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Why does the Islamic religion consider it taboo to artistically depict the prophet Muhammed?

Last posted May 08, 2015 at 03:14AM EDT. Added May 05, 2015 at 11:02PM EDT
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Just a question I felt like asking here as I know we have some Muslim members on this site, and I want to hear from a Muslim on this subject.

So yeah, one of the reasons why this has me so curious is not just because of controversies both past and recent regarding artists (satirical or not) getting into a lot of hot water over doing drawings of the Muslim prophet Muhammad, some of which sadly leading to events of violence from extremists, but also because lately I've noticed it seems like Islam is the only major religion (correct me if I'm wrong) to have such a taboo. Hindus have no problems building statues depicting their deities, Christian artists have actually been encouraged to artistically depict Jesus and God for years now with there being some very famous works of art depicting said figures, and I have come across artwork that is more than 1000+ years old showing depictions of the prophet Muhammad that seemed to originate out of places in the Middle East where Islam is most common, plus I did read somewhere that the Quran itself does not actually forbid artistic depictions of Muhammad.

I mean sure I understand Muslims being upset by artistic depictions of Muhammad that don't feature him in a pleasant light, Christians are the same way with Jesus and God (the film "The Last Temptation of Christ" caught a lot of flak from Christians for portraying Jesus as having a moment of weakness, and the Slayer album "Christ Illusion" got banned in some countries for featuring cover artwork of a mutilated zombie Jesus), but to my understanding it seems Islam in general finds any and all artistic depictions, even positive ones, taboo.

Last edited May 05, 2015 at 11:03PM EDT

It all comes back to Hadist. The Prophet made a command to never have a depiction of his face in any form of imagery. The main reason so that people would not used his imagery as a symbol for idolitary as at the time, he was worried with how Christianity viewed Jesus with his images.
Muslims in general (including myself) are very protective when it comes to the imagery of The Prophet, not just Muhammad PBuH but also other Prophets recognize by Islam in general. This is reflected with Many islamic comic books that depicts The Prophets as either a ball of light with their arabic names written on them or as a robed figure with their faces covered.
An insult to The Prophet to a muslim is hitting the nerves of their religion. So if you have any plans to make a mockery of muslims, anything is open EXCEPT The Prophet. (I have to admit, i'm pretty amuse with the bombing and ISIS jokes going around. Unexpected Jihad is a bit weird but i'm okay with it.)
Since this is also about the issue of Free Speech, all i can say is Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Thanks for the answer Samekichi, I was not aware Muhammad himself was the one who did not wish to have his face depicted in any artwork.

But still I think we can all agree that making fun of the central figures of any major religion will strike a nerve with the followers of said religion. I just wish there were more cases where those who take issue with how a central religious figure is portrayed in a piece of fictional media did so in a calm manner, rather than extremists resorting to, well, extreme measures. And no I'm not singling out Muslims, I've maintained ever since 9/11 "we should not judge all Muslims for the actions of a few extremists." For example extremist Christianity lead to the Crusades, where many Christians killed people they called "heathens" all in the name of God (bunch of idiots forgetting the Ten Commandments, clearly, says right in there "thou shalt not kill").

I kinda find it ironic for some people for being against the idolitary, but yet turning the anti idoliatrism into an another idolitarism without even noticing.
I clearly understand the frustration and understand why muslims clearly don’t find it acceptable. But why so hostile about this?
I really don’t understand.

­­­Alex Mercer wrote:

I kinda find it ironic for some people for being against the idolitary, but yet turning the anti idoliatrism into an another idolitarism without even noticing.
I clearly understand the frustration and understand why muslims clearly don’t find it acceptable. But why so hostile about this?
I really don’t understand.

I think I understand what you are saying. By having this situation in which certain groups of radical Muslims are so violently against artistic depictions of Muhammad, it creates this situation in which it feels like Muhammad's status is seen as being a "sacred cow" type of figure which non-Muslims perceive as being similar to that of a deity. Muhammad did not wish to be seen as an idol, but when extremist people who call themselves followers of the religion he helped create treat him with regard to a level almost similar to that of how Christians treat Jesus, to the minds of non-Muslims it's almost like he might as well be a deity.

Why do extremists go to such extreme levels when they take offense towards artistic depictions of Muhammad? Well that I can't answer. Not only am I not Muslim (I consider myself a non-denominational Christian), but the minds of Muslim extremists are not the same as the majority of most Muslims. I'm sure many a calm headed Muslim would object to artistic depictions of Muhammad by calmly explaining why they feel this is offensive towards their religion, but why an extremist would go so far as to try and commit murder, I do not know.

Again remember extremists exist in all religions, the only reason why Muslim extremism is such a big thing in the news ever since 9/11 is because, unfortunately, some sects of extremists Muslims have come into possession of the means to commit violent acts. These sects are merely a minority among Muslims, which has billions of followers worldwide, but again unfortunately these violent groups are a "vocal minority." They don't represent the majority, but because they speak the loudest they are the ones getting all of the attention.

@Ms Fortune

Although an act of violence should only be done as a last resort, the equivalent of insulting the prophet would be the equivalent of insulting one's mother. He does not deserve to be worshipped, but he is very close to the hearts of billions of Muslims. Of-course no one is closer to the heart of a muslim than god but he would come second place. If one were to draw your mother it would be pretty uncomfortable, but if one were to slander your mother as a warlord it would be enraging.

But personally, I find it to be a minor inconvenience that you can't portray Muhammad (SAW) since a Battle of Badr movie would have been awesome. But nevertheless God considers the worship of idols to be the worst sin according to the qur'an.(keep in mind drawing the prophet is not idolatry but it risks idolatry)

[4:48] GOD does not forgive idolatry,* but He forgives lesser offences for whomever He wills. Anyone who sets up idols beside GOD, has forged a horrendous offence.

So Muslims would rather not take the risk of committing the worst sin and believe it or not this idolatry has already happened (to a very small minority). 12 imamers or simply twelvers are a shi'ite sect that worship the companions of Muhammad (SAW) I will not go in too much detail you can look it up.

Last edited May 06, 2015 at 02:28PM EDT

I'd like to add a couple extra points to Samekichi and Eurofighter's points about the matter. I am not Muslim, so my perspective is an outside one. I'd still like to think of myself as a religiously aware person however: for that reason, I get frustrated at the blatant baiting that people do when they draw Mohammed.

When we're talking about issues like this, it's imperative not to use general terms like "Christian" and "Muslim" because there are specific sects and ideologies within these religions that promote such actions: the purest and oldest expressions of these religions do not.

What I mean by that is something like this. In Christianity, you have a split between Catholics and the many branches of Protestants. The Catholics come from a very old and continuous theological tradition that has been built and investigated constantly since days of Saint Peter. The epistles of Paul inform the writings of Jerome and Augustine; Jerome and Augustine inform the monasticism, mysticism, and other philosophical revelations of the Medieval period; these revelations inform the insights of men like St. Thomas Aquinas, who then informs the early modern thinkers like Saint Ignatius Loyola, founder of the Jesuits. The tradition has been an unbroken chain from the apostles of Christ to modern theologians like Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI).

In Protestantism, conversely, you have a break from this theological tradition; men like Martin Luther sought to take Christianity away from clergy and give it to the masses. Thus, individual interpretation of the Bible became more important among many Protestant sects than the religious tradition: this trend sew the seeds of what we now call moral relativism. This Protestant emphasis on personal interpretation, in addition to the benefits of its liberality, also runs the risk of allowing demagogues and manipulators to latch onto literalist interpretations of the Bible and use the to propagate hate. If a Catholic made that "Kill the F****t" game, the hierarchy of the Church would call him out on his manipulation of Christianity and maybe even excommunicate him. Because he adheres to a more relativist Christianity, he can spin the Old Testament and Gospels any way he wants without reproach from a higher authority.

Now take this lesson and apply it to Islam. The traditions of Islam stem from two major religious texts: the Quran and the Hadith. Both of these sacred texts were preserved orally for the first few centuries after the death of Mohammed and took a while to be be set in stone. While the Quran is a continuous document, the Hadith is more contested. Simply put, it is a collection of public declarations from the Prophet and Islamic law edicts (Sharia) spanning multiple centuries. The enormously complex and manuscript tradition of the Hadith means that the exact nature of Islamic Law is somewhat… open to interpretation.

Over the last several centuries, the clerics of Islam spent lifetimes learning the Hadith and advocating from different theological schools how to apply the Hadith appropriately to everyday life among Muslim peoples. Interpretations differ among the Sunni and Shi'a most drastically, but there are subdivisions even among these two sects that have further interpretation differences.

Enter Wahhabism. Al-Wahhab was an early modern theologian from the Arabian peninsula who argued a literalism interpretation of Islamic Law, meaning every word on the page had to be followed: no metaphors, no symbolism, no allegories: the words on the page in his sect's manuscripts of the Quran and Hadith needed to be followed to the letter. I brought up Protestantism earlier because this is like the Creationist Approach (Catholics cannot be Creationists): because Genesis says the Earth was made in seven days, to them it was made in seven days: no way that could have been a metaphor to them. Thus, if a Wahhabi sees "kill people for depicting Mohammed" somewhere in the Islamic religious/legal texts, then they'll use that passage to justify their killings even if that passage was part of a metaphor or something like that.

The Ottomans and Qajar Persians, the two dominant Muslim nations of Al-Wahhab's time, both viewed this Wahhabi ideology as extreme at the least and heretical at most. For a couple centuries after Al-Wahhab, the ideology remained small and niche.

Then, the House of Saud came to dominate the Arabian Peninsula and along the way, they took up the Wahhabi doctrine as their state religion. With the insane amount of money flowing into their country from international oil trade and the renting of land for business, the Wahhabi House of Saud dedicated some of their wealth to building Wahhabi mosques and propagating Wahhabi literature throughout the world.

When the USSR invaded Afghanistan, it wasn't just the USA who sold them arms and provided them with military training; while the USA just provided the hardware and political support, the Saudis brought the Mujahideen their Wahhabi ideology as well. Fighters from Saudi Arabia also went to volunteer and help out in the fight against communism and when the Soviets were beaten, they left with Afghan notions of militancy. Among these fighters was a particularly evil man, none other than Bin Laden himself.

The Wahhabi extremists of Saudi Arabia have funded and provided the ideological basis for groups like Al-Quaeda and ISIS; these extremists essentially stem from the most extreme logical result of Wahhabism. Furthermore, while traditional Islam adheres to the wisdom of (mostly apolitical as I understand) lifelong clerics, many foundational Wahhabi thinkers were engineers and other STEM professionals who then brought their literalism to religion, depriving it of abstract concepts like mercy and pursuit of the good and making it all about brutal adherence to the laws.

These terrorist groups basically use misinterpreted selections of the Islamic religious/legal tradition to excuse their terror tactics as they attempt to carve out a larger sphere of influence for themselves. The reason why most of the rest of the Muslim community doesn't fall in with this thinking is because they mainly aren't textual literalists and have more interest in living their own lives in pursuit of the good rather than forcing their religion on others.

Again, this is the opinion of a third party. I consider myself Christian with a bias in favor of Catholicism and I have a very limited education about the Muslim world, so this is by no means the assessment of an expert. I'd appreciate any feedback from practicing Muslims if I've gotten anything wrong.

@kourosh kabir

And feedback is what you get.

What you have to bare in mind is that the Qur'an is far superior to a hadith. Because some hadiths are unauthentic. Meaning some will come from unreliable accounts. You can interpret the Qur'an literally, you just have to know the narration context surrounding a few verses. Everyone knows the "Kill them where ever you find them" verses but if you read them in context they would sound a lot different. You will find that most of them describe the Qureysh Muslim battles Where Qureysh tribe attacked first against the Muslims in Badr after the Muslims dishonoured laat and uzza (polytheistic gods).

The Hadiths are basically historical accounts of early islam in general. But some accounts are far more questionable. There is an ongoing debate about whether aisha started a war against Ali Ibn Abi Talib in the "Battle Of the Camel". It is very likely she didn't intentionally betrayed the sahabi because they were both very close allies of Muhammad (SAW). This all comes from the historical accounts of shaykh al-mufid. Shaykh al-mufid likely slandered aisha.

TLDR: Hadiths are unreliable and you can take The Qur'an literally along with good narrational context and common sense.

I'm not a Muslim myself but it still really bothers me when people draw the Prophet and then flip shit when there's a violent reaction. In pretty much every case they knew perfectly well that their actions would be considered incredibly offensive to Muslims and that it would likely provoke a violent reaction from extremists, and yet they continued to do it anyway. That's like poking a bear with a stick and then acting shocked and appalled when the bear attacks you.

But the question is…are Muslims taught to be offended by depictions of Mohammed or does it come naturally for them?

I also heard that some branches of Islam don't remind the pics. Is that true?

Evilthing wrote:

But the question is…are Muslims taught to be offended by depictions of Mohammed or does it come naturally for them?

I also heard that some branches of Islam don't remind the pics. Is that true?

Muslims aren't taught to be offended it does come naturally. As I've responded to Ms Fortune i have made an analogy about Muhammad (SAW) being close to the heart of a Muslim as a mother is close to the heart of anyone.

It's the extention of a rule that dates back to the Old Testament. Any depiction could be considered a graven image. Christians have put that rule aside but Jews and Muslims have not.

"Muslims aren’t taught to be offended it does come naturally."

How can that even be possible? What, is it inherent in their genes? It's obviously taught in the same way that religion itself is taught. It's not explicitly taught, but nothing in religious thought is "natural" in the sense that it just happens without any pedagogy.

rikameme wrote:

It's the extention of a rule that dates back to the Old Testament. Any depiction could be considered a graven image. Christians have put that rule aside but Jews and Muslims have not.

"Muslims aren’t taught to be offended it does come naturally."

How can that even be possible? What, is it inherent in their genes? It's obviously taught in the same way that religion itself is taught. It's not explicitly taught, but nothing in religious thought is "natural" in the sense that it just happens without any pedagogy.

In Islam it is taught that we should not depict the Prophet on the basis of preventing idolatry. We really aren't taught to actually get offended.

Basically what Eurofighter's saying is that although we aren't to encouraged take such offence at non-Muslims who are doing this, you can expect people who take this very seriously to do so. At least that's my interpretation of it.

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