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It infuriates me to think about Atheism, regarding the creation of the universe it's quite clear that by looking at Cosmic Background Radiation that the big bang created the Universe. And Atheists will claim a triumph over Christianity, this is exactly what happened with the Earth being the center of the universe, anyone who went to school can tell you that there's more to the Universe than our solar system.

But I digress I came to speak about the creation of the big bang. To a Christian (Or person of any religion) it would be clear that God created the big bang, however Atheists don't have that option they have to devise methods of creating something before there was anything, a common theory is M-theory….something that is unprovable and undisprovable, it's incredible that so many Scientists believe in this, this is basically a Religion of Science, that doesn't even have the ampliative proof Christianity has in history.

If you were to read Isaiah 45:12 you would read "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, [even] my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded." this is a book thousands of years ago saying that the universe is expanding!

And yet Atheists go around calling the very notion of a deity abserd, College proffesors have been fired for simply suggesting that Theism be discussed in College, because clearly these College students aren't capable of thinking for themselves, and might get brainwashed even though it's a discussion that would probably lean towards the Atheist side.

Every time an Atheist talks about a "Flying Spaghetti Monster" it's just pathetic, how can you be so desperate to get out of a serious discussion as to call a person's beliefs a Flying Spaghetti Monster. I don't hate Atheists, infact I love the honest discussion of Religion, Atheists often having more to offer than a Religious person would, I hate the Atheists who have conditioned themselves into hating religion as a whole, and refuse to even discuss it if it's not a hateful circlejerk that even Reddit would gawk at. And many people being discriminating against in STEM fields based on their Religious believes.

TL;DR

Atheists believe in something unproveable and undisprovable, and yet God is still a non-existant flying Spaghetti monster to them.

I felt like this was a good place to drop my rant, tell me what you think, and don't worry I just needed to vent after seeing the youtube comment sections, I'll be nicer in my responses. :3

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Your mom was a flawed belief last night :)

How can atheists be real if God isn't real?

Atheists?

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Haha this must be you because you don't put your faith in something and use logic and evidence to come a conclusion about how the universe is.

Atheists are so dumb and they are always mean to us pure innocent Christians. I bet they have no life. Hahaha I showed them by posting a picture of a hat and someones choice of facial hair.

It's official. The fedora has gotten bored of atheists and now changed hands over to the Christians.

This isn't the first time the Fedora has switched sides and it won't be the last for this obesity and neckbeard inducing turncoat

@this whole site

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If God exists, why did He make ugly people?

Ask ur mom

Honestly, I'm agnostic, so I can't really say anything definitive about the issue. But I'll chime in a few of my thoughts.

First off, the out-group homogeneity effect means that it's natural and easy for us to refer to groups of people that oppose your beliefs in more of an abstract sense that's easier to demonize, rather than a collection of unique individuals like the people in your own group. That's why the gay some atheists embrace the belief of the stereotype of the biogted homophobic Christian created by a vocal minority of Christians and why some Christians embrace the belief of the stereotype of the condescending anti-religious neck-beard atheist. The list goes on for pretty much every existing group, including those defined by politics (i.e. republican or democrat), ideology (i.e. feminism), religion, nation, ethnicity, race, age, sex, profession, sexual orientation, etc. So yeah, 99%, the stereotype of a group really only applies to a vocal minority.

Secondly, the thinly-veiled insult of holy texts being "fairytales" may be an exaggeration of the average atheist's beliefs, but it isn't a total lie either. It's more like they believe it's the modern day-equivalent of folklore. I feel like it's safe to say that in the vast majority of non-radical cases, their belief is not that religion is always a lie made to control people, but rather metaphors or errors in observation that were believed to be true, that changed over centuries by becoming more about life's unanswered questions and fantastic supernatural events. And could you totally blame someone for simply doubting the authenticity of these holy texts; not only are there not only holy texts for most major religions that claim that it is the only valid one, there are multiple versions of each holy text. I mean, considering how they were all transcribed many times over over generations and languages and the occasional person with an agenda, it's not 100% crazy talk to question if a perfect preservation of the text is even possible, especially considering the audience of today has such a different way of thinking of things than the audience of the first edition.

Thirdly, for most atheists, their "faith" works a little differently. Instead of wholehearted, passionate conviction, it's about detached and logical evaluations about what can be reasonably considered true beyond a reasonable doubt, given the current evidence available. All almost atheists would say that their belief of a lack of deities isn't due to absolute proof or faith, but rather a lack of compelling evidence, at least from their perspective. Some go even further and also claim that there is enough evidence, in their view, for one to reasonably come to a logical conclusion that deities could not exist. In both cases, it doesn't matter that it hasn't been proven, they've just chosen to believe what they find the most reasonable argument.

The last, and most important thing, I think, about this issue, is the issue of falsifiability. If it's impossible, by definition, to prove if something is true or false through observation and induction, such as the idea that the universe was created two seconds ago and all our memories are fake, or a deity that refuses to prove its own existence directly (i.e. so that they can quantify the features of it, such as it's mass, height, etc.) then 9/10 of the time, Occam's Razor says it is illogical to believe it. The reason that it doesn't apply to their beliefs is they choose to be limited to evidence that is measurable and their arguments have been peer-reviewed to be logical, so falsifiability isn't an issue for the belief in the probability that their beliefs are wrong is low enough for them to be comfortable asserting it as true.

Anyway, that's my interpretation of things, although I could very well be misinterpreting some views, so any atheists or theists should feel free to correct me on anything. But please don't shoot the messenger. I have trouble believing in anything if even ANY doubt remains, no matter how ridiculously tiny, so I can't really say I can proclaim much of anything in this whole debate on religion, other than "I don't know." I mean, my Mormon parents could be right, the atheist friend I know could be right, ISIS could be right (though I believe their chance of being right is extremely incredibly low), or nobody could be right. Heck, we could all be right or wrong at the same time, somehow, or maybe some option other than any combination of right and wrong and the values in between the two. Like, maybe everyone's XGDSDVS but we can't comprehend XGDSDVS because IUTOIJO hasn't happened yet and we don't know what IUTOIJO is because it hasn't happened yet. And I don't mean this in a mocking "spaghetti monster" sort of way, this is what I actually 100% believe COULD be possible, since, like I said, I don't know.

Lol the fuck you talking about?

As an Agnostic, I believe that…

Sees that the thread is in Riff Raff and not in Serious Debate

Lol that's your problem m8!

How can god be real if our memes aren't real?

So I was standing in a rather large line at my local Wal-Mart today behind a couple families that I know from when I went to church with my family in year younger. It was the only register open so there wasn't much of another option to get my 12 pack of Mountain Dew for a party I was heading to. I was wondering why the line was going nowhere when I decided to poke my head up front to see what the holdup was. It was a little old lady who didn't have enough for her groceries and she was trying to talk the cashier into letting her get away with being short. This struck me as odd until I found out she was a mere $0.21 short of her purchase. Now all these families were just staring and there was even two making fun of her. I walked up and handed my soda to the cashier, handed him a $5 and told her to keep the change. One of the middle aged women (I knew these people, so I also knew that they all make over 6 digits) grabbed her kid and yelled very loudly, "See that man? He's acting just like Jesus wants us to." For some reason this set me off, so I turned around. I haven't shaved in awhile so I'm rocking some nice scruff, a Slayer shirt, and gym shorts, so it must have been a nice sight. Very loudly, I said "Like Jesus? Ma'am I'm an atheist who makes minimum wage and I was the one who stepped up to help her? Your hypocritical Christianity is an inspiration to us all." As I stormed out, a couple of the cart boys started to whistle and cheer, soon shoppers joined in and even the cashier. I gave a wave and went off with a feeling of accomplishment.

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College proffesors have been fired for simply suggesting that Theism be discussed in College, because clearly these College students aren’t capable of thinking for themselves, and might get brainwashed even though it’s a discussion that would probably lean towards the Atheist side.