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Of feminism and anime (partially nsfw not where you think it's going)

Last posted Dec 15, 2017 at 06:01AM EST. Added Dec 13, 2017 at 08:50PM EST
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I know what you're thinking "misogyny" or whatever the fuck people say shit is about nowadays. However before we all start bickering or such there is something that almost everyone glosses over entirely.

Contrary to popular belief there are plenty of video games and such that are fanservice towards straight women. There's plenty of harem anime games with porn in japan that are meant for straight women to enjoy. It is actually pretty popular in Japan. And here is the meat of the discussion: if these sorts of games and such are so popular in japan why don't we see them in the west as much? The last harem game on Steam with a female main character and the characters you could romance were all males sold 700 copies total and that was four months ago.

If you want to see more hot guys in games spend money on products. At the end of the day anime games are a product; if people in a foreign country are not buying your product then there is simply no financial reason to sell your product to them. If you want more bulges on anime guys in games then crack open your wallet and support creators of mass media you enjoy. Simply waiting for a company to make a product you enjoy is like walking outside waiting for it to rain to get a drink of water; if you live in the desert you gonna dehydrate to death before it rains.

Tldr; I want more bara dating sims with official translations legally being sold in the west; open up your wallet and legally support products you like and companies will be more willing to spend money on translating the games to other languages and licensing them outside of japan. Until then I have to rely on fan translation patches.

Tldr of tldr; STOP ACTING TIGHTFISTED!

The culture of the west is simply too prude/too different to accept the seemingly overbearing amounts of sexual content that Japan loves to produce, especially considering the sometimes borderling pedophillic design choices.

700 copies of a game is not a lot in today's market.

People do want to see more hot guys in games, and people do support them and end up getting what they want. But the audience that wants that is so few and far between that the products they end up getting are so vastly overshadowed by anime tits that nobody notices that it's even a thing. There are a few exceptions though, but honestly there's reasons for that on its own. Dream Daddy was riding the Game Grumps tides towards its popularity (and a bit of controversy), and Nekojishi is practically just a gay furry bait game that might be riding the visual novel wave going on right now.

I'm not acting tightfisted, I'm just being prude. I don't have a lot of money to support what I want to support, be it my hobbies or beefy gay men. But I will say that the world needs more of the latter in media.

Um, c-could you please tell me what this "harem game on Steam with a female main character" is? Asking for a friend.

Last edited Dec 14, 2017 at 12:23AM EST

The last popular dating sim built with straight women in (i.e the MC is a girl with male suitors) that I can remember was Hatoful Boyfriend
Yeah I want more guy harem dating sims because I need the simulation of a relationship to cover up the fact that I'm so lonely oh god, but unfortunately the market is more in favor of anime tiddy girls, and also anime tiddy girls ship more copies than hot anime bois.

Also, I just remembered that there is a series of hot anime bois dating sims for mobile games called "Shall We Date?" and range from your standard vampires and knights and stuff to ninjas.
Wish they were written better though…

And yet shows like Free and Yuri on Ice have been very popular or at least carry the perception of popularity with them. It's quite the conundrum that I think has a relatively simple solution.

That being that dating sim/visual novel games are just not that popular in the west unless there's something radically different in it ala Doki Doki Literature Club. So expecting this niche product to become further niche is asking for a lot, without offering any true incentives to do so.

Black Graphic T wrote:

And yet shows like Free and Yuri on Ice have been very popular or at least carry the perception of popularity with them. It's quite the conundrum that I think has a relatively simple solution.

That being that dating sim/visual novel games are just not that popular in the west unless there's something radically different in it ala Doki Doki Literature Club. So expecting this niche product to become further niche is asking for a lot, without offering any true incentives to do so.

Well games like nekopara, huniepop sold well over a million copies. My point was that while straight anime games for men, yuri and such do sell well in the west games like pastry lover which are for straight women or yaoi games sell very poorly in the west. Straight women in the west who want hentai games or dating sims just have to settle for dating sims for men.

I'm gonna make an assumption and guess that the target demographic for those games simply don't know they exist, or at least, where to acquire them. They certainly don't seem to get as much exposure (no pun intended) as their male focused counterparts do.

LesserAngel wrote:

I'm gonna make an assumption and guess that the target demographic for those games simply don't know they exist, or at least, where to acquire them. They certainly don't seem to get as much exposure (no pun intended) as their male focused counterparts do.

That's what I said, so I'm glad you agree.

LesserAngel wrote:

I'm gonna make an assumption and guess that the target demographic for those games simply don't know they exist, or at least, where to acquire them. They certainly don't seem to get as much exposure (no pun intended) as their male focused counterparts do.

Even with dlsite it's kind of hard to find, because often times you have to rely on fan translation patches which often times take a long time to happen or never happen.

A Wolf wrote:

The culture of the west is simply too prude/too different to accept the seemingly overbearing amounts of sexual content that Japan loves to produce, especially considering the sometimes borderling pedophillic design choices.

700 copies of a game is not a lot in today's market.

People do want to see more hot guys in games, and people do support them and end up getting what they want. But the audience that wants that is so few and far between that the products they end up getting are so vastly overshadowed by anime tits that nobody notices that it's even a thing. There are a few exceptions though, but honestly there's reasons for that on its own. Dream Daddy was riding the Game Grumps tides towards its popularity (and a bit of controversy), and Nekojishi is practically just a gay furry bait game that might be riding the visual novel wave going on right now.

I'm not acting tightfisted, I'm just being prude. I don't have a lot of money to support what I want to support, be it my hobbies or beefy gay men. But I will say that the world needs more of the latter in media.

Nekojishi actually was popular before the game even came out because the artists working on the project are popular Kemono artists in the Asian communities (there were even fan made manga about the characters before the game ever came out) this certainly boosted the game's popularity

My personal problem with the Bara games in the market is that most of them are genres of games I don't personally like

Morenatsu, Dream Daddy, Nekojishi are visual novels, not a big fun of those EXCEPT if it contains Puzzle or RPG elementals (like Phoenix Wright and Persona series) I'm still struggle to start Nekojishi because I want action in my videogames (Still… Guardian Tiger is best in my books and I need to find why everyone call the Clouded Leopard BEST BOY)

Tokyo Afterschool SummonersIs a Japanese only game aimed towards to the LGBT community with Bara hunks (both Anthro and Human) but guess what else this game is? A FUCKING CARD GAME GACHA.
Which is shame because I really love many of the characters ingame

One of the few Bara games I have seen on steam which is not Visual Novels neither a Card games is Bastard Bonds, and I found out about this game because one of my favorite Bara artists, CaptainGerBear, had been working on it and providing artwork

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