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Pornhub may replace Youtube.

Last posted Apr 09, 2018 at 03:15AM EDT. Added Apr 01, 2018 at 11:00PM EDT
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No this isn't a April's fool joke. Apparently the past couple of years and specifically the past couple of months google has pissed off their userbase to such a extent that pornhub is now the 18th most visited site in the USA. Pornhub's statement on the idea that they might replace Youtube is that they're not against it, but rather they're worried if they offer a section specifically for non-porn videos the amount of traffic it would generate would crash the site.

I'd be down for that, cause Pornhub has one of the nicest communities and their admins aren't dicks.

But the question is: Can the site become too popular for its own good?

Remember how Reddit replaced Digg but the popularity caused it to become corrupt and neutered?

Last edited Apr 01, 2018 at 11:06PM EDT

While PornHub has a really nice community, if PornHub replaced YouTube then a lot of the YouTube community would transition thus making the community just as toxic.

Preferably, toxicity will stay in the non-porn section and hopefully the PornHub staff can eventually get more control over the new users and potentially keep the community healthy and enjoyable.

The Cute Master :3 wrote:

Finally! A valid excuse to watch pornhub in public. 🙃

Which would be harder to explain watching pornhub for? Watching porn or watching mlp? /bantz

Last edited Apr 02, 2018 at 01:10AM EDT

Particle Mare wrote:

Porn is actually profitable, YouTube has never been. If the optimization geeks at Google can't make financially sustainable SFW video-sharing, I doubt Pornhub can.

Relying on ads isn't financially sustainable with how many people use adblock.

Hasn't YouPorn once tried to start their own esports team? IIRC they called it Team YP, but they eventually shut down the idea because even though the team itself was in no way associated with porn, they still couldn't find any sponsors, because no one besides porn companies wanted to be associated with a team that is owned by a porn company.
I can see something like that happening here too. Even if PornHub runs their SFW videos on a completely separate site, they'll still have a difficulty to get companies to advertise on it. And considering that even Google can't keep their advertisers on YouTube, I don't imagine PornHub's site would be in any way profitable.

Too bad there's still stigma around porn (and even swear words). If that was absent, it would allow more freedom for content creators without fear of losing sponsorship.

Krupam the Oldfag wrote:

Hasn't YouPorn once tried to start their own esports team? IIRC they called it Team YP, but they eventually shut down the idea because even though the team itself was in no way associated with porn, they still couldn't find any sponsors, because no one besides porn companies wanted to be associated with a team that is owned by a porn company.
I can see something like that happening here too. Even if PornHub runs their SFW videos on a completely separate site, they'll still have a difficulty to get companies to advertise on it. And considering that even Google can't keep their advertisers on YouTube, I don't imagine PornHub's site would be in any way profitable.

Again: the primary way Youporn gets their revenue is through subscriptions.

Pornhub already offers video memes, just try searching for we are number one or nutshack vids.

This is only the next logical step lmao

Pornhub is not going to replace Youtube. The reason most people still use Youtube is because all their favorite content creators, who started on the website before it went to the shitter, are on that site and make their livelihoods there, and aren't going to move to another site, praying to God that enough of their followers and the new sites set up allow them to continue making enough money to live unless they absolutely have to, i.e. making money on Youtube is no longer possible.

Unless you have a mass exodus of both content creators and their audience to a new site, people will still use Youtube.

@Ryumaru
"i.e. making money on Youtube is no longer possible."
it's starting to get there. While there hasn't been any super big names with say ten million subscribers to leave youtube there have been people with a couple million subscribers leave youtube for alternative sites because the monetization has gone to shit in a handbasket.

I literally only watch 3 YouTubers now and none of them are even over 200,000 subscribers. And mostly upload roughly once every couple of a weeks or every other month. YouTube has been pretty much dead for me since at least 2014. I’ve actually been on Pornhub and seen a lot random non-pornographic videos for the past couple of years now. I would embrace the complete switch. However, I feel like it would ultimately kill off Pornhub for good. As you know a bunch of underage faggots would end up swarming the website. Parents and lawmakers would take notice. Probably trying to push more anti-porn laws making it even harder for me to enjoy content and get a good fap out of things. I’m already concerned about stupid fucking laws coming for our porn. Really don’t want to start filling up hard drive after hard drive with backed up content. But if I fucking have to, I will. I’ve still got at least a good solid 5 years of fapping left in me. But knowing me I’ll probably never fucking quit and of course I can’t forget about always wanting to watch some quality hentai. Can’t ever give it up.

YourHigherBrainFunctions wrote:

@Ryumaru
"i.e. making money on Youtube is no longer possible."
it's starting to get there. While there hasn't been any super big names with say ten million subscribers to leave youtube there have been people with a couple million subscribers leave youtube for alternative sites because the monetization has gone to shit in a handbasket.

There's definitely no profit for someone trying to make money on YouTube that has under 500k subs. Which you're still struggling to make proper amounts of money, worrying about content demonetization with every single upload, and begging for any amount of money people are willing to give you with your Patreon accounts. The whole state of being a "YouTuber" is just fucking awful and very sad right now. I remember wanting nothing more in my life than to be a successful YouTube channel back from 2006 all the way up until 2013. I gave up, I realized the website was garbage, the direction it was taking wasn't what I wanted, and nobody really cared about someone's creative skill anymore if the content wasn't "trendy" enough. There was so many great YouTubers on the website that either had to convert to a different style just to keep up or just faded into a deep dark obscurity.

@YHBF For there to be an exodus, Youtube would have to do something that stops 90% of all popular Youtubers from making any money all at once, and making it clear they aren't going to in the future. A few Youtubers here and there getting demonetized off the site isn't going to kill Youtube and Youtube knows that. So long as they don't blanket ban LPs or the like, Youtube will continue to be the giant it is. Through being the foundation of thousands of entertainers livelihoods, Youtube has a virtual monopoly on those entertainers, until Youtube completely destroys that foundation for all of them, Youtube won't die.

@Ryumaru
Or just continue to be shitty and slowly bleed out of profit. Contrary to what a lot of people believe youtube isn't really that profitable.

I'm trying to put this in a non-dickish way, but there's no such thing as too big to fail in the tech industry. Back during the adpocalypse there were people genuinely unironically wondering how "society would survive" without the "keystone" to modern society. If a competitor replaced Youtube or Youtube eventually pissed off content creators enough to harm itself it wouldn't be that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Like when Myspace died I'm pretty sure society didn't collapse and that there wasn't people fighting in the streets for food.

The thing a lot of tech companies do is that they act as though without them the internet would never recover and that nobody would ever create a alternative. Without Youtube how would society as a whole manage to survive without a video uploading site. Without Vine how would society as a whole manage to survive without a site for short video clips. Without Myspace how would society survive without the cornerstone to social interaction.

Last edited Apr 04, 2018 at 06:01PM EDT

@YHBF I don't think the two scenarios are comparable. Youtube is not too big to fail per say, it can fail pretty hard and take all the content creators down with it. What I;m saying is there is no "next site" that's going to arise while Youtube is alive that's going to snatch away all the Youtubers and kill Youtube. This isn't the same as a social media site killing another, thousands of people use Youtube to make a living, and most people who go to Youtube go for those people.

Moving their livelihood to a new site is a HUGE risk that has a 99% chance of failure. Think about it. In order for another site to completely replace Youtube, it would have to take most of Youtubers content creators, which would mean thousands of people uprooting their ability to pay their bills and eat, and move it to another site with absolutely no guarantee that enough of their fanbase will follow, that the new site's ads will rake in enough money, that the new sites guidelines will allow them, that the new site won't turn into another Youtube anyway, or that the site won't get bought or go bankrupt (remember, the Youtube model is not profitable and is only afloat because Google can absorb the cost) that the site will be popular enough to keep enough new fans being made to replace leaving fans, or that advertisers don't so the same shit there as well.

Youtube isn't like other websites. Youtube's death isn't dependent on the userbase staying, it's dependent on the people whose livelihoods depend on it leaving. The only way that will happen is if Youtube straight kills most people's ability to live off of them, and that will just kill Youtube, there's no guarantee that something will replace it if Youtube straight up dies, or if most content creators just go to Patreon for money and stay on Youtube because that's were their thousands of videos are.

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