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[+] Unidan 20 hours ago sigh SO WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT ITS TRUE? READ WHAT YOU WROTE. Why would they need to be corrected if they're not wrong in the first place? I'm fine with informing someone like, 'more specifically, that's actually called a blue jay', not 'that's not a crow, it's actually a blue jay'. THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING, THEN YOU TOLD ME I WAS WRONG. You are claiming "the crow family" is a thing that you can call a crow. That is not true. If anything, you should claim it for the genus, which at least makes slightly more sense. Nope, that's not how it is in Ireland, crow is used as the loose term, mainly for rooks, jackdaws, and hooded crows etc. It's not used to describe a particular bird. 23 Now who's being pedantic? It was an example, yes, for those living in America. If you live in Russia, you'd say Hooded crow, jeez. Show me where someone calls a jackdaw a crow, or a rook, in any nature article or scientific journal. Please, show me. permalink save parent report give gold reply
[-1 Ecka6 1 day ago Because most people don't know anything about birds and call the black ones crows! Most of the time they're not wrong in calling them crows either. I've never seen people argue over whether something is a jackdaw or a crow in my life, it's like arguing over whether someone's a human or an ape, doesn't make sense to argue it. Also, calling them a corvid is less specific than saying a jackdaw so I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across there If you research crows then you'd know that jackdaws and such are a part of the crow family permalink source save save-RES parent report glve gold reply Unidan[+4] 1 day ago [- Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know? permalink source save save-RES parent report glve gold reply continue this thread
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