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Sesame Credit: China's version of the psychopass

Last posted Mar 15, 2018 at 11:45AM EDT. Added Mar 14, 2018 at 07:53PM EDT
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Quite a while ago I saw this video about the sesame credit, it was quite alarming but at least it seemed to be in a very rough prototype phase back then:

Well as it turn out, in the following 3 years, China seem like they have advanced a lot in their idea of a citizen score, and seem to be planning a mass implementation in a few years (it helps that China has gotten somehow more oppressive from back then):

From the news article: “China is planning and something like this called the Social Credit System. Details are sketchy at this stage but it is due to be up and running by 2020.”

It looks like China is turning into a bubble that might blow up under the weight of its own oppressive and probably very expensive bureaucracy, but on the other hand…it might not, not only that but if this is successful it is possible that other governments start to employ similar ideas as well (for example due to the recent rise in governments trying to regulate and influence the internet, remember the FBI and their ludicrous desire to control memes? Well…) creating a very dangerous slippery slope. What do you think?

Last edited Mar 14, 2018 at 07:54PM EDT

I give it ten years till China implodes on itself. It's debt problem is getting REALLY fucking bad at this point. It's debt is now at three times the entire country's worth.

YourHigherBrainFunctions wrote:

I give it ten years till China implodes on itself. It's debt problem is getting REALLY fucking bad at this point. It's debt is now at three times the entire country's worth.

Which is unfortunate because it's an economic powerhouse, and if it falls…seriously we had a recession a mere 10 years and we have only recently started to recover, now another one? I guess I'll have to get used to be unemployed after getting out of college. What about the technology though, think they even have a chance of implementing it?

NO! wrote:

Which is unfortunate because it's an economic powerhouse, and if it falls…seriously we had a recession a mere 10 years and we have only recently started to recover, now another one? I guess I'll have to get used to be unemployed after getting out of college. What about the technology though, think they even have a chance of implementing it?

The problem with a lot of this tech is that dumb fucks in business suits have no concept about how computers work or such. Youtube can't even make a bot to remove porn without it getting stuck in a self referential loop and China seriously thinks they'll be able to pull this off?

You know what fuck it. Let them destroy their economy cause some 60 year old dude that has trouble finding the start menu on his computer think computers as they are now capable are capable of quantifying personal irrational beliefs into computer code. It'll be hilarious to watch the communist party trying to tell the world that they know programming better than programmers after they cripple their economy.

Last edited Mar 14, 2018 at 09:30PM EDT

Honestly I know I'm a little annoyed at this, but this is one of my pet peeves. So many countries, companies, political parties just do not understand that computers are really really good at math and such but they're dogshit at quantifying abstract concepts such as morality into hard data. Trying to make something like this would be like trying to tell a computer to determine what love is; since it's a abstract concept without any hard data into it of course it's going to break the system.

YourHigherBrainFunctions wrote:

I give it ten years till China implodes on itself. It's debt problem is getting REALLY fucking bad at this point. It's debt is now at three times the entire country's worth.

Hey, Hongkongers have been saying that for like 20 years.

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