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soooo, are monster boys a thing?

Last posted Nov 15, 2017 at 04:32PM EST. Added Nov 09, 2017 at 11:16AM EST
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this is the first time i'm saying this but….are people, specifically girls, okay with the idea of monster boys or men? i know it's thing since google is awesome and what not, but most of what i've seen don't seem to satisfy me. maybe when i get home i might draw some.

or maybe because monster boys are gay. who knows.

It's okay to draw.

The reason why monster girls drawings drastically outnumber monster boys is that most of the guys in the fandom are hetero and a lot of the women would like to be the monster girl… Admit it; it'd be cool to be one. We actually see people cosplaying at conventions.

Big Brother wrote:

So much talk about monster girls. Where are the monster traps?

There are some drawings, but they're not as popular.

They've always been a thing.

Jokes aside,they're not as popular because most of the time monster girls from media are mostly cute and not really that scary,while the boys as shown in the pics here are mostly horrifying and they're mostly seen in horror movies and thrillers.

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well i mean you've got
-sans the meme skeleton
-my name jef the killer
-slenderdude
-fourth example
with giant groups of fangirls, so i'd say it's somewhat of a phenomenon at least

myself, i prefer them big ol' monsters and scary disfigured psychos, since power and confidence are attractive. of course cuteness has its sides, but cute (as in, puppy cute) boys don't seem very daddy material.

though to be fair, i am a disgusting furry.

Alright so, I would love to go through different tangents on this, but I'm going to try and give the short version. I would love to go into specifics on different kinds but I'll try to stick with overall themes.

So the first part of the question is do they exist: yes. However, I feel that we need to go deeper than that. Also, I'm going to be using the term Male bias/ Female bias. Here is is meant purely to say that I've seen more art work based around said gender. examples: Slimes generally have a female bias; I've seen much more artwork of female slimes than male slimes.

First we need to define "monster folk", because there are a lot of different categories that could count.

Most people think of Monster Girls fitting into generally the half human half animal all the time (be with either human with minor animal traits, such as with nekos/cat girls, wolf girls, or a literal 50/50 split as with Centaurs, Mermaids etc.). These are generally seen as distinct species and inarguablely fit in all definitions. Many of the original stories about some these have males, and some, like the centaur, originally only showed males. However, there are others whose descriptions (harpies, gorgons) are specifically female. Should also be noted that some of these (Gorgons, Minotaur) are explicitly stated to have started from the wrath of the gods, so only a few individuals were originally afflicted. One version of the Gorgon myth was Athena cursed them for having beauty which rivaled her own. Generally in art these seem to have a female bias.

You also have the more "furry-esque" species such as Kobold, or TES Khajiit or Argonian, and other antropromorphic animals races. This does have overlap with just general furry stuff, but many see them separate. While there are works that treat this concept very seriously, some are done just for fun. A anthro red panda drawn in a detailed fantasy Armour concept art style many would say is fantsy, while the same concept but in a cartoonish style might make other say is "just furry" This also goes into the whole Furry Scale, which is another can of worms. In any case, I've generally seen a more male bias here, but females defiantly do exist. It often times allows for creative difference between genders if they are a sexually dimorphic species.

The most common fantasy races, the non-human bare skinned humanoids who are not part animal, such as orcs, elves, dwarves etc. are sometimes consider monster folk, but often times are seen as a separate category. See Lord of the Rings and most fantasy genera things to be honest. Generally have a more male bias, as the stories they are inspired by generally have this because the society that told them generally had this. That's not to say that all stories that focus on these do have this, and some of them actually have an explanation for this (Often dwarves have legitimate uneven sex ratio at birth and/or both sexes look nearly identical). Dwarves nearly always have a male bias in art (and this extends further than just the males an females look similar) while elves seem to have a female bais in art.

You also have the changed from another group/species. These are things like Werewolves, vampires, and ghosts, angels (sometimes). These range from basically human with minor differences (vampires, some ghosts, angels) to something closer to furries. (Beast form Beauty and the Beast, werewolves). Mostly these have a more male bias. While female vampires do exist, most people think of the "default" as male. Interestingly in Dracula, there are actually more female vampires than male, though these do not have much given personality as vampires, and basically says that Dracula has a Polygynous relationship with them. While I know a few female werewolves exist, most mainstream stuff deals with male ones. Ghosts are generally a mix. Angels are a mix, but can be male or female biased depending on the source.

Finally I'll through in a miscellaneous group. Slimes don't really fit great into the other groups, so they have no problem being called monster girls, but sometimes robots and aliens are seen as fitting here. Due to the overarching nature of this, ans well as some (slimes) clearly being seen as monster girl while others (robots, aliens) not really being seen as such except in things like 30 Day monster girl challenges it's impossible to say which it's more skewed towards. Megaman could be argued is a monster boy series by this logic, which I don't think people realistically consider.

Should also be noted that these groups are not mutually exclusive. Holo from spice and wold is a wolf girl who can transform into a wolf. Some art I've seen of Slime girls are former humans/elves/other fantasy races whose bodies were turned to slime. Vampirism and lycanthropy in theory could afflict races other than bare skinned humanoids like centaurs, or furry-esque being, though I've not seen this concept played with much outside of things like TES, but even then it's usually just the player that has that, not npcs. I've also seen art of Cat/dog style centaurs, where the horse part is the carnivore, but the head and torso are of an anthropomorphic version of the same animal.


So anyways, as for the main question of "are monster boys a thing": There are a lot of males in the Bare-skinned humanoids and the changed groups. The Twilight saga is technically a a monster boy franchise, and the same could be argued for Lord of the Rings [and very debatly Megaman as I said above]. However, I'm 100% certain this is not the answer you are looking for

I seem to get the implication with "are people, specifically girls, okay with the idea of monster boys or men?" that the question is more aimed at things like "is there a male version of something like Daily Lives with Monster Girls" where the purpose is more fanservicy. The Twilight saga could be argued [I'm not trying to argue quality just that non-human and humans having romantic relationships are the focus unlike say Lord of the Rings], but again that's probably not what you mean.

As for other stuff and "do girls like it", I know that Lisa Lombardo (ikr) was upset that most monster boy stuff was just boring vampires and other technically not humans and wanted more creative stuff like Monster Musume had. Also, just by change I stumbled across this female DA Artist who drew male Lamia (see the side of the image page for more of them). Some of the situations do have homosexual implications (though there's also a lot of that in monster girl works too so take that for what you will) from OP "because monster boys are gay."

Really though, people are different and have different likes and dislikes. Despite the massive post I made, I don't have the same interest in Monster folk as most people who are big fans of Daily Lives with Monster Girls.

@Jacob
If you really really really want to get technical monster girls, monster boys, furries and such would technically be classified as human.

The reason being is that in the real world the way we classify animal species is by a group of organisms that are either incapable of reproducing with another species closely related or it is very difficult to do so. The reason why we do it this way is cause of humans actually. We're all familiar with how there were a dozen other hominids while homosapiens as we know it hadn't technically come about. What is interesting is that a couple of hominids due to their geographical location it took a while for them to interbreed with modern humans.

If there were such a thing as monster girls, monster boys, furries and such they would be classified as a ethnic race and not a species. Why? Cause humans will try and have babies with anything and if they can then they'll interbreed within a generation.

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YourHigherBrainFunctions wrote:

If you really really really want to get technical monster girls, monster boys, furries and such would technically be classified as human. The reason being is that in the real world the way we classify animal species is by a group of organisms that are either incapable of reproducing with another species closely related or it is very difficult to do so.

The issue with this is that you seem to hold a bit too much faith in the biological species concept. Granted I generally prefer monster folk in a (comparatively) medieval fantasy setting with magic as opposed to "modern day but with monster folk", which allows for literal "a wizard did it" explanations if you start asking too many questions. But still, It's something I can go into.

So first, it depends on the story and the rules they set out for each other. In some stories, while intercourse between different groups can occur, no offspring are produced, or they are sterile (such as with real world Horses and Donkeys making Mules, or tigers and Lions making Tigons/Ligers).

Second, is Gynogenesis. This I've not seen explored but does happen in with real species and really makes more sense in the majority of the girl only monster folk species than the perceived alternative. Basically, the female needs to mate with a male to produce young. However, it is the presence of sperm that prompts the offspring development. The male has no genetic effect on the offspring their mating helped to create. Generally species that exhibit this are composed of only females, so they have to have intercourse with other species, who many not even be a genetic match anyways.

Third is that way they "come into existence" can be all over the place. In most cases, vampires are really more of another species (human, elf, etc.) with a particular condition. Calling them a different species is sorta similar to calling someone with the flu a different species (granted there is a significantly larger physical distinction between normal humans and vampires and normal humans a sick with the flu humans). Another example is slimes. There are three main types of sentient slimes I've seen. Small micro organisms that formed a semi-liquid body, with each one acting basically like cells in a larger organism's body, with a singe conscience, but able to separate and reform readily. You have the more "magic" ones where a inanimate liquid/ semi-liquid body gains sentience through some means. Finally you have non-slime beings who are turned into slimes by some means. Of those three categories you can also have different kinds of micro organisms that make up the slime's body, different inanimate materials that became sentient, and different non-slime species that "became" slime. The composed of micro organisms slimes seems easy to define as a "species" but the other two get difficult to parse out. then you also get all sorts of questions on what happens when slimes physically meet. Do they psychically know that they are separate components and reform as their own original units like real world sponges? Do they merge into a bigger slime with personalities merged (either fully or split personality wise) do the bodies literally try to eat each other? Are these dependent on the physical make up of the slime and how it originated?

But as for the the main reason for this response: there are multiple ways that species can be defined, and some species exist under some methodology and are lumped together under others. While the biological species concept is not something I would say is invalid, it's not without it's issues, and pretty much everyone will admit reality is much more complicated than "if they can breed then they are the same species and if they can't they are not." To take an example that is close to home, many Humans who have ancestry out of Africa have some DNA found in Homo neanderthalensis but not found in people whose ancestry was never out of Africa, which means that Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis interbreed. Scientists still consider modern humans and Homo neanderthalensis separate species despite this.

There also things like ring species where there exists a gradient between populations but the furthest groups are not able to breed. Where exactly does one draw the line on this? This would be an interesting thing to explore with the furry scale, if you have the stomach for the borderline beastiality implications it may connotative. Probably the biggest point is that, technically speaking, a horse and centaur would have an easier time of having viable offspring (at least if is was a male centaur, but this is legitimately due the actual mechanics of it). If a Hose and centaur could have viable offspring, and a centaur and human could have viable offspring, does that mean horses are a type of human/ humans are a type of horse? It's getting into the weeds, but it's something to think about.

Wasn't there a manga that is "Rosario + Vampire " (1 and 2) have a thing with monster boys/man as far as I can remember?
It's mostly females in the manga though because it's obviously a harem manga, but I'm sure that there are monster boys

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@Jacob
The most likely scenario for furries and monster girls to happen is hybridization and offspring that weren't infertile.

I don't remember what video game it was, but this old video game one of the villains what he did was after the human race was almost wiped out he wanted to "boost" how quickly the human race came back by taking countless eggs of numerous animals and injecting them with human dna. What the villain did was basically for every 999,999,999 eggs that failed one baby actually manged to be born and was healthy.

Yes, monster boys exist. However, they tend to differ in appearance then the more popular monster girls.
As in monster boys are pretty much just anthropomorphic monsters or straight up monsters.
What I'm saying is that most women straight-up have teratophilia. I should also mention that this is coming from a chick who would be a-ok with being fucked by a 9'ft tall monster guy with scales, multiple arms and eyes, or any other odd monstrous body features.
Personally, I think it has to do with the fact that more monstrous characters also fit into a lot of other fetishes or kinks. Aforementioned size kink, power kink, longer tongues for what could be imagined for more enjoyable oral, etc.
From a non-sexual and kinky perspective, usually stories around monster boys tend to focus more on relationship building and how close the monster and human become, which does tend to do favorably well with a female audience. From what I've seen of the monster girl stories, they don't seem to focus on that all that much (more along the lines of sexy hijinks or whatever the standard harem anime tropes are), but maybe I'm not looking in the right places.
I should also mention that a lot of children, and therefore little girls, grew up with Beauty and the Beast, so there's that to consider as well.

"What I’m saying is that most women straight-up have teratophilia. I should also mention that this is coming from a chick who would be a-ok with being fucked by a 9’ft tall monster guy with scales, multiple arms and eyes, or any other odd monstrous body features. "

There are no women on the internet though, just really, REALLY gay men.

A Wolf wrote:

Monster boys are a thing, yes.
It's just too bad that the internet is full of people who bash the idea of being attracted to actual men and not "looks like a girl so it's okay".

Well yeah! Liking men is gay, and gay things are gay, it's a manner of principle you know?

edit: traps are of course COMPLETELY STRAIGHT.

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@Smiley dog
That's actually a pretty good explanation.

What guys into monster girls want:

What women into monster guys want:
…I can't exactly post that, cause most of them involve tentacles or such.

yes they do, but that are not as popular.
i mean monster girls as we see them are often from the MGE and MGQ universes taken on by things like /monster./

Kappapeachie wrote:

I haven't read the longer post cuz tl;dr but this gave me an idea for reverse harem parody called monsters in my closet where a chick has a closet filled with sexy monster boys….God this is weird.

>Chick
aaaand you lost me.
I mean just with that you've ruined all of the possible "closet" jokes.

Pyroniusburn wrote:

>Chick
aaaand you lost me.
I mean just with that you've ruined all of the possible "closet" jokes.

Then it's a dude With some girl roommate that suspects that he's gay or something although he's in denial. The monsters that live in his closet represent his repressed sexuality. There ya happy. Now yoai fangirls will jump on this quick.

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Kappapeachie wrote:

Then it's a dude With some girl roommate that suspects that he's gay or something although he's in denial. The monsters that live in his closet represent his repressed sexuality. There ya happy. Now yoai fangirls will jump on this quick.

I really do hate that, most Bara doesn't appeal to me and Yaoi fangirls can be goddamn insufferable at times, but I supposed I'm getting too off topic.

Sorry for over shitposting, anyway I think that rule 34 applies here, if you imagine it it exists, I bet there is even a female version of traps too.

NO! wrote:

Sorry for over shitposting, anyway I think that rule 34 applies here, if you imagine it it exists, I bet there is even a female version of traps too.

It's called a "reverse trap" a woman that looks like a guy.

YourHigherBrainFunctions wrote:

It's called a "reverse trap" a woman that looks like a guy.

yep, if it is sexual it exists. Okay people who sexualize Danny Devito unironically? Probably

YourHigherBrainFunctions wrote:

It's called a "reverse trap" a woman that looks like a guy.

I'm pretty sure there are different terms for that usually.
god that must not come up too often either

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