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This is actually very bizarre
This sparked 2 problems
1. The SWATing hoaxes and how it may danger other people's lives
2. The SWAT team killed an innocent person with a fucking gun because he thinks the person has a gun too

"“I DIDNT GET ANYONE KILLED BECAUSE I DIDNT DISCHARGE A WEAPON AND BEING A SWAT MEMBER ISNT MY PROFESSION,” said one gamer, who others said made the swatting call."

Yeah, no, doesn't work like that. I hope you end up with life in prison for orchestrating a murder. Seriously, I think even in cases where no one gets hurt, that swatting should earn you 30 years behind bars, because you are starting a situation you know can end up like this. It's not funny. At all.

The cop who shot the guy wouldn't have even been there if it wasn't for the bastard that called, if anything they should be on trial for murder

It's the other way around pooch….

"due to the actions of a prankster we have an innocent victim"

I really don't want to look like I agree with the guy who called for the fake swat attack (because seriously fuck that guy) but yeah… I really don't like how this statement feels.

I do think both parties are at fault in this situation, and while I certainly do agree that the guy who called in the swat team was the only one intending to cause harm to an innocent person, in the end… it was a police officer who shot an innocent uninvolved unarmed man on their own property. This could have just have easily been a legitimate incident being called in that the person reporting had made an honest mistake about the address with the same result.

"Everyone who disagrees with me is retarded" -logic™
…Yeah surreeeee

I don't know what pisses me off more, the fact some gaming bullshit led to a death or the fact that the cops shot a guy for answering his door when they knocked.

Oh so we're into this argument, huh?
There is a MASSIVE difference between "there's a fight in the mall" and "someone had an argument with their mother, that the father had been shot in the head and the shooter was holding his mother, brother and sister hostage"
Your example is just poor. This is isn't some fucking "cop kills black people" again, this a different situation.
Your example includes a serious situation that the caller did something right, only the SWAT team did it wrong
Meanwhile this actual incident includes a hoax and it's both the caller's and the SWAT team's fault. It also wastes the SWAT team's time.
SWAT teams are usually called for riot control or whenever there's a hostage situation ,ect. .
Plus, I doubt that the SWAT would come over and stop some fight in the mall, they would just let some regular cops deal with it
Also, SWAT teams are trained to be this violent, did you even see the clips in Twitch where SWAT teams treated the streamers?
The gamer didn't call the SWAT team because there's a actual hostage situation, he called the SWAT team to ruin the other gamer's life while wasting the SWAT team's time on PURPOSE over an argument, but got the wrong address and got someone killed which makes the situation worse. It's nothing compared of calling a SWAT team because there is a actual fight in the mall which causes damage, your example doesn't have the caller doing a hoax.
Again, there's a difference
Besides, how do you know that the cop will shoot """"everyone""""? Are you assuming all cops uses firearms only?
So majorly, the gamer who called the SWAT is still at fault
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Yes, the SWAT member is at fault too because he handled poorly, but that does not mean he should be punished at max. Just let him be demoted or fired with a fine while the caller gets a 5-20 year prison who started this situation over some arguement.
Only a war criminal or a person who assassinated a president would get a life sentence

Cops need to be treated like average people for these abuses to end. Imagine the scenario: Average Joe gets a phone call that there's a shooting and hostage situation at a house in his town. Joe decides to take care of it himself for whatever reason; maybe he just doesn't trust the cops, maybe he thinks he can't wait for them, maybe they're 40 miles away, it doesn't matter. Joe takes his gun and heads over there, then shoots the first guy that comes to the door. He's not getting off with only a fine and neither should the SWAT officer.

In my opinion the cop was in the wrong for shooting an unarmed man and I think cops should get punished more for breaking the law than a citizen because cops should know and enforce the laws thus are more informed than the average citizen of the laws and being an enforcer of said laws is more responsible when they break said laws. However I also understand that the cop wouldn't have been put in the situation and was operating under fraudulent information and as such I think he deserves some leeway because of this.

The guy who made the call deserves prison time for involuntary manslaughter or full on murder for calling in a false police report. This shit needs to be stomped out now because its a cancerous thing.

The cop should probably get fined and have to retake some swat classes as unpaid leave. I don't think he should lose his job over this because again he was operating under the assumption that the person in the building was armed and dangerous. However if any footage is revealed that shows the cop saw that the person was unarmed and still chose to fire on them then the cop should also be charged with murder.

Let's see here.

False Report to 911, that can be as little as a fine or if a attorney wants to make the case, Grounds for Perjury as a vocal statement of a fact to 911 under false pretense can be construed as lying in an official procedure.

Constructive Manslaughter, as in murder with a malicious intent behind it. The fake caller fully intended consequences to befall the person he made the report to. Just because they weren't the consequences he was seeking doesn't diminish his intent to cause harm.

And Criminally Negligent Manslaughter, since making a false report to deploy the Special Weapons and Tactics team out to someones house is defiantly showing a reckless attitude.

For the Swat Team member, Either Voluntary or Involuntary Manslaughter, clearly he didn't intend to kill an innocent person, and was acting under the per-conditioned notion that he was entering a life or death situation.

Not even bothering making an arrest?
Just shot him?

Jeezus, we have a police problem.

It wasn't just some civil dispute, they were called out on the assumption that it was a hostage situation and that someone had already been killed.

With all the information available, they had to assume they were dealing with someone armed and prepared to kill, not really a scenario where they can just go in and make an arrest

@Sanakan_ht
The caller is responsible for the false call, not the murder. If the caller actually thought was something going on, and the same thing happened, the caller would not be responsible. Unless you can prove the caller made the call with intent to kill the guy, then there is no linking him to the murder any more than linking COD to the murder. "if COD didn't exist, this wouldn't have happened!"

@ActivistZero

Shoot first, ask questions later. Sounds good.

Again, given the information they had available, they did not have the luxury of time to ask questions.

Not a situation any cop wants to be in

How does one place that much importance over a game, to the point where they're willing to put someone's life in danger? How disconnected from reality do you have to be to think that's okay to do?

@ActivistZero

Literally their job is to do just that, ask questions and de-esculate the situation. Even if the caller WAS 100% accurate in describing what was happening, you STILL don't just roll up and start shooting.
Imagine if the situation was real and that was the hostage running out. The police just start shooting the hostage.

SWAT call was released & SWAT body cam footage was released
Found the suspended Twitter account name btw:

Judging by his profile looks, he probably did couple of false SWATing back then or support false SWATing

This needs to end. Calling the SWAT team on innocent people isn't a funny prank. It's wasting the time of Police, wasting taxpayer dollars, and getting people killed.

This needs to start carrying jail time. Something akin to involuntary or criminally negligent manslaughter on top of charges for phoning in a fake 911 call. Fact of the matter is that someone is dead and needs to answer.

SWAT are in a high stress job and trusted someone to give them accurate info. The other guy was just playing a game. Thus fault should lie squarely with the person who called in a fake 911 call as a "prank."

Seriously, this isn't funny. I don't get how anyone can find this to be funny.

Malicious intent is Malicious Intent, doesn't matter if he wanted to psychologically harm his victim, get them injured by a bullet, or get them killed. He made a false report with the intent that the SWAT team would show up with the full assumption of a hostile suspect and treat them as such.

Ergo, all the consequences fall on the Caller for this act. Malicious Intent is intent to harm and this caller had full intent for the SWAT team to cause at minimum, psychological and monetary damage. That is enough justification for a manslaughter conviction.

sigh
-He did this for a prank on the other gamer
-He did it on purpose
-He created a false hostage situation
-He got the wrong address from the information he got from the other gamer. Did you think that SWAT member would have shot the other gamer if the caller have the right address?
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Also, as I stated from me previous comment, the SWAT member should also be at fault. But that doesn't mean he should be punished at max. Just let him be charged for breaking the law, demoted, or get a retire

It's kinda hard to make out what the victim was doing from the bodycam vid, other than he moved his arm before getting shot. The swat team was pretty far away from the victim, well outside tackle or taser range.

@Black Graphic T
> That is enough justification for a manslaughter conviction.

Yes, involuntary manslaughter at most, not murder. There was no intent to murder that we know of.

@Sanakan_ht
>Did you think that SWAT member would have shot the other gamer if the caller have the right address?

Obviously so.

>Just let him be charged for breaking the law, demoted, or get a retire

He murdered an innocent person. Why should he not be sentenced for life?

@Ryumaru Borike

Far enough away to where the police wouldn't be able to see anything so they can claim literally anything is a gun.

@poochyena Far enough away so that if the suspect decided to light all that gasoline he, according to the caller, poured everywhere, the SWAT team wouldn't get blown to smithereens.

The caller has been arrested and been identified known as Tyler Barriss
Tyler Barriss has created some false SWAT situations and false threat situations in the past such as:
- false bomb threat in 2015 (he was later arrested)
-made a false threat in Sept. 30 2015
-made a false threat in Oct. 9 2015
-threatened his relative to prevent from reporting the incidents he caused
-ect.

So apparently there's absolutely no excuse for giving Barriss a fine and just let him go
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@poochyena
>"Obviously so"
>"He murdered an innocent person. Why should he not be sentenced for life?"
There's no doubt that you just hate cops in general

Oh right, he was also the same person who made a false bomb threat to the FCC recently

Ryuman said:

@poochyena Far enough away so that if the suspect decided to light all that gasoline he, according to the caller, poured everywhere, the SWAT team wouldn’t get blown to smithereens.

Sounds like the caller wanted the intended victim to get shot and murdered.

Sanakan said:

Tyler Barriss has created some false SWAT situations and false threat situations in the past such as:
- false bomb threat in 2015 (he was later arrested)
-made a false threat in Sept. 30 2015
-made a false threat in Oct. 9 2015
-threatened his relative to prevent from reporting the incidents he caused
-ect.

So apparently there’s absolutely no excuse for giving Barriss a fine and just let him go

What a real piece of shit.
I hope he gets decades behind bars.

Might be late for this but the attorney for the family of 'swatting' victim wants officer charged. (R. Hegeman of AP broke the news on Fox News, January 2, 18:35:11)

Charged is alright for me, that SWAT member did a poor job of what happened and he should be responsible
still the prison for life idea still sounds awfully stupid
I'm still waiting if Tyler Barriss is thrown to jail
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Also UPDATE:
Tyler Barriss also threatened that is:
-sent bomb threats towards MLG Dallas
-sent threats to both ZooMaa and Zoo's girlfriend

So how many false threats has he done? 7? More?
He did some false SWAT threats obviously some times
Like hell… "SWAuTistic"….
You can tell that he did illegal shit in the past judging by his name

Considering threats, false threats, and a false bomb threat, these could give him a good amount of time unless I'm just being optimistic in his punishment. Then again, his swatting got a guy killed so perhaps that would actually give him some decades, especially if this all adds up with his record.

Developing News (January 6, 2018; 04:00): 'Swatting' suspect was linked to many other hoax calls in L.A. and elsewhere before Kansas tragedy (Source: Los Angeles Times

"Danielle Citron, a professor of law at the University of Maryland who specializes in privacy and cyberstalking, said the use of swatting as a form of payback gained more traction during the 2014 Gamergate controversy. Hoax phone calls against female members of the gaming industry and journalists were among many forms of harassment that exposed an ugly, misogynistic segment of the online gaming population."

OOOOOOOOOHHHKAAAYYYYYYYYYY that was unexpected as fuck to bring that up
Can we get a quick recap of what happened back in 2014? I kinda need to know which person got swatted?
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And all this new information about Tyler Bariss just dropped my empathy levels to the negatives.