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I'm excited for the 2020s

Last posted Aug 31, 2019 at 02:36PM EDT. Added Aug 16, 2019 at 09:27PM EDT
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This is a topic I've pondered time and time again, and I figured now would be a good time to discuss it. See, today most savvy internet users claim stuff like "current year bad" or "this trend needs to die." Trends like minimalism and bean-mouth come to my mind.

Now here's the thing. Trends always come and go. And if there's one thing I'm really ready for, it's the next big thing. I'm really interested in the potential renaissance that media or the Internet could go through in the next couple years. Some may argue that we currently live in an Internet dark age, and some pessimists claim that the Internet will never be good again, but that just further proves my point. If anything, a dark age is almost always followed by a renaissance.

One big common trend I've seen this year in particular is the increase in noise between consumer and corporation. When a corporation does something that their consumers don't agree with, they'll really try to speak up. Examples off the top of my head include #BringBackNationalDex and the 2018 YouTube Rewind. Why is this a good thing? Because it tells me that people want change. They are ready for change. The most important thing to be aware of with generational shifts is the concept of counter-culture. Compare the colorful, radical tone of the 80s, to the brash, rebellious tone of the mid-to-late 90s, to the clean, futuristic tone of the early 2000s. Counter-culture is important because it helps shape the next generation, and the next one after that.

Another thing I would at least like to bring to light is a new renaissance in Japanese media. The Olympics next year are being held in Tokyo. And if you've been paying attention, Anime and Japanese-developed video games are hitting new strides on the internet and in pop culture. Compare offerings such as Breath of the Wild, Persona 5, or Nier Automata to Battlefront II EA or Anthem. Which group of games do you feel people speak about in a more positive light? If anything, Japan favoring more complete experiences is good for the industry. In the 80s and 90s, Japan held a major stronghold on the video game industry (Nintendo, Sega, Sony), and most video game companies developed using the Japanese mindset. If Japan continues their uphill stride, maybe Western developers like Activision and gasp! EA, may change their mindset.

And before you give me the "The world will never be good again" card, here's the thing, you need to realize that at one point, things will get better. It's just a matter of "when", not "if." Do you think people thought the world would ever pick itself up again during The Great Depression, or World War II?

I'd like to see what you're excited about with the 2020s, and if you have any hopes or predictions yourself!

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Kenetic Kups wrote:

People can complain all they want, corps just get bigger, and lazier
and they own the politicians
so it’s just going to get worse

For gods sake, stop being so negative all the time!

I don't think things will get better dramatically quickly, inch by inch. These trying times just feel so stagnant and exhausting. Things don't feel like they're really getting any better, they feel more different. I can get excited for X, but it doesn't compare to X if it were in 2008-2012, when everything at the same time was getting better.

Kenetic Kups wrote:

People can complain all they want, corps just get bigger, and lazier
and they own the politicians
so it’s just going to get worse

When are you gonna do this site a favor and quarantine your pop-cynic ass?

JC's right, everyday we come closer to collectives like The Mouse and those pulling strings behind the big social media platforms having almost complete control over our hobbies and discussion in order to make low effort and practically obligated cashgrabs, and as much as we here might cry out against any shenanigans an obese developer might do, the fact remains that we are usually the minority who hardly put a dent in profits. That’s Sword and Shield game looks like ass sundae, and while many of us know better than to support it, the majority who don’t even know that there’s a controversy about it will still buy it and encourage another lazy cycle
I’ve noticed way too many people embracing apathy in the face of bullshit too, as if just ignoring a problem in favor of wanking it to an anime child or playing some vidya in defiance is going to make it all go away

I think we're at a tipping point as a society, pardon the philosophical musings, on the edge of nihilism and widespread change. You've got peeps like JC and Artichoke who pride themselves on being aware of all the negative shit in the world and have no time to cheer up over anything vs. OP who is well aware that the world is actually getting pretty damn good and in a better place now than it was years ago. Good ol' days fallacy and all (Certainly, the good ol' days back when we were on the verge of nuclear war every day with Russia and the worst we had to worry about was a mass economic depression rather than corporations tightening their fists while people protest that in growing quantity)
2020s gonna be a tipping point, when all that falls in on itself and people gotta move forward from there. Could be positive, could be negative, could be a mix of both like life usually is. I think the worst thing we gotta worry about is outdated ideals and values that we think can continue to apply into modern times as things change further and further and just the extent of change people are willing to accept. Not specifying really entirely what that change could be cuz IDK. Could be AI, could be corporate limitations setting in, could be corporations becoming full on dictators and people having to rebel against that. Could be left and right finally explode into a civil war or just start to go silent as we focus on bigger issues.
TL;DR My stance is 2020s are ambiguous as fuck right now. Anything could happen as far as I see it, and it makes me a mix of excited and deeply frightened. Huge personal life changes alongside huge media and social changes all happening at once really have me thinking that adaptability is gonna be an important skill going forward. Not saying "THE FIRE RISES" or some Bane shit like that is gonna happen, but I will say it could be anything from "business as usual" to "Nothing is the same anymore".

Kenetic Kups wrote:

Yes, i should just shut up and pretned everything is ok, that’s gonna make everything better
/s

The only one pretending here is you. Specifically, pretending that the current growth of corporate influence is not simply another trend that will sputter out and die like it did a century ago.

Arcadenblog wrote:

When were in danger of fighting Russia?

Cold War. AKA That time where we all worried about nukes dropping when we least expect it that lasted throughout the 70s and into the 90s before the iron curtain finally fell. Hate when people reminisce like it was so much better back then when one bad slip up could've meant an oopsie big enough that half the world would be dead.

Artichoke wrote:

JC's right, everyday we come closer to collectives like The Mouse and those pulling strings behind the big social media platforms having almost complete control over our hobbies and discussion in order to make low effort and practically obligated cashgrabs, and as much as we here might cry out against any shenanigans an obese developer might do, the fact remains that we are usually the minority who hardly put a dent in profits. That’s Sword and Shield game looks like ass sundae, and while many of us know better than to support it, the majority who don’t even know that there’s a controversy about it will still buy it and encourage another lazy cycle
I’ve noticed way too many people embracing apathy in the face of bullshit too, as if just ignoring a problem in favor of wanking it to an anime child or playing some vidya in defiance is going to make it all go away

Well what if you actually like what they're putting out?

Marsicle wrote:

The only one pretending here is you. Specifically, pretending that the current growth of corporate influence is not simply another trend that will sputter out and die like it did a century ago.

It never died, it’s been growing since the 1800s with only a small respute in the early 1900s before disgareeing with the corps made you the bad guy

Trollanort wrote:

I think we're at a tipping point as a society, pardon the philosophical musings, on the edge of nihilism and widespread change. You've got peeps like JC and Artichoke who pride themselves on being aware of all the negative shit in the world and have no time to cheer up over anything vs. OP who is well aware that the world is actually getting pretty damn good and in a better place now than it was years ago. Good ol' days fallacy and all (Certainly, the good ol' days back when we were on the verge of nuclear war every day with Russia and the worst we had to worry about was a mass economic depression rather than corporations tightening their fists while people protest that in growing quantity)
2020s gonna be a tipping point, when all that falls in on itself and people gotta move forward from there. Could be positive, could be negative, could be a mix of both like life usually is. I think the worst thing we gotta worry about is outdated ideals and values that we think can continue to apply into modern times as things change further and further and just the extent of change people are willing to accept. Not specifying really entirely what that change could be cuz IDK. Could be AI, could be corporate limitations setting in, could be corporations becoming full on dictators and people having to rebel against that. Could be left and right finally explode into a civil war or just start to go silent as we focus on bigger issues.
TL;DR My stance is 2020s are ambiguous as fuck right now. Anything could happen as far as I see it, and it makes me a mix of excited and deeply frightened. Huge personal life changes alongside huge media and social changes all happening at once really have me thinking that adaptability is gonna be an important skill going forward. Not saying "THE FIRE RISES" or some Bane shit like that is gonna happen, but I will say it could be anything from "business as usual" to "Nothing is the same anymore".

The main issue is, that we stopped progressing in the 2000s
the only positive change we’ve had since then is more accpetance of lgbt people
racism is getting far worse, both the left and right want to censor everything

One thing that sure will happen in the 2020's is more attempts to control/monitor the Internet, either by the tech companies (facebook's ban to hate speech pages, tumblr porn purge, google's "project veritas", Cambridge Analitica) or by politics (SOPA/PIPA, Article 13). I will not be surprised if by the next decade the preferred platform to host any kind of content on the web would be Tor or Usenet…

Kenetic Kups wrote:

The main issue is, that we stopped progressing in the 2000s
the only positive change we’ve had since then is more accpetance of lgbt people
racism is getting far worse, both the left and right want to censor everything

>racism is getting far worse

By what possible metric?

>both the left and right want to censor everything

They always have.

Arcadenblog wrote:

To be honest, I'm not sure how I should respond to the replies in this thread.

I mean, what's wrong with having a sense of optimism?

Nothing, personally I'm more excited for the 2030's. The USAAF is supposed to come out with new bombers by then and so far the B-21 looks like we're going back to building them big and fast, just how I like them!

Arcadenblog wrote:

To be honest, I'm not sure how I should respond to the replies in this thread.

I mean, what's wrong with having a sense of optimism?

Nothing wrong with it, the only thing is that you gotta consider the context for all these replies. You'll notice many posters in here rather active on the politically charged and controversial articles on the site, or dealing with discourse and arguments often. To which their focus is gonna be more on (to oversimplify if only to make a point) the negative, or the plague upon the world, yadda yadda.
Besides, nobody can predict the future for real. 2020 could be the entire opposite of literally anything anyone said here. It's all spitballing in the end, no matter how much data we can amass or internet wisdom/charisma we flaunt to back it up. Hence, being optimistic for it is just as valid as being cynical about it. Nobody here is really right or wrong, your stance just isn't as shared or backed by like minded people. TL;DR nothing is wrong with optimism, just for other people here disagree with that for their own reasons and personal beliefs etc. etc. and will rally behind whatever they feel justifies that.

Next year will be a great year for people who are interested in animation films. Along with Pixar's "Onward" and "Soul," Disney revealed at D23 that a new original animation film, "Raya and the Last Dragon," will be released on November 2020. Here are some tweets from the Disney Studios Twitter regarding the movie:




2020 is going to be a tough political decade imo. 2020s are going to be the decade when the reality of the US debt problem coupled with an unsustainable welfare model will become evident. And while we have an entire party dedicating to expanding the welfare system, and with it, the over-all debt that comes with such a system, the late 2020s will challenge, to it's fullest, the strength of such welfare systems. To put it into perspective, our interest on the debt by 2029 would be as high as our current military spending. Just the interest alone, and the interest is an obligation that if we fail to pay can have unbelievably devastating consequences. Fun times.

With the 2020's being on the horizon, I have a mix of optimism and pessimism. On one hand, there could be various possibilities where things can get better be it technological improvements, societal improvements be it for my country or for others, etc. for the positive note. On the other hand with the pessimism, the 2020 election in the US is bound to become yet another shit storm, especially when the political divides become greater and all. While societies improve, things won't always be the best for those that aren't financially well-off and the like. And then I hear about how we have natural resources that are getting thinner everyday which is scary though I wonder how much could be me overreacting and how much is genuine concern to things like drinkable water and the like. It all reminds me of a thread on another forum that talked about the 2000's, where one user mentioned being cautiously optimistic or just cautious with 2020.

To tl;dr this in English: Can't wait to see what 2020 has in store for us all and to brace for whatever problems it brings.

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