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Regarding Soyjak and Soyjak spams

Last posted Jan 30, 2021 at 03:06PM EST. Added Sep 04, 2020 at 01:33PM EDT
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albinorhino wrote:

Threads on /qa/ autosage after 1 week as we dealt with people in the past who would necro bump shit threads to keep them alive for absurdly long. This autosage feature was introduced to stop this.

The bans you are talking about were from flooding the catalog with 107 threads, half of which were probably from pissu but we won't get into that.

I genuinely want to know why you’re lashing out like this. I’m worried anon. Who hurt you?

Seriously I think spamming Soyjak is unhealthy for you.

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Square Memester wrote:

They're back again to flood the image gallery with crap-edited soyjaks.

This would be a good time to lock the gallery.

And many of those posts are identical reposts, by the way. Same entry and all. No matter how stubborn and outright in denial we get about semantics and the definition of "documentation", these would have to be removed regardless just for that, as per the rules.

…so..?

Nedhitis wrote:

And many of those posts are identical reposts, by the way. Same entry and all. No matter how stubborn and outright in denial we get about semantics and the definition of "documentation", these would have to be removed regardless just for that, as per the rules.

…so..?

They're gone.

I know this is an old news, but I managed to talk to them.

https://boards.4channel.org/qa/thread/3450691

I am 3469234, 3469373 and 3469414.

I also made a thread called KYM-r***** here.

Check out and tell me if this was a good idea……. damn, this is not going to end well.

I had a plan of raiding them. Instead I just asked them stupid questions and made things worse. I told them about that and instead of posting shitty images, they told me not to put too much guilt over myself.
I just said:" Oops, sorry. Wrong person. Let's…….just stop war."
Well, I don't know what should we do anyways with the spam. Let's just stop and see what will happen……Damn, what a pain in my ass.

Are you sure it's a good idea for albinorhino to spam wojak images? They're mostly badly edited copypastas, I can edit a much better wojak than him.

Mr. Croat wrote:

I know this is an old news, but I managed to talk to them.

https://boards.4channel.org/qa/thread/3450691

I am 3469234, 3469373 and 3469414.

I also made a thread called KYM-r***** here.

Check out and tell me if this was a good idea……. damn, this is not going to end well.

As a general rule of thumb, the best way to respond to a 4chan raid is to just ignore it.

Tumblr tried to raid 4chan once and it ended horribly for them.

Sure it's shtting up the American side of things, but just have patience and it will die by itself.

In the meantime, you can just come hang out with us Europeans for a bit. All we have to offer are Helltaker Lewds, Niche Memes and handfuls of OC.

Kekkles the Kek wrote:

Just close the wojak gallery. I'm sick of seeing 10+ wojak edits every time I scroll down into the Recent Images section.

I don't want to sound stupid, but you sound offended.

I don't care about wojaks on images because I mainly check trending images.

Wojaks are going to die anyways.

BTW, one thread had that picture of Bart looking at Waldo with Soyjak on his face and said they are not trying anymore and thread called us unoriginal.

One of them called moderators butthurts because they allow new users to post anything except soyjak ever since we found out about /qa/.

What I want to write is please, let's just ignore this for the last time. I know I will cause a big problem, but we just need to stop.

Talkie Toaster wrote:

/qa/ and most of modern 4chan is just Reddit with a blue coat of paint and a clover

What I could have wrote:
And they don't want to accept it.

Mr. Croat wrote:

Let's just go to /qa/ and chat with them.
Please, no quarreling.

No. Just, no. You'll only add more fuel to encourage 8-year-old wojak spammers from /qa/ to raid Know Your Meme, like adding more fuel to cancer.

And the only wojak spammer we got is albinorhino and he's flooding low-quality images like this one.

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So it's all fine and dandy when a meme you guys like gets spammed to death (or shit, it doesn't even have to be a real meme at all, just an image dump article like Helltakers or whatever). But you can't handle it when the site is used for its intended purpose of documenting memes (be it unpopular/hated/obscure)? Maybe they're not the problem, you guys are.

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Carrie Enright wrote:

So it's all fine and dandy when a meme you guys like gets spammed to death (or shit, it doesn't even have to be a real meme at all, just an image dump article like Helltakers or whatever). But you can't handle it when the site is used for its intended purpose of documenting memes (be it unpopular/hated/obscure)? Maybe they're not the problem, you guys are.

KYM is documents anything that has an impact to the internet, so I don't see why you're trying to say it's meme only.

You also seem to have ignored part of the forum where mods are banning accounts for spamming reposts, something that other entries don't do.

Now they are talking about you whining about having no issue with softcore anime/ furry/ real porn being uploaded, but when someone starts uploading legitimate meme en masse, you shit pants.
Just please, someone who doesn't like soyjak that much, talk to them.

Square Memester wrote:

Are you sure it's a good idea for albinorhino to spam wojak images? They're mostly badly edited copypastas, I can edit a much better wojak than him.

See, this is the problem here.

I am sorry to say, but I just can't handle this drama. I will just have to delete my account.
Note:
Please, allow users to create their own password if they forgot.
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Damn it! I click log out, but I am still logged in.

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Carrie Enright wrote:

So it's all fine and dandy when a meme you guys like gets spammed to death (or shit, it doesn't even have to be a real meme at all, just an image dump article like Helltakers or whatever). But you can't handle it when the site is used for its intended purpose of documenting memes (be it unpopular/hated/obscure)? Maybe they're not the problem, you guys are.

Being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian doesn't make you cool, Carrie. Think about why people would like to see a lot of something they like more than a lot of something they hate.

There's other reasons to look at here, too, as to why people don't like the Soyjack spam. Specifically, there's two big ones. First, unlike with most spams or floods, it's a deliberate trolling campaign, so it's not in good faith unlike art spams or obscure meme spams. Second, most posts are low-quality, low-effort, and not distinct from one another. Some other memes, like Advice Animals, have this trait as well, but as a sincere meme format these have all been left behind in the early 2010s and barely ever get even one post, much less dozens.

Spaghetto wrote:

Being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian doesn't make you cool, Carrie. Think about why people would like to see a lot of something they like more than a lot of something they hate.

There's other reasons to look at here, too, as to why people don't like the Soyjack spam. Specifically, there's two big ones. First, unlike with most spams or floods, it's a deliberate trolling campaign, so it's not in good faith unlike art spams or obscure meme spams. Second, most posts are low-quality, low-effort, and not distinct from one another. Some other memes, like Advice Animals, have this trait as well, but as a sincere meme format these have all been left behind in the early 2010s and barely ever get even one post, much less dozens.

I am confused what you are saying. Can you explain it inuch more understandable way?

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Spaghetto wrote:

Being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian doesn't make you cool, Carrie. Think about why people would like to see a lot of something they like more than a lot of something they hate.

There's other reasons to look at here, too, as to why people don't like the Soyjack spam. Specifically, there's two big ones. First, unlike with most spams or floods, it's a deliberate trolling campaign, so it's not in good faith unlike art spams or obscure meme spams. Second, most posts are low-quality, low-effort, and not distinct from one another. Some other memes, like Advice Animals, have this trait as well, but as a sincere meme format these have all been left behind in the early 2010s and barely ever get even one post, much less dozens.

Contrarianism isn't following a consistent mindset. If ALL spam of memes – regardless whether you like it or not – was bad, then make it a fucking point. Don't single out one thing and act like you're doing justice for the site when really, you look like a fool silly with a bias. The "deliberate trolling campaign" came about after you all pretended like it was a big issue and so it really is yourselves to blame by making a mountain out of an anthill.

Steve wrote:

i know, lets write an entry for this raid!

Ouch. This is going to be humiliating for KYM. 4chan is like that person that wants to irritate you to show your "true self". Attacking them won't solve problems. We can either join them or…….

Mr. Croat wrote:

Ouch. This is going to be humiliating for KYM. 4chan is like that person that wants to irritate you to show your "true self". Attacking them won't solve problems. We can either join them or…….

Or we could just

yknow

put a moratorium on soyjaks until the Redditors go somewhere else

Talkie Toaster wrote:

Or we could just

yknow

put a moratorium on soyjaks until the Redditors go somewhere else

You mean Redditors who came on 4chan like me, except they are more annoying?

Still, let's…just…STOP!

I bring good news so that everyone can catch a breather. The mods agree to a conclusion to clean up the badly low quality & crap edited wojak images but will only keep the relevant ones with more editing effort. As for the remaining /qa/ wojak spammers like albinorhino who was warned before, he's now punished with a permanent ban.

But still, keep an eye on any wojak spam accounts. If you do see one, keep this post updated so someone can alert a mod to take care of it.

Mr. Croat wrote:

This doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

If someone's shitting in the river that people use as a drinking source, is it a wise idea to allow them to continue depositing excrement there, or do you remove them from the river and perform a cleanup operation on the water?

Talkie Toaster wrote:

If someone's shitting in the river that people use as a drinking source, is it a wise idea to allow them to continue depositing excrement there, or do you remove them from the river and perform a cleanup operation on the water?

Have you heardheard of trolling?

Also, what you said counts for other things.

Just saying.

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My theory:

People here hate Soyjak because it breaks their bubble of ignorance and shows them how the world at large sees them. Standing out sharply among popular content like esoteric fetish material and the obsessed commenters who consume porn here en masse, they see something that does not affirm or encourage their distorted worldview, but instead challenges it.

They see the out-of-luck, product-obsessed, immature man as a twisted reflection of themselves. The jarring, immediate contrast of these memes among the usual light humor and obscene fanart posted to this site is enough to cause a violent reaction. Even a relatively small number of uploads per day (compared to the truly popular galleries) is enough to disrupt their sense of belonging, enough to pull them out of their extended period of blissful ignorance. How else could one gallery attract such vitriol and hatred? Why else would people go as far as deactivate their accounts and quit the site because of one gallery?

The beauty of Feels Guy/Wojak is the introspection it provokes in observers, and the solemn recognition of depression and severe loneliness thinly masked by irreverent humor. When you see a Feels Guy meme, you may recognise the pain as your own. You may feel bonded in sadness to Feels Guy and maybe even whoever made the meme you're looking at.

But not with Soyjak. With Soyjak, people may still feel personally connected to the meme. But Soyjak memes are not made to be relatable. They are made to mock those they depict. When they see themselves in Soyjak, they feel only shame and anger at being the object of such widespread ridicule, and at the portrayal of their internet exploits as pathetic wastes of time.

It's not that people hate Soyjak itself; they hate the cold, hard dose of reality it injects them with. Their elaborately-constructed suspension of shame and doubt, all destroyed by one MS Paint drawing. Like a twisted mirror image, the sense of fellowship they once felt with Feels Guy has been brutally corrupted by Soyjak.

"Same things make us laugh make us cry" – Big Smoke

Mohn wrote:

My theory:

People here hate Soyjak because it breaks their bubble of ignorance and shows them how the world at large sees them. Standing out sharply among popular content like esoteric fetish material and the obsessed commenters who consume porn here en masse, they see something that does not affirm or encourage their distorted worldview, but instead challenges it.

They see the out-of-luck, product-obsessed, immature man as a twisted reflection of themselves. The jarring, immediate contrast of these memes among the usual light humor and obscene fanart posted to this site is enough to cause a violent reaction. Even a relatively small number of uploads per day (compared to the truly popular galleries) is enough to disrupt their sense of belonging, enough to pull them out of their extended period of blissful ignorance. How else could one gallery attract such vitriol and hatred? Why else would people go as far as deactivate their accounts and quit the site because of one gallery?

The beauty of Feels Guy/Wojak is the introspection it provokes in observers, and the solemn recognition of depression and severe loneliness thinly masked by irreverent humor. When you see a Feels Guy meme, you may recognise the pain as your own. You may feel bonded in sadness to Feels Guy and maybe even whoever made the meme you're looking at.

But not with Soyjak. With Soyjak, people may still feel personally connected to the meme. But Soyjak memes are not made to be relatable. They are made to mock those they depict. When they see themselves in Soyjak, they feel only shame and anger at being the object of such widespread ridicule, and at the portrayal of their internet exploits as pathetic wastes of time.

It's not that people hate Soyjak itself; they hate the cold, hard dose of reality it injects them with. Their elaborately-constructed suspension of shame and doubt, all destroyed by one MS Paint drawing. Like a twisted mirror image, the sense of fellowship they once felt with Feels Guy has been brutally corrupted by Soyjak.

"Same things make us laugh make us cry" – Big Smoke

People never hated the quality of the Soyjaks or any meaning they may have had, they hated the quantity.

It's like the difference between eating one banana once a day for a hundred days and eating 100 bananas in a single day.

If you have something nice-ish in moderation, you are probably still going to like it in the long run. If you have anything well over any sane or sensible limit, you going to end up despising it, regardless of whether or not you liked it to begin with.

Yes and no Mr. Mohn, Soyjak is a caricature of some people to make a point or joke- you must understand that at this time the point is lost and the joke has gotten old. More people are annoyed by the repeated joke than there are people who it resembles.

Kenetic Kups wrote:

There is nothing even remotely touching on reality in soyjacks, it's nothing but stereotypes

That statement contradicts itself, stereotypes are based on some kind of truth.

Wrazid wrote:

That statement contradicts itself, stereotypes are based on some kind of truth.

But those who tell the truth need to be self-aware because they will become the thing they criticized the most.

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Since my theory is a psychological one, it's hard to prove or disprove either way, but I understand the rebuttals.

Is the issue really the number of images though? Even at its most spammy, I highly doubt the number of images could possibly ever exceed the amount of art (some of the most popular content on the site) that floods the new uploads on a daily basis. Add on to that that it's also confined (almost) exclusively to one gallery, and you should understand why I think people's anger at the images may run deeper.

There is nothing even remotely touching on reality in soyjacks, it's nothing but stereotypes

-Kenetic Kups

As Wrazid has said already, stereotypes are based on reality. But this meme especially is grounded in truth, as it originated not as a Wojak drawing but as an arguably accurate depiction of real people. Parts of the stereotype also do overlap with a decent portion of the userbase, as I described in my theory.

I didn't say stereotypes were based on reality, I said they were based on truth.
For example: The Welsh had a stereotype for being sheep shaggers but in reality they were just stealing the sheep, whenever caught though they would claim that 'they were f*cking the sheep' because stealing had a harsher punishment than zoophilia back then.

Wrazid wrote:

I didn't say stereotypes were based on reality, I said they were based on truth.
For example: The Welsh had a stereotype for being sheep shaggers but in reality they were just stealing the sheep, whenever caught though they would claim that 'they were f*cking the sheep' because stealing had a harsher punishment than zoophilia back then.

Oops, my mistake. Well, my point still stands.

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