! I promise to devote from here on out. Selena: You better! Oh, and I'll do the same](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/097/430/c84.png "Lazwald x Selena S support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna Here it's more apparent why the cut line in the C conversation takes away a lot of meaning behind their discussion of their previous home, there's also an odd insertion of "Odin" in this conversation this just confuses the reader more because of the lack of mention of their "previous home". Selena continues to suffer from having her character being exaggerated and putting Lazwald down some more. The original Selena is still giving him more space to breathe instead Lazwald is also no longer portrayed as being oblivious and lacking self-awareness, but as an #Torrential Downpour origi Translation Nintendo of America Ver. ズワルド : What do you want, Luna: Lazwald Lazwald: You totally got me the last time I thought I was going to die to fromm ラズワルド [ラズワルド] aslow: Oh, thank goodness! Youre back to もう この前は参ったよ。 あんなに見つめられて 恥ずかしくて死ぬかと思っちゃつた。 your old grumpy self. I was worried you were going to give me the flirty treatment again. I don't think I've ever been so mortified in my life embarrassment if you stared at me like that any Selena: Oh, yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have gone quite so far. You're not THAT bad... I just wanted you to know what it's like. I'm sorry Luna: Y-yeah well about that .. I'm sorry got this downtrodden look Laslow: Eh? Did you just...apologize? Without ou me It's not like you to just me WI ekly apologize some water ナが素直に謝るなんて are you coming 熱でもあるの? Luna: What! How rude! Ive no fever! It's just maybe I've been thinking about old Selena: What? No, I don't have a fever! I was just thinking about...old times はあ!? 失礼ね! 熱なんかないわよ!! 昔のことを思い出してたっていうか [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I guess remembering the world e slow: Ah.I see. Feeling lonely, then? I get came from has put you in a somber mood? that way too. It's hard being so far from home 元の世界を思い出して 寂しくなっちゃつた感じなのかな? Luna: I-I'm not in a somber mood! But now that Selena: I'm not lonely! But...yeah. I miss it.I you mention our world … It's been such a long time since our rightful あ、あたしは寂しくなんかないわ! 元の世界って言 あたしたちの本当の居場所なんて とっくの昔に無くなっちゃつた it now. No point in whining lace, if you can call it that, was taken from us There's no point in bringing it up now. I'm だから今さら何とも思わないわ。 fine it doesn't bother me at all Laslow: Selena... I won't tell you youre wrong We both know we can't go back. Not yet. But...I I guess if you think about it, we've come a longthink about it every day. What if everything went wa まぁ、 考えてみれば もんね 僕もたまに思い出すん 僕たちの生まれた世界のこと No matter how much we fight here, were never もう取り戻せないの( 今でもやっぱり、考えちゃうんだよね。 now, I1l think of it. About how great it Luna: Lazwald [ラズワルド] なんてね とにかく僕が言いたかったのは… ルーナが寂しくなる気持ちは 僕にもわかるなーってこと! Lazwald: Dont look at me like that. Look, what I Laslow: I guess...what I mean to say is, I know want to say is I understand how you feel when you get that loneliness you're feeling too well. I feel it Selena: I already told you! I'm not feeling lonely! あたしは別に寂しくなんてないわ! [ラズワルド1,- Laslow: Haha. Sorry, sorry! My mistake wa あはは ごめんごめん a Selena: Well, er, I mean...maybe there are times I feel a little lonely, now and then, but. Luna: C-certainly there are times when I feel little tiny bit homesick, but Lazwald: But what? Luna: I guess youre here with me ほんの少しだけ寂しくなるときもあるけど [ラズワルド] あるけど? maybe Selena: Well, I have you, at least. And Odin. So completely 孤独って感じではないかも Lazwald: That's the spirit. I'll stick with you は僕がついてるよ。 come on, put on your usual smile! Smile! Luna: W-whenever Im with you, I'm more likely Selena: True...though I'm not sure how cheery I あ、あんたと一緒にいるときは 笑ってるより怒ってることの方が多いわよ! to be enraged than smiling! Lazwald: Ahaha! It has always been that wa Hey, if it's worth anything to you, I1l always be Ill be by your side anytime you need me Luna: D-dont get the wrong idea! It's just my should be if you're my only link to home Laslow: Haha! Now that's the Selena we all know and love! Well, either way, I want you to know まぁ、僕でよければ いつでもルーナの側にいてあげるからね。 otten luck that fate has saddled me with you! had any choice in the matter あんたとはただの腐れ縁なんだから! e with fate, but it has you need something, you can confide in me a way of surprising us mere mortals. Particularly 腐れ縁でも縁は縁だよ。 つでも言って。 when it comes to matters of the heart. Luna: H-hmph! The way you get all pumped up Selena: Are you really flirting with me at a time ou But... yeah thanks. You cheered me up just a little bit. that's my lot in life, eh? Thank you, Laslow. For ちょっとだけ 元気出たわ。 Lazwald: Cool, no problem どういたしまして。](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/097/429/e63.png "Lazwald x Selena A support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna There's a lot of additional fluff which is impossible to reproduce for the type of character that Selena is, which is why the original chose an implied seductive stare (or ust have Lazwald show his actually shy and awkward side because Selena's attentive stare is getting to him, since it's translated as an "intense stare") Like every time it happened before, these conversations lose a lot of nuance and depth again. Selena in the localization sounds like she's angry with him just pestering other girls and hurting their feelings (Selena: I don't care what your intentions are! It's not your intentions that matter. It's how the other person feels. Do you get it yet?), while in the original, she's angry because she's giving them attention instead of her, which is what is implied in the original (and later on in the next support conversations). Selena is talking about herself when mentioning "other women" (e.g. when she mentions that it's embarrassing, when she mentions that Lazwald plays with women's hearts, etc) Lazwald becomes oblivious again, instead of accepting his "problem" (this is because of extra additions in the localization), he suddenly has no self-awareness again Besides the conversation having the same issue like some Camilla, Aqua and Nyx ones. See http:// imgur.com/x9xorBP http://imgur.com/NNjBkZd http://imgur.com/brcyRvK for reference #Torrential Downpour B Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver ズワルト Lazwald: Hey, Luna. Looking cute as ever today! Laslow: Selena, my dove! My tired eyes are rejuvenated by the s 今日も可愛いね! Luna: Lazwald you never learn, do you? You do know that if you keep saying whatever know, someday people are going to get sick of comes to mind like that, one day people are just all this empty flattery of yours going to stop listening to anything you say? Selena: Ugh. You never learn, do you ? You ラズワルド あんたも懲りないわね。 そうやって調子のいいこと言ってると そのうち、誰にも相手にされなくなるわよ? ワル{3,0 Lazwald: What are you talking about? Al I ever Laslow: What are you talking about? I speak do is speak from the heart. y true feelings 僕は常に本心しか語らないよ。 Luna: Is that so? From the heart, huh? Selena: Really. Your true feelings, huh? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I really do think youre cute, Luna, is Laslow: Just so! For example, I truly feel that you are the very image of loveliness 僕は本当に ルーナのことを可愛いと思っているんだよ? Luna: Unfortunately for you, no matter what you Selena: You know what? No. This time I'm not sa 残念だけど、 あんたにそんなこと言われても あたしはもう うろたえたりしないんだから! むしろ逆に、あたしがあんたを うろたえさせてあげるわ! going to just get upset. Nope..I'm going to give It's not going to get me freaked out or flustered you a taste of your own medicine... Loverboy! In fact, Im going to do it to youu! Lazwald: Y-youre going to freak me out? ぼ、僕をうろたえさせる? re Lazwald: Luna? W-why are you staring at me Laslow: S-Selena? What are you doing? な、 何で僕を見つめるのさ? Selena: Mmm-hmm. Momma thinks you'll do juuust fine. Let me feel those arms! Woo! Shivers! A big hunk like you is just what the healer ordered Lazwald: S-stop it, Luna.. that's incredibly embarrassing If you keep looking at me like that... I, I feel like my face is going to burst into flames Laslow: Stop it, Selena.. Please.. No! Stop! や、やめてよルーナ すごく 恥ずかしいよ… これ以上見つめられたら 僕、本当に顔から火が出ちゃうよ Selena: Aw, you're adorable when you're embarrassed, Lazzy. Me likey let's go get some tea, baby. I promise it'lI [ラズワルド] Lazwald: P-please . no more .. stop it already Laslow: P-please...no...more... Youre making me very uncomfortable, Selena! これ以上は もう止めて lunk? Gods, I can't believe I just did that.I Lazwald: Jeez, d-did you have to put it on full Laslow: Ah...is it really that bad when I flirt? I never meant to make a Luna: Consider this your punishment! Selena: Do you get it now? Throwing out al r going around and seducing for playing 無闇に女の子を口説いて回り those empty compliments isn't nice. And even if たずらに女心をかき乱している罰よ ! sideration they were welcome, you can't just play with around with women's hearts like it's some kind people's hearts like that! Lazwald: I-I never meant to do anything like Laslow: But that was never my intention Luna: A woman's heart is a pure and delicate thing not to be trifled with! Whether you planned to do it or not is elena: I don't care what your intentions a not your intentions that matter. It's how the とても繊細で純 なものなのよ! it ou see now You t to feel all that shame a dose of your own あんたもとくと味わえばいいのよ! 挨拶ついでに口説かれて 恥ずかしい思いをした子たちの気持ちをね! medicine! Now you know what it feels like when all those | girls get embarrassed by your flirtatio Laslow: OK! I'm sorry! I'll probably think about flirting do me the honor of helping me learn how. Over tea Lazwald: A-aahhow embarrassing . do ああああ..恥ずかし そんなに見つめないでよ…ルーナ BLANK] BLANK] im BLANK] BLANK] Laslow: Selena? Hey, I was just teasing! Come](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/097/428/b5d.png "Lazwald x Selena B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Nishiki x Aqua As described in the A conversation, the tail is still important because it's not only used as a way to "expose the fox" like in folklore, it's a way to also expose other's lies. Aqua is being dishonest about her mental and physical state (she's really tired), and the tail entrances her for the purpose of putting her to sleep. This cut line "You remain so graceful in your strong resolve to live, and yet here, only with me, you show me your weaknesses.." Pinpoints exactly the problem in this situation All of this is cut in the localization The conversation is also a lot more direct with the confession, while the original tried to escalate it The general lack of depth and general childish dialogue that is ever present in every localized dialogue is also present here, obviously #Torrentia!Downpour Translation Nintendo of America Ver. Azura: Zzz... Zzz Nishiki: You're finally sleeping well . Aqua Here I am, gazing at your sleeping face Aqua, sleeping like that. She must be exhausted you've got the look of angel when you're like Kaden: Azura looks so peaceful when she's よく寝てるね アクア。 こうして寝顔を見てると アクアもまだあどけない顔をしている やっぱり色々と大変な毎日を 送っているんだろうな You really must be dealing with so many things Nishiki: Aqua, allow me to touch your hair. Since I'm always letting you pet my tail, just this It's only fair, right? I let her touch my tail little, you won't mind, right? Kaden: I bet she won't mind if I touch her hair. アクア、髪を触らせてもらうよ。 いつもしっぽを触らせてあげているんだか これくらいはいいだろう? Nishiki: Aqua. good morning. You know it's Kaden: Good morning, Azura already morning, right? アクア…おはよう。 もう朝だよ? Aqua: Yeah ah! Morning!? Azura: Wha?! Good morning? Did I stay here all あはは、 嘘だよ。 Nishiki: Ahahaha, I'm just joking Kaden: Hahaha! No. I was just kidding Azura: Oh! I guess I drifted off again. Your tail really does make an excellent cushion. You're regular pillow again BLANK] Once again I've fallen asleep curled up around going to ruin me! I'll never be able to sleep on a 私また あなたのしっぽを抱きながら 寝てしまっていたの? your tail again, have I? Nishiki: Yep Aqua: S-sorry! I've submitted to your kindness [BLANK] ご、ごめんなさい。 またあなたに甘えてしまっていたのね。 again, it seems Nishiki: That's just fine. You know I don't care if Kaden: That's OK. I wouldn't mind. Actually,I'd But more than that, I want to see your sleeping like it if you slept next to me all the time ボクはそんなこと気にしないからね。 それよりもキミの寝顔を ずっと見ていたかったな。 face next to me from now on I could gaze at your face until the morning Aqua: S-stop with the... weird jokes Nishiki: Does it sound like a joke to you? それこそ朝になるまでね。 [BLANK] ちょ、 ちょっと止めて…変な冗談は BLANK Nishiki: I love you, Aqua Kaden: Azura, I'm so in love with you. I could ボクはアクアが好きだよ 強く生きようと凛としていながらも remain so graceful in your strong resolve to watch you sleep every night. I know you havea live, and yet here only with me, you show me こうし lot on your shoulders with. But at least I can be your soft place to fall Won't you stay with me forever? things I cant help you て ses 弱いところをボクだけに見せてくれるキミ can まらなく愛おしいんだ BLANK Nishiki: You probably bear a grand fate far greater than any I can imagine And I think surely there's nothing thing I can do or you, nothing I can give you But I do think I can provide that place of peace BLANK キミはきっとボクには想像もつかないよう 大きな運命を背負っているんだろうね。 ボクにはきっと、それをどうしてあげること も foryou to re でもキミがこうして安らげる場所くらいは Will you join me 作れると思うから ク うん、私もあなたのことが好きよ。 こんなに心が安らかな気持ちになれる Aqua: Nishiki thank you. Yes, I do love you Azura: Oh, my! Kaden, if I had my choice, I'd When I'm with you, I feel like I can truly be at home! So I want to be by your side from now on, if never leave your side! You make me feel so at だからこれからもあなたの隣にいさせて? ou me Nishiki: Yes, of course. I'll be yours and yours Kaden: Then it's settled. You can have me all to alone foreve yourself...always ずっとボクを独り占めしておくれ。 ク Aqua: Yes, Nishiki [An element of the trance Azura: You have no idea how wonderful that magic is present in this line]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/094/833/430.png "Aqua x Nishiki S support conversation")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Nishiki x Aqua Because of the changes to the C and B supports, the localized version just had to give Aqua reasons for what she is doing. The conversation become more childish and lackluster, even taking out lines that deepen the bond between Aqua/Azura and Nishiki/Kaden There's more depth lost on the meaning of the tails again, but it's only in the support S that there's an explanation, so for the reason, I will spoil the meaning only in the S support. #Torrentia!Downpour Translation Nintendo of America Ver. Aqua: Whew.. today's tactics council went on Azura: That war council meeting went on ar That said, now's the most the most crucial period, so I suppose there's nothing to be forever! I know it's important, but my goodness! 今日の軍議は長引いてしまったわ… でも今が一番大事なときなのだから、 仕方ないわね Nishiki: You're looking pretty tired, Aqua Kaden: Whoa! You look exhausted. I've never seen such heavy bags under someone's eyes! お疲れの様子だね、 アクア Aqua: Nishiki no, I'm fine, really Azura: Kaden, you probably shouldn't tell people Nishiki: Doesn't look that way to me. You've this Kaden: I don't know. You don't seem fine. You pallid look on your face and you're getting bags look paler than death! Do ya need a nap? under your eyes Perhaps 顔色が悪いし、目元にクマもできている。 もしかして寝不足なのかい? you've not been sleeping lately? そうね…夜になると色々と考え込んでしまっ Azura: No, I can't sleep. I just lie there with my Aqua: No, I havent obsessing about so many things and I just can't eyes wide open and my mind racing at night I just start 眠れなくなるの。 Kaden: That sounds terrible! You've got to look それはいけないね。 睡眠をとることは食事と同じくらい大切だ Nishiki: You can't be doing that to yourself! Getting some proper sleep is just as important after yourself, Azura as getting a good meal わかっているわ…でも… 今は泣き言は言ってられないのよ Aqua: I understand all that... but right nowI Azura: I know. I've just got a lot on my plate can't just start whining about it all … Nishiki: With everything you're dealing with, it Kaden: Well, I can't help with that. I try to keep must be exhausting! Looks like you've got a lot my plate empty. But I can at least offer you a of anxiety too キミは色々と大変なんだね 悩みも多いようだし… ボクはこんな性格だし、あんまり人の悩みを! I don't think I'm the kind of guy who can solve 解決することはできないかもしれないけど この間みたいにしっぽを抱き枕の代わりに Remember the other day? I can at least offer してあげることくらいはできるよ? super-soft pillow. Surely that'll help, right? people's problems, but you my tail as a huggable pillow just like then? Aqua: O-oh, please, if you would stop talking of Azura: Do you mean your tail? Nishiki: Come on. look at it, looook at it. そ、 その話は止めてくれるかしら Kaden: What else?! Come on, Azura. I'm being serious. If you don't rest, you'll get sick! can't resist looking at it, Azura: I guess you have a point. Your tail does Aqua: Aaaah aaah Im so pathetic 見逃せなくなる自分が情けない look like it would make a nice pillow Nishiki: All joking aside Aqua, you don't have to push yourself so hard. nice spot to curl up for a nap. Off to bed! If you destroy your body, you're not going to | have anything left to work with and it will all be Kaden: The best! Now follow me. We'll find a アクア、 無理はしないほうがいいよ。 らに。 Azura: All right, Kaden. Thank you. You're always so kind to me Aqua: Nishiki Nishiki: You say that, but I don't think my words [BLANK] are getting through to you. You're going to でもこんな言葉もキミには届かないんだろう continue pushing yourself to the break キミはやっぱり無理をし続ける気がする。 だからそんなときにボクにできることは しっぽを貸すくらいさ。 必要な時にはいつでも呼んでおくれ。 So when you're feeling like you've got nothing left, all I can offer you is my tail Please, call me whenever you need me es BLANK I'm probably intruding on your good nature, but ! when I need to, I'll ty ご厚意に甘えさせてもらうかもしれないけ そのときはよろしくね。 うん、じゃあね。アクア·早く寝るんだよ。 Nishiki: Yes, do that. Now Aqua, you'd best go to s [BLANK] leep quicky es BLANK or entranced.] Nishiki: BLANK Aqua, are you chasing my tail AGAIN? Aqua: Ah! [Note: And this is like someone [BLANK] waking up from a trance.]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/094/832/2b7.png "Aqua x Nishiki A support conversation")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Nishiki X Aqua The first thing to mention is how the localizers have made a mistake in their translation. They translate原っぱ("harappa" or "open field") to葉っぱ(happa" or "leaves"). Which is why Kaden/ Nishiki rolls around in leaves rather than in an open, grassy field which by definition tends to have no leaves As explained in the C conversation, the identity of the fox and their magic depends on their tails (catching their tail is also a way to de-mask them, which is present in the folklore), so Aqua getting entranced is part of the legend of the "kitsune". This can be framed as a "cultural change", but the dialogue is too descriptive for people in the west to not understand. This again, is completely missing, and was the main theme during the whole conversations Aqua/Azura seems to guilt trip herself in the localization for touching Kaden/Nishiki's fur without permission, while in the original, that type of implication is not present. It's probably because of the missing reason for why she was doing such a thing, that being, her inability to stop because of the magical powers of the tail #Torrentia!Downpour B Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Nishiki: U-urm na What's this? how did I get here again? Oh, yeah! I wandered through this field when I decided to roll around Why have I been sleeping in an open field? Ah! That's right! I'd been rolling around in this in the leaves! They felt SO good. I curled up and omfy, grassy grove, and then I must have fallen asleep Sheesh. always told I've got no sense of the danger of あれ went to sleep. Ha! No wonder people call me lazy! ...Huh? What's that?! I think something's んな野原で寝ているんだろう? it's because of times like this that I'm touching my head! ACK! 原っぱが気持ち良くてゴロゴロしていたら、 そのまま眠ってしまったのか はぁ…こんなんだから、緊張感が無いと 言われてしまうんだろうね Hm? Why do I all of a sudden feel like my tail なんだか、しっぽに触られてる感触が… うわああああ--っ!!! [アクア] What's going on? Azura: Oh, my! Are you awake?! Nishiki: A-Aqua, is that you? Why on Earth are Kaden: Azura? Is that you?! What are you ア、アクアじゃないか!! どうしてこんなところに!? Ol あら、 もう朝なの? Azura: Goodness. This is awkward good morrni Nishiki: This is no time for good mornings! Mind telling why YOU are sleeping with MY tail petting me ar ? And why are どうしてキミはボクのしっぽを 抱き枕代わりに寝てるのさ r hugga Azura: ..Er, I was walking through this field 私…その 自分の意識とは関係なく 身体が勝手に反応して近寄ってしまうの well... it happens without me even noticing, when I saw you over here taking a nap. Ever my body just moves of its own accord to get since the other day, I've been wondering what close to it your fur felt like. This is so embarrassing, butI didn't think you'd wake up! I just barely brushed ou Nishiki: Uh... what? ra: あなたの しっぽに。 Nishiki: Toward my... tail? oh! Ahahahahaha! Of course, now I understand here. I'd be honored to have you stroke my fur what was going, it was that all along, wasn't it? I had no idea you were into foxes! Don't mind, don't mind. The honor is all mine! あ! あははは ! なるほど、そういうことだったのか!! いやいや、光栄だなー! それほどまでにボクのしっぽが 魅力的だったということだもんね! y tail wasj wondrous and bewitching! Aqua: I don't want to admit it, but .. yes ra: Nishiki: So that's why, the other day when you Kaden: Is that why you left so abruptly the other pretended y chasing after me, weren't you? were lost, you were actually ay Aqua: Y-yes, I admit it I just want to touch it, Azura: I'm afraid so. I didn't think I could resist ちょっと 触ってみたくって giving you a little scratch behind the ears! Nishiki: And then today while I was slumbering Kaden: Azura, I'm shocked! away, you were entranced by my tail, And in the それで今日うたた寝してるボクの caressing it, you f Il asleep, huh? ua w you had it in you! ア Aqua: I can't help it .. there's nothing I can do Azura: So am I. I had this overwhelming desire やメ to reach out and touch that silky-soft fur 自分でもどうしようもないんだから Nishiki: Well if that's the case, then youre free Kaden: Well, go to touch it whenever you want to! Look, look! How about a touch? いつでも触っておくれよ! Aqua: Oooh.. don't tempt me so much, please! [BLANK] Ahhh I can't stop thinking about it... it's so cute and fluffy 目の前でフラフラさせないでちょう て仕方な Nishiki: Look deep into my eyes, watch it swing [BLANK] baaac 揺れてますよ Nishiki: Hahaha, no worries BLANK ははは、すまなかったね 角虯たくなったらいつでも触りに来ておく 別に減るものではないからね。 ver you fee petting it, come and do | so, anytime. It's not like it's going to fade away ou Azura: Thanks for being so understanding Nishiki: No problem! Well, I've got to get going. | Kaden: Are you kidding?! This is awesome! hope you visit me all the time now ではボクはそろそろ行くよ。 [ア Aqua: Wait! If you go first, I'm going to want to Azura: Really? I'd love that. chase after · 待って!あなたが先に去ってしまうと 後ろ姿を追いかけたくなるから… you, so... Nishiki: Ahahaha, well then ladies first! あはは](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/094/830/2c1.png "Aqua x Nishiki B support conversation")
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Fire Emblem Fates Localization Controversy - Leo x Xander C conversation
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![Fire Emblem Fates - Nishiki x Aqua Because of the changes to the C and B supports, the localized version just had to give Aqua reasons for what she is doing. The conversation become more childish and lackluster, even taking out lines that deepen the bond between Aqua/Azura and Nishiki/Kaden There's more depth lost on the meaning of the tails again, but it's only in the support S that there's an explanation, so for the reason, I will spoil the meaning only in the S support. #Torrentia!Downpour Translation Nintendo of America Ver. Aqua: Whew.. today's tactics council went on Azura: That war council meeting went on ar That said, now's the most the most crucial period, so I suppose there's nothing to be forever! I know it's important, but my goodness! 今日の軍議は長引いてしまったわ… でも今が一番大事なときなのだから、 仕方ないわね Nishiki: You're looking pretty tired, Aqua Kaden: Whoa! You look exhausted. I've never seen such heavy bags under someone's eyes! お疲れの様子だね、 アクア Aqua: Nishiki no, I'm fine, really Azura: Kaden, you probably shouldn't tell people Nishiki: Doesn't look that way to me. You've this Kaden: I don't know. You don't seem fine. You pallid look on your face and you're getting bags look paler than death! Do ya need a nap? under your eyes Perhaps 顔色が悪いし、目元にクマもできている。 もしかして寝不足なのかい? you've not been sleeping lately? そうね…夜になると色々と考え込んでしまっ Azura: No, I can't sleep. I just lie there with my Aqua: No, I havent obsessing about so many things and I just can't eyes wide open and my mind racing at night I just start 眠れなくなるの。 Kaden: That sounds terrible! You've got to look それはいけないね。 睡眠をとることは食事と同じくらい大切だ Nishiki: You can't be doing that to yourself! Getting some proper sleep is just as important after yourself, Azura as getting a good meal わかっているわ…でも… 今は泣き言は言ってられないのよ Aqua: I understand all that... but right nowI Azura: I know. I've just got a lot on my plate can't just start whining about it all … Nishiki: With everything you're dealing with, it Kaden: Well, I can't help with that. I try to keep must be exhausting! Looks like you've got a lot my plate empty. But I can at least offer you a of anxiety too キミは色々と大変なんだね 悩みも多いようだし… ボクはこんな性格だし、あんまり人の悩みを! I don't think I'm the kind of guy who can solve 解決することはできないかもしれないけど この間みたいにしっぽを抱き枕の代わりに Remember the other day? I can at least offer してあげることくらいはできるよ? super-soft pillow. Surely that'll help, right? people's problems, but you my tail as a huggable pillow just like then? Aqua: O-oh, please, if you would stop talking of Azura: Do you mean your tail? Nishiki: Come on. look at it, looook at it. そ、 その話は止めてくれるかしら Kaden: What else?! Come on, Azura. I'm being serious. If you don't rest, you'll get sick! can't resist looking at it, Azura: I guess you have a point. Your tail does Aqua: Aaaah aaah Im so pathetic 見逃せなくなる自分が情けない look like it would make a nice pillow Nishiki: All joking aside Aqua, you don't have to push yourself so hard. nice spot to curl up for a nap. Off to bed! If you destroy your body, you're not going to | have anything left to work with and it will all be Kaden: The best! Now follow me. We'll find a アクア、 無理はしないほうがいいよ。 らに。 Azura: All right, Kaden. Thank you. You're always so kind to me Aqua: Nishiki Nishiki: You say that, but I don't think my words [BLANK] are getting through to you. You're going to でもこんな言葉もキミには届かないんだろう continue pushing yourself to the break キミはやっぱり無理をし続ける気がする。 だからそんなときにボクにできることは しっぽを貸すくらいさ。 必要な時にはいつでも呼んでおくれ。 So when you're feeling like you've got nothing left, all I can offer you is my tail Please, call me whenever you need me es BLANK I'm probably intruding on your good nature, but ! when I need to, I'll ty ご厚意に甘えさせてもらうかもしれないけ そのときはよろしくね。 うん、じゃあね。アクア·早く寝るんだよ。 Nishiki: Yes, do that. Now Aqua, you'd best go to s [BLANK] leep quicky es BLANK or entranced.] Nishiki: BLANK Aqua, are you chasing my tail AGAIN? Aqua: Ah! [Note: And this is like someone [BLANK] waking up from a trance.]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/094/832/2b7.png "Aqua x Nishiki A support conversation")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna There's a lot of additional fluff which is impossible to reproduce for the type of character that Selena is, which is why the original chose an implied seductive stare (or ust have Lazwald show his actually shy and awkward side because Selena's attentive stare is getting to him, since it's translated as an "intense stare") Like every time it happened before, these conversations lose a lot of nuance and depth again. Selena in the localization sounds like she's angry with him just pestering other girls and hurting their feelings (Selena: I don't care what your intentions are! It's not your intentions that matter. It's how the other person feels. Do you get it yet?), while in the original, she's angry because she's giving them attention instead of her, which is what is implied in the original (and later on in the next support conversations). Selena is talking about herself when mentioning "other women" (e.g. when she mentions that it's embarrassing, when she mentions that Lazwald plays with women's hearts, etc) Lazwald becomes oblivious again, instead of accepting his "problem" (this is because of extra additions in the localization), he suddenly has no self-awareness again Besides the conversation having the same issue like some Camilla, Aqua and Nyx ones. See http:// imgur.com/x9xorBP http://imgur.com/NNjBkZd http://imgur.com/brcyRvK for reference #Torrential Downpour B Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver ズワルト Lazwald: Hey, Luna. Looking cute as ever today! Laslow: Selena, my dove! My tired eyes are rejuvenated by the s 今日も可愛いね! Luna: Lazwald you never learn, do you? You do know that if you keep saying whatever know, someday people are going to get sick of comes to mind like that, one day people are just all this empty flattery of yours going to stop listening to anything you say? Selena: Ugh. You never learn, do you ? You ラズワルド あんたも懲りないわね。 そうやって調子のいいこと言ってると そのうち、誰にも相手にされなくなるわよ? ワル{3,0 Lazwald: What are you talking about? Al I ever Laslow: What are you talking about? I speak do is speak from the heart. y true feelings 僕は常に本心しか語らないよ。 Luna: Is that so? From the heart, huh? Selena: Really. Your true feelings, huh? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I really do think youre cute, Luna, is Laslow: Just so! For example, I truly feel that you are the very image of loveliness 僕は本当に ルーナのことを可愛いと思っているんだよ? Luna: Unfortunately for you, no matter what you Selena: You know what? No. This time I'm not sa 残念だけど、 あんたにそんなこと言われても あたしはもう うろたえたりしないんだから! むしろ逆に、あたしがあんたを うろたえさせてあげるわ! going to just get upset. Nope..I'm going to give It's not going to get me freaked out or flustered you a taste of your own medicine... Loverboy! In fact, Im going to do it to youu! Lazwald: Y-youre going to freak me out? ぼ、僕をうろたえさせる? re Lazwald: Luna? W-why are you staring at me Laslow: S-Selena? What are you doing? な、 何で僕を見つめるのさ? Selena: Mmm-hmm. Momma thinks you'll do juuust fine. Let me feel those arms! Woo! Shivers! A big hunk like you is just what the healer ordered Lazwald: S-stop it, Luna.. that's incredibly embarrassing If you keep looking at me like that... I, I feel like my face is going to burst into flames Laslow: Stop it, Selena.. Please.. No! Stop! や、やめてよルーナ すごく 恥ずかしいよ… これ以上見つめられたら 僕、本当に顔から火が出ちゃうよ Selena: Aw, you're adorable when you're embarrassed, Lazzy. Me likey let's go get some tea, baby. I promise it'lI [ラズワルド] Lazwald: P-please . no more .. stop it already Laslow: P-please...no...more... Youre making me very uncomfortable, Selena! これ以上は もう止めて lunk? Gods, I can't believe I just did that.I Lazwald: Jeez, d-did you have to put it on full Laslow: Ah...is it really that bad when I flirt? I never meant to make a Luna: Consider this your punishment! Selena: Do you get it now? Throwing out al r going around and seducing for playing 無闇に女の子を口説いて回り those empty compliments isn't nice. And even if たずらに女心をかき乱している罰よ ! sideration they were welcome, you can't just play with around with women's hearts like it's some kind people's hearts like that! Lazwald: I-I never meant to do anything like Laslow: But that was never my intention Luna: A woman's heart is a pure and delicate thing not to be trifled with! Whether you planned to do it or not is elena: I don't care what your intentions a not your intentions that matter. It's how the とても繊細で純 なものなのよ! it ou see now You t to feel all that shame a dose of your own あんたもとくと味わえばいいのよ! 挨拶ついでに口説かれて 恥ずかしい思いをした子たちの気持ちをね! medicine! Now you know what it feels like when all those | girls get embarrassed by your flirtatio Laslow: OK! I'm sorry! I'll probably think about flirting do me the honor of helping me learn how. Over tea Lazwald: A-aahhow embarrassing . do ああああ..恥ずかし そんなに見つめないでよ…ルーナ BLANK] BLANK] im BLANK] BLANK] Laslow: Selena? Hey, I was just teasing! Come](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/097/428/b5d.png "Lazwald x Selena B support")
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