Like, I know you're going to kneejerk me and shout 'no i'm just talking about genes, you can't just sterilize someone for bad economic income that's something completely different' but…it's not. It's really not beyond the REASON for the suffering.
If your objective is to ensure that nobody is born into a life of suffering, and your method of action is sterilization, then by what logical process do you limit yourself to JUST genetics? People with drug or alcohol addictions or people who are in low income households etc are going to lead to a life of suffering as well.
Hell, quite honestly, it's more likely you can be born blind or mute and still live happily or be born mentally deficient and still live happily than you can be born into a dysfunctional, low-income household and be happy and live happily.
That's not even addressing what a gross infringement of human rights it would be. Because someone's not genetically optimum, that someone would be born with a disability, it's the 'kinder option' to spare now-nonexistent people from a 'life of suffering' by forcibly denying someone else their own right to have children and raise a family? Even if they're otherwise capable parents-for the crime of being born disabled, they're not allowed to have kids?
Because that's the 'kinder option'?
It's not kind. It's actively malevolent-it's the kind of 'greater good' shit that people will use to justify stripping rights away all the time. It's for the benefit of…someone. Now-nonexistent children, to have never been born at all rather than being born and living unhappily. It's imposing your own moral values and systems-that you would rather be DEAD than born disabled-onto someone who never even gets the chance to object to that in the first place, AND onto another, living, breathing human being who has values and opinions of their own.
For what? The betterment of society? Doing a kindness to people who can now never be consulted for their opinion because you think they would be happier to be dead than to live with a disability?
It staggers the mind how absolutely fucked up it is, and how absolutely moronic you are for not thinking it out.
Not to mention, of course-exactly where does that authority and power end? If you can forcibly sterilize people against their will, that's an incredible amount of power handed to the state-and, of course, it's a precedent now set. The same reasoning you fucking morons use any time someone gets banned for shouting nigger on an internet forum about how it's 'massive government overreach' and 'control of free speech' applies here too-you've given the government the power to sterilize people and control their right to reproduce, their right to their own bodies, their own lives. Now what? What's the check or balance on this?
How do you prevent that from growing into restricting it to people of only arbitrarily defined 'better' genes? How do you prevent it from becoming a political tool, preventing minorities or ethnic groups that don't align with your political interests from reproducing? How do you prevent the inevitable bureaucratic mishaps where someone is sterilized against their will when they shouldn't have been?
It's an absolute infringement on human rights.
It's not some 'instinct of wanting more humans', you absolute peabrained wad of pepperjack dickcheese. People are revolted at the insinuation for all of the above and more-it's a gross violation of human rights and total control of someone else's body. That you simplify it to 'instinct' so that you can stand on your moral high horse and piss down on everyone else as unintelligent instinctual people who have never given the idea any consideration because they're all horny retards who want 'more people' as compared to your oh-so-compassionate and kind proposition of forcible sterilization so that 'people aren't born into a life of suffering' is evidence enough that you are the one who has never given this idea any fucking thought whatsoever.
Of course people won't attempt an actual debate on it with the likes of you. Of course people won't attempt an actual debate on it at all. It's such an absolutely, pants-on-head, instantly moronic and abhorrent idea to ANYONE with a fucking brain cell that there's basically no reason to even TRY to engage with it in the first place. It's like listening to an antivax mom argue about how it's her right to smear human shit on her own infant's face to protect her against Bill Gates' 5G jewish space laser beams or whatever the fuck-there's no POINT even attempting to 'argue' or 'debate' with an idea that fucking idiotic beyond the initial response of 'what the FUCK is wrong with you'.
And here you are, taking that in evidence that the reason people are unwilling to debate it is because they're closed-minded, rather than that you are a FUCKING IDIOT.