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KYM Users' Political Ideology Chart

Last posted Oct 06, 2017 at 11:10PM EDT. Added Sep 17, 2016 at 08:38PM EDT
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TESC2 wrote:

Here is mine:

Embed didn't work, could you try again? I'm not entirely sure if the URL of the image accurately reflects your chart.

Speaking of that, as a general note for everyone – either you have to provide an image that includes the exact numbers, provide the exact numbers yourself, or you have to link the chart directly from political compass as the URL of the image contains the exact numbers. Please make sure you do one of these.

Well, as long as this is a thing, I may as well play along.
Economic Left/Right: 4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.05

Over time, I've seen this site accused of being irrationally biased towards both the left and the right. A large enough pool may shed some light on this contradiction.

Nox Lucis wrote:

Well, as long as this is a thing, I may as well play along.
Economic Left/Right: 4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.05

Over time, I've seen this site accused of being irrationally biased towards both the left and the right. A large enough pool may shed some light on this contradiction.

This is just a poll of the forums, which are already known to be left-leaning in general, so I doubt it will be that enlightening – especially since a lot of the more extremist right-wingers (and, granted, some extremist leftists) only ever go to the comments sections. I suspect the final graph will just be a big bubble in the lower left quadrant with a few outliers, much like it is now.

Snickerway wrote:

This is just a poll of the forums, which are already known to be left-leaning in general, so I doubt it will be that enlightening – especially since a lot of the more extremist right-wingers (and, granted, some extremist leftists) only ever go to the comments sections. I suspect the final graph will just be a big bubble in the lower left quadrant with a few outliers, much like it is now.

That is legitimately concerning.
Also, this is my first time coming to the forums, in spite of my 3-year-old account.
Helloo!

Over time, I’ve seen this site accused of being irrationally biased towards both the left and the right. A large enough pool may shed some light on this contradiction.

Looking at my notes from when I did the Make KYM Great Again survey, I'd need ~400 users from an at least somewhat representative sample (meaning, this would need to be frontpaged) in order to make any solid conclusions.

It seems that forums lean left (which the current chart is showing) and comments lean right. That's my general observation. If I PMed a bunch of comments regulars, I'd suspect on average they're more authoritarian right than the forums.

Also, welcome to the forums. No fun zone is to the left and hell is to the right. Snacks can be found in the chill zone and this is where the nerds hang out.

Last edited Sep 19, 2016 at 01:14AM EDT

Mom Rivers wrote:

Spider-Byte posted a chart for people around where he lives, so here's another chart for people around where I live. This is my best estimate of each. I didn't bother with Jill Stein because I couldn't think of how she different from the standard Green Party, and didn't want to go researching.

Oh also, there are 40 users now added to the list. I threw the data into a spreadsheet program and calculated a trend line just cuz.

That graph seems pretty off, if you considered nearly all UK parties were Right Authoritarian, despite the fact that the UK is considered more left and libertarian than the US. I think more accurate to this version of the test, they would be like these results i found online.

Last edited Sep 19, 2016 at 05:18AM EDT

One of the statements in the test is "Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races".

It's too ambiguous. What does it mean by "our race"? The human race? Compared to what other races? Animals?

Even if that were the case, it's impossible to agree or disagree because you cannot compare humans to literally everything else and expect to get one singular answer out of it.

i always get leftist libertarian when doing these tests, decided to go a bit more conservative on the sex questions, and the thing jumped to red instantly (a.k.a this test is shit)

still not satisfied with this, if it was accurate i would be between high red and blue or hell not even red since im for state capitalism, protectionism, interventionism and mixed economy and well, i hate everything about american libertarians.

It seems the test leans you stupidly to the left and bottom for moral questions that would have caused actual debate in the 80's, but today are considered basic human rights, so the only way to score blue is to either be a nazi, or a dixie hillbilly

put me somewhere where hillary is if you are gonna add me

Last edited Sep 19, 2016 at 08:49AM EDT

Economic Left/Right: -3.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

Seems about right. Although, I thought I was more economically left.
I don't think it's possible to get dead-center, since there is no neutral option. Neutral (0,0) in terms of this test would be like the Voter Apathy Party.

Last edited Sep 19, 2016 at 11:38AM EDT
One of the statements in the test is “Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races”.

It’s too ambiguous. What does it mean by “our race”? The human race? Compared to what other races? Animals?

Even if that were the case, it’s impossible to agree or disagree because you cannot compare humans to literally everything else and expect to get one singular answer out of it.

From the website:

"Race" can only refer to the human race or to one of its subdivisions. The proposition, in comparing one's race with other races, can therefore only be referring to the latter.

Now, to everyone else who is complaining:

Do you have a better option?

Complaining is useless if there isn't a better option to be found. I haven't found any.

This chart requires a minimum level of single-country focus, exact coordinates on a nolan chart, a length that is not too long that people won't take it and not too short that it gives very inaccurate examples, and some level of accuracy. If any quiz is deficient in any of this areas, this can't be done reasonably.

Political Compass seems to meet all these categories better than any other quiz I found. If you have a better option, tell me. Maybe in a year from now I (or someone else) can make a better version.

And as I said in the OP:

The point of this is less to get a hyper-accurate measure of the KYM forum’s political views (so please don’t complain about the accuracy of the political test), and more to see how we all compare to each other.

@Spider-Byte:

That was my best estimates of each party. It should be noted that the conventions have officially pushed the Democratic and Republican parties more to the left and right, respectively. Democratic party adopted some of Bernie's views and the Republican party adopted some of Trump's views, as well as the far-right religious wing of the party's views.

Again, though, that was my estimates. Maybe I did get it horribly wrong.

Last edited Sep 19, 2016 at 03:27PM EDT

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

Well, I've taken quite a step towards that bottom left corner since I last did this, last time I was about the same vertically but like 2 off the center horizontally
Gotta agree with the others that we could be doing with one of these that allows more neutral answers. Unfortunate nobody seems to know of an alternative.

Last edited Sep 19, 2016 at 04:03PM EDT

Strate77 wrote:

One of the statements in the test is "Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races".

It's too ambiguous. What does it mean by "our race"? The human race? Compared to what other races? Animals?

Even if that were the case, it's impossible to agree or disagree because you cannot compare humans to literally everything else and expect to get one singular answer out of it.

Socially speaking, when one refers to race, we are talking about the multiple ethnicities of humans, as there's only one Homo sapien. I've had the pleasure of talking to someone on the internet who would select "strongly agree" to the statement. The way he approached the issue was that he had no problems admitting the idea that other ethnicities had advantages over his, and vice-versa (though the advantages he listed were inconclusive at best, stereotypical at worst).

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

That's about what I expected. Though I remember taking a test like this and posting it in another thread here some months ago and I was closer to the center.

Mudkip Master wrote:

I personally consider myself in the low blue area, but this is what the test gave me. Probably because I honestly didn't know exactly what it was asking of me sometimes.

I'm unable to see the image, and inspect element suggests it's a link to… gmail? Might wanna try again, or just post the results without the image.

Qnomei wrote:

The numbers on this link can be changed to get a different result, I'm going to try some extreme values and see if it lets me.

Ha, my political compass goes to 11.

The maximums seem to be 16 and 15, respectively.

Is this proof one can be worse than Hitler!?

Freakenstein wrote:

Is this proof one can be worse than Hitler!?

I doubt that taking the actual test would let you go past 10 for either axis, but the largest integers to the top right are 16 and 12 without the dot disappearing.

I fell like this test need I don't care as an option since it pushed me further up than what I'd be considered normally (based on other tests)

Also one of those charts up their put Hillary as libertarian XD

That makes zero sense to me

Spider-Byte wrote:

That graph seems pretty off, if you considered nearly all UK parties were Right Authoritarian, despite the fact that the UK is considered more left and libertarian than the US. I think more accurate to this version of the test, they would be like these results i found online.

Socialism isn't libertarian, unless your referring to the anarchro-communist definition, however the socialist parties I've seen are authoritarian left

But regardless does the UK even refer to their parties as left and right?
(though I will say your graph is far more accurate than that of the one you replied to)

Also Rand Paul isn't authoritarian, he's about where I am on the chart

Last edited Sep 20, 2016 at 08:13AM EDT

Mom Rivers wrote:

Trying something different. I'm using infogram to create charts that allow you to hover over data points on a scatter chart to see who it corresponds to. Note that I've never used this before, so please notify me (either by PM or by posting in this thread) if something doesn't look quite right.

The point of this is less to get a hyper-accurate measure of the KYM forum's political views (so please don't complain about the accuracy of the political test), and more to see how we all compare to each other.

Here's a link to the chart.

Post the results you get (economic and social scores) for the political compass test and I'll add it to the chart. It doesn't take long to finish it.

A few times concerns were brought up over the multiple things I've done involving gathering information from KYM and its users. So, here are my guarantees.

What It Says On The Box: What I say is what will be done. The information provided for the birthday list goes on the birthday list, and I won't put it anywhere else. Of course, I can't guarantee that everyone else will do the same. Remember, you are making the information public.

Others Above Myself: I will never use any data I collect to benefit myself at the expense of others. For example, I will not use the data to shame, dox, embarrass, or otherwise hurt others in such a manner.

Individual Privacy Is Important: In some cases, it's obvious that the information you provide will be made public (e.g. the Birthday List). In other cases, however, I will strive to make sure that the information is anonymous. Should you make it clear who you are regardless, public releases will have it censored slightly.

Where's your own?

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

Seems legit, though the religion questions are pure bullshit. They make you agree or disagree with the more fundamental standpoints of religion and don't even ask if you agree with multiple religions living in one state.

Last edited Sep 20, 2016 at 02:13PM EDT

Areskrieger wrote:

Socialism isn't libertarian, unless your referring to the anarchro-communist definition, however the socialist parties I've seen are authoritarian left

But regardless does the UK even refer to their parties as left and right?
(though I will say your graph is far more accurate than that of the one you replied to)

Also Rand Paul isn't authoritarian, he's about where I am on the chart

I never said anything about socialism?

And yes, we do. The two major parties, The Labour Party and The Conservative Party are Centre-Left and Centre-Right respectively, and they are both usually just referred to as left wing and right wing. Other larger parties like UKIP, The Liberal Democrats and The Green Party are also referred to by their political leanings.

Also I know nothing about Rand Paul, i just posted that chart as it seems closer to the one on the website.

Okay, so I did the test you linked to, but the results came up different than one I did before. This was probably due to the questions being more confusing that I had to make guesses on some of them. I decided to post the results from a different one which I think is more truthful. The only difference is that you'll have to flip it vertically to match it up with the others.

Last edited Sep 20, 2016 at 04:27PM EDT
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