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I thought it might be interesting to see what everyone believes, and how far they want their beliefs to go. Some people believe in an utopia, while others think that maintaining current standards is already a victory, and that anything further might invite extremism.

To start, since the only thing I really believe in anymore is Environmentalism, my hope is that humanity can keep climate change from raising global temperatures above 2 degrees Celsius. My greatest hope is that future generations get to enjoy the same biodiversity that is currently available to us.

Also, I saw the LGBT thread, and I felt that we might need a bit more nuance.

When it comes to global warming: Survival.
In most things survival actually

I like to subscribe to utilitarianism and egalitarianism. I don't have an end goal in either of those fields.
To mark a specific stopping point would exclude the need for active defense of equal rights against those who would take them away for the sake of power/money, or suggest that a greater good that could reach a greater amount of people cannot ever be achieved.
It's why I disagree with the concept of utopia: there will and must always be something to improve upon, lest one become complacent and allow corruption to easily take hold.

The endgame of my ideology is kind of long.
Partal list:
-Making Homestuck real
-Getting up on Spunch Bob shit
-Protecting the world from devastation
-Uniting all people within our nation
-Denouncing the evils of truth and love
-Extending our reach to the stars above
-Making the national anthem of our nation Megalovania

Goal is for co-ops to replace the hierarchical models we have.

>Easily archive or find anything long time lost things
>Bring back VHSs and analog signals since there are people who don't own modern stuff
>Create camps for kids to learn how to grow food or how to survive outside cities

I might disagree with you (heavily), but I'm happy that you laid out an actual political platform, so thank you for that.

To get the KYM Cringeworthy Gallery reopened, allow us to delete Emails, and to make sure we never have that disaster of a user interface happen ever again.

- Legalize memes

- Tariffs on low-quality seasonal anime (economy solved forever)

- Gulag TF2 bot creators and those who abuse the DMCA

- In fact fund advanced AI research to make the DMCA itself sentient so we can gulag it

- Delete Valentine's Day

- Replace gold standard with fumo standard

-Unite the world under a global theocracy that revolves around worshiping the absolute best girl: Sienna "Squigly" Contiello from Skullgirls.

-Discover extraterrestrial life for the sole purpose of hunting and killing said extraterrestrial life to extinction.

-Require that every service rifle has a M16-style carrying handle.

-Twintails will be recognized as the pinnacle of hair styles and Tuesdays and Thursdays will require everyone of sufficient hair length, regardless of sex or gender, to where their hair in un-braided twintails.

-Legalize privately owned Nuclear, Chemical and Biological weapon arsenals.

-Legalize Assault Mangoes.

-Require game devs to maintain an archive of everything they produce for preservation purposes.

-Distribute dick warmers to the people to defeat the evils of eeby deeby.

-Change all copies of Shrek and Shrek 2 to be the GameBoy Advance Video version running at a stunning 8 FPS in glorious 240×160p with heavy compression.

-Call Bob Dymball a faggot on international television.

-Make the new Global National Anthem "Fingers In Is Ass" by BotanicSage.

-All races and ethnicities will have their names changed to the appropriate slurs, because once everyone is equally racist, nobody will be.

-All public figures will be required to perform the cringiest dance possible whenever delivering a speech.

-Sieze Mike Lindell's means of production and change My Pillow to Our Pillow for the sole purpose of making a dumb Communism joke.

-Establish the Meme Police to make sure everyone's memes are dank enough.

-Those convicted of DMCA abuse will be punished via drawing a random Rule 34 tag out of a hat and then forcibly performing it on the Convict.

-Soup King and Duke O' Bruh will be forced to renounce their titles as Monarchies will be banned, they will then be allowed to pick any non-Monarchistic title they wish.

-Ban reading the first letter of every one of my ideology's true goals.

I don't even really know of what movement or ideology I belong to. I'm pretty much a guy who just lives his life akin to being like a cog in a machine of "Wake up, work, eat sleep, play, rinse and repeat." That said, some end goals I'm for:

>Better environmental protection and the like that doesn't make shit harder for us in the long run

>Better and more sustainable ways of energy. Would rather have nuclear power at the moment than having coal factories until we make stuff like wind and solar good enough that those can help places that don't need to bring in power from natural gas or nuclear

>Better health care in the US because it's literally shit.

>Reforming or Redoing structures such as law enforcement as a means to try and weed out all forms of incompetence and corruption

>Better laws related to firearms. I'm all for one being able to own an AR-15 whether its for hunting, home defense, or fun at a gun range but rather than banning them because "scary military look" I'm more for finding ways to fix loopholes and the like such as having better mental wellness checks and the like so we don't get someone wanting to shoot up a public place.

For my more shit post versions of end goals
>Nuke Norway

>Nuke Canada, blame it on Pakistan

>Ensure that we manage to genetically engineer catgirls and other types of waifus such as big tiddy goths and big mommy milkers

>Eviscerate the proletariat and violate the bourgeoisie

>Ensure a compromise with the left and right wings by culling a certain number of people on either or both sides, survivors are treated to a free meal from the grill

>Help Christine Weston Chandler ensure her dimensional merge becoming a reality

>Establish myself as mayor for life

Here are some of my definitive goals among others:

>diplomatic strangulation of the People's Republic of China

>one state solution in Israel-Palestine where Jews and non-Jews have equal rights

>ensure the long term survival of democracy in the United States

>change the pledge of allegiance to "I pledge allegiance to the pursuit of liberty, democracy, and justice for all."

>spread awareness of racism towards Asians in the United States

>spread awareness of active / potential genocides happening in the world (never again means never again)

>declare Pakistan an Axis of Evil

To create a world where all people who deserve it have an excellent quality of life and where people can live their lives as they see fit without fear of prejudice or persecution, so long as they aren't hurting others or infringing upon their freedoms.

I'm willing to support any movement of ideology that I feel best furthers those goals.

The absolute freedom to genetically engineer cat girls.

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Eh, I just want us to make it to space and colonize other worlds, effectively immortalizing the species. Can't kill us all if we're spread out on a few dozen, hundred, thousand, or million worlds.

Live Laugh Love enforced by death penalty

Take literally every toothbrush on the planet and use them to clean all the grain so that when we resurrect Stalin he can eat it all.

>regulating reproduction, not just for genetic reasons, but others as well as an abusive childhood can fuck you up as bad as bad genetics

I always figured "technocracy" as its own ideology and not a supplement to socialism or capitalism was stupid, but holy shit you're advocating for literal fucking eugenics.

You just lost any moral authority you thought you had to criticise me when you're out here advocating for literal fucking eugenics.

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