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Charlotte x Kamui significant B support alterations
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![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo As seen previously, the conversation is completely changed, instead of a confession from Foleo, we have a semi-non- friday Anyway, in the original, Foleo finally expresses his inner issues with how he thinks others see him, the localization misses that, actually, the localization misses any type of characterization, or at least, meaningful characterization. Soleil taks about her own preferences in romance and also shows a more embarrassed side which is usually absent from the really socially free Soleil. The localization talks about a bottle of shampoo. Oh and, it finally shows what they wanted to make Foleo become. If you've seen C, B and A, you'd know Foleo has some issues with his apperance in the original, the localization takes that out. Let that sink ih. If you want to see all the other documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Forrest: Hello, Soleil. Im sorry again about the hair debacle! You've looked so down ever since! I can make it up to you. I'd be happy to sew you like mine? Would that cheer you up? Soleil: That's really sweet of you, Forrest, but I that frown upside down," but sometimes that's Soleil:What's up with you, Foleo? YOU calling MY name. Will wonders never cease. don't think a cape will help. I always say,"Tun フォレオから声をかけてくれるなんて hard to do about you Do girls? har. I don't know ソレイユは 女の子が好きなんですよね? あはは 今更そんなことを聞くの? Soleil: Ahaha. You have to ask? Of course! I love cute girls! Soleil: Oh, that's not it! I'm bummed because you wont curls and I are hopeless! あたしは可愛い女の子が大好きだよ! 男の子じゃダメなんですか? Foleo: So you're not interested in boys? I mean Forrest: Why would you say that? There are other Soleil: I wouldnt say I'm not interested in them Soleil: Really? I thought someone super-cute like I mean, look there's no grace with guys, right? we could do besides har! [ソレイユ] 女の子の方が断然好きだよ。 だから、見てても盛り上がらないんだよね you would have tons of friends already So I don't get worked up when I look at them. Forrest: I have friends, but I've always got room やっぱりそうなんですか… Soleil: But I ove you My heart really gets going when I look at you and I just want to squeeze you ch so tight! Soleil: And what if I don't want to be your friend? でも、フォレオのことは好きだよ。 見ててきゅんき ゃんするし Foleo: Realy? You really think that of me? Forrest: Oh! well, in that case, I t be on my 本当にそう思ってくれているのですか? 僕は男なのにこんな見た目で… 気持ち悪いと思ったことはないんですか? boy, but I look lke this? Soleil: How could I ever think such a thing!! Soleil: No! Wait! I didn't mean it lke that. What if I want to be MORE than your friend? フォレオはとっても素敵だもん。 Why would I chase you around so much if you フォレオを悪く言う奴がいたら picking on you, I'1l give em what If for with my ソレイユ If that's true . then would you consider a それな 僕とお付き合いしてくれませんか? Soleil: You know that I have a thing for super cute girls, right? all? I love you. Forrest: Right..but you know that Im.. 僕はソレイユのことが好きなんです。 フォ· フォレオがあたしを好き! ? Soleil: Y-you love me? ご迷惑だったでしょうか? Forrest: Well, Soleil, I think youre pretty adorable ま、 まさかそんな No no Solell: Really? フォレオみたいな可愛い子に告白されて あたし、天にも昇るような気分で Forrest: Yes! You have so much energy. When you show up, you light up the whole room. I don't even mind all of the hair pulling and the Foleo: Soleil! Soleil: Wait a minute! You said I could borrow it 僕は真剣なんです 真剣に返事をして下さい Forrest: Im teasing! In fact, I have a gift for you I got you your very own bottle. ser Soleil: Youre right sorry. But, I ..just dont Soleil: What?! For me? You mean, I can smell like でも、あたし…わかんないよ あたしフォレオに好かれるようなこと I haven't done anything to make you love me いつも追いかけ回してただけなのに らですよ ソレイユは僕が男とか女とか Without worrying about whether I'm a boy ora too, you know girl You said you んな女性は他にはいません。 僕は あなたが好きなんです… There's no other lady lke that around. That's I love you. Soleil: Aww... Thanks, Forrest! You really know a girt feel special 返事を聞かせてください。 ソレイユ Soleil: D-Don't be so mean, Foleo Im the one [BLANK] |いつもはあたしか。説く方だったのに I love you too as a woman loves a man. フォレオが好きだよ 一人の男性として [フォレオ]本当ですか! Foleo: Realy? Soleil... that makes my day! れで僕たちは恋人同士ですね! [ソレイユ ちょっと…扌包きしめないでよフォレオ. Soleil: Aiie! Wait don't hug me, Foleo! どうしてですか? Foleo: Why? Youte always hugging me. Soleil: Being hugged is different from hugging! [BLANK] するのとされるのじゃ違うんだよ! Foleo: Well that's because youfe so cute and I [フォレオ]ソレイユが可愛いのがいけないんで すよ。それに, 自分の気持ちに嘘をつく方が 恥ずかしい ソレイユ言ってませんでしたっけ? Also, lying about what you feel is more embarrassing Isnt that you said, Solell? me レイユ]フォレオのいじわる Foleo: Ehehe. You can handle a little teasing. It's not as if I'm trying to embarrass you in front of BLANK] everyone. Im going to treasure you from now [フォレオ]うふふ·いじわるでいいですよ◇ 恥さらしにはなりたくありませんから。 今まで追いかけ回された分…これからは 僕があなたを可愛がっちゃいますからね。 逃がしませんよ. 僕の可愛いソレイユ。 as you used to chase me around. I wont let you get away, my cute little [ソレイユ] なんか Soleil: Oooh I dont know about this](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/169/eb8.png "Soleil x Foleo S support")
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![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma S-Support Conversation And this is the culmination of the changes to the previous conversations. The previous changes still have an effect on the future conversations. The whole support turned into a discussion about groceries and depending on people for chores. Like in many ather support conversations anything related to rings is taken out #Torrential Downpour Translati Original NOA V ersion (777]リョウマ、さっきは食材の買い出しに 付き合ってくれてありがとう。 ! Aqua: Thanks for coming with me to go buy | Azura. Thanks again for carrying in the Ryoma: Oh, uh... Sure. Not a problem. [アクア]あと、続けて悪いのだけど、 軍議用の資料作りを頼まれてるの。 Aqua: Also, sorry to keep on so, but actually I've been asked to prepare the stats help with this paperwork...if you have time. for the tactics council. Azura: There's one other thing. I could use Aqua: If it's akay...help me out there 手伝ってもらえるかしら? [リョウマ]あーああ。 S-sure. Ryoma: Aqua: Ryouma? What's wrong. ? You ve Azura: Ryoma? Are you all right? You seem been seeming a bit under the weather どうしたのーさっきから調子悪そうよ。 Ryoma: a: Huh? Did you say s [アクア]私の話も上の空という感じだし 体の調子でも悪いのかしら? | Aqua: tt seems your head's been in the | Azura: Goodness! rm so sorry. I've been clouds while I'm talking.. are you perhaps dumping all this on you. Clearly, you're not Ryoma: Oh, nah, it's nothing like that Azura: I know you wanted me to ask for help, but I think I've gone a little overboard [リョウマ]い、いや、そんなことはない。 ごめんなさい。 sorry [リョウマは、なぜ謝るんだ? Ryoma: W-why should you apologize? 私、 Aqua. I knew it. Ive been taking advantage of your good nature, haven't I? やっぱり調子に乗っていたかしら? この前あなたから、兄として頼っていいと 言われたから、そうさせてもらったんだけど Aqua: Since we had that talk about | depending on you like a big brother, I've been doing as you say, but. 少し あなたに頼りすぎていたー? Aqua: If so, don't worry, I'l reign it in だとしたらもう控えるから… 本当にこめ Ryoma: No! Don't apologize. It's my fault. [リョウマ]ち、違うんだ! それは 本当に違うんだ! Ryoma: N-no! That's... you're completely ! just didn't expect it to be like this [797]で、でも…今日のあなたは 私に頼られても、あまり嬉しそうじゃなかったわ。| all that happy to hear my requests. B-but... today you.. you didn't seem [リョウマ!それは勘違いだー! だがそう思わせたのは、 俺の半端な覚悟のせいだ…すまない。 Ryoma: You're misunderstanding me ! It Ryoma: l told myself I would be content just must have been my pathetic resolve that to make your life easier, but I'm not. made you think that way.sorry. [797]半端 ? you. Ryoma: The thing is I don't want to run errands and lift heavy objects for you. ああ、お前の事を妹だと思い、 俺は兄として支えるつもりだった Yeah, I thought of you like a kid sister and I I want to be there for you emotionally too. was all ready to support you like a big I want to be there for you as a man. だが-それは俺の言い訳に過ぎなかったんだ ! But . .. that was nothing more than one of Arura: Oh, my. What are you saying? [リョウマ1俺は…お前を妹ではなく 最愛の妻として娶りたいと思っていた Ryoma: I don't want you as a kid sister I want you betrothed as a wife I love abowe all else. [リョウマ]最近そう思ったわけじゃない… お前が白夜に来た時から.. Azura, I've known you for so long, I was always afraid to tell you how I felt since you came to Hoshido.. 俺はずっとそう思っていたんだ Ryoma: I've felt this wary for so very long. Ryoma: You never let anyone get clase to you. I wanted to be the exception. だが白夜王国の次代を担う第一王子の このリョウマは Ryoma: But I'm Ryouma... the eldest prince who will one day carry on the legacy お前を大事な妹だからとこじつけて 本当の気持ちを偽り続けていたんだ… Ryoma: I used the excuse of looking at you like my precious little sister to hide my real 情けない話だろう ? Aqua: That explains why you had this loolk Azura: I've always felt shy around you. I was [アクア1それで-今日はどこか 心ここにあらずといった顔をしていたのね… r face like you were in another afraid my heart would break if Igot too close Ryoma: I suppose we've both been trying to make the best of a bad situation. [アクア]もちろん妹として大事にしてくれる事も 嬉しかったけど 今の言葉はもっと嬉しい。 ! Aqua: tt goes without saying that I was | Azura: It doesn't have to be that way | content to be treated like your precious little! anymore. ister, but. your words today make me 私も 心のどこかでそれを望んでいたから、 妹として扱われることを拒否していたのかも… I Aqua: somewhere in my heart, I wished the same, and maybe that's why I wanted sister そうか Ryoma: Are you saying that you want things Azura: Yes, Ryoma! I don't want you to apen jars for me and carry my groceries. もちろんだ! [リョウマ]ぁぁぁっ! これからは妹ではなく Ryoma: Oh, oh yeah! That's right! No longer Azura: I lave you. I've been too scared to tell you that I wasn't sure you felt the same. 俺の大事な妻として…俺の家族になってほしい-Ryoma: But as my precious wife I want Ryoma: Azura. I've always loved you. From アグア? you to be family. That's cool, right Aqua?now on, 'll be there for you as a man should. 777は、ありがとう これで私はあなたの本当の家族になれるのね· Aqua: Yes, thank you... now I can be a true member of your family. Ryoma: will you promise me that you'll try to open up your heart a little more? 嬉しい Azura: Yesl I was afraid of losing you, but we were meant to be together Ryoma: Yeah, and next time, let's go out and buy you ring for you. It's supposed to be an 今度お前のために指輪を買いに行こう。 この大切な約束の証にな! t part of the p know! [アク刀ええ 私..とても幸せよ. End of S-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/091/200/7b5.png "Azura x Ryoma - S support")
![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Rvoma A-Support Conversation The first few lines had a reference to通せんぼor toasenbo, which is like King of the Hill (the game) or a barrier you put in your house to stop animals or children from reaching re This conversation suffers of the same problems like the C and B conversations. References to them being family are removed, replaced either with nothing or their own made up narrative. A lot of sentiment is lost in t localization. Instead of ending this conversation amicably like in the original, they just make them stand in front of each other in defiance. #Torrenta!Downpour riginal Translation With altered content NOA Version in blue [アクア]そこにいるのは·リョウマ?どうしたの? | Aqua: Ryouma is that you? What's wrong? | Azura: Goodness, Ryoma! You're blocking the whole hallway! May I get by? [アクア]うふふ。まるで私の行く先を 通せんぼしてるみたいよ。 Aqua: Ahaha. It's almost like you're playing gate keeper and refusing to let me through! そこを、どいてくれないかしら? 50 ass [リョウマ]いや、どかない。 今日こそは話を最後まで聞いてもらう。 Ryoma: Nope, I'm not letting you go. You'reRyoma: No! I'm not moving-at least, not going to listen to my side of the story. All until you hear me out. Azura: What do you mean? [リョウマ]俺が家族として、 そに兄妹とに距離を縮めようと声をかけると、 Ryoma: Every time I try to talk to you, to try bridge the gap between us as family, as Ryoma: I've been trying to talk to you all week, and every time I approach you, you run a お前はいつも逃げるように去っていってしまうー ! You always leave like you're trying to run | I'm sorry to corner you like this, but please, Azura, you have to listen! away from me だから今日は話を聞いてもらうまでは、 ここを通すわけにはいかない。 I can't let you pass until you hear what I have to say to you today. [アクア]だからその愛情は私じゃなく カムイに向けてと Aqua: I thought I told you to direct your attention to Kamui, not me Azura: I told you not to waste your time on me. You've found Corrin. [リョウマ]いや、違うんだ! No, e got it all vw always been your own person Ryoma: You may be here because Corrin was kidnapped, but you're not a replacement. [リョウマお前は勘違いしている。 Ryoma: You've been misunderstanding me. Ryoma:If you'll give me a chance, I'd like to be close with Corrin and you. 俺はお前のことを、カムイの 代わりだと思って扱ってきたわけじゃない。 I never meant to treat you as a substitute sibling お前が.777がアクアだから、 兄妹になりたいと思ったんだ。 You... it's because of who you are that I wanted to be closer as brother and sister (79T1リ39 Aqua [リョウマ]確かにお前と血の繋がりなどないし、I Ryoma: Yeah, okay, you and I aren't related お前が白夜に来たのだって… by blood and yeah, okay, the very reason you came to Hoshido 皮肉だが、カムイが 連れ去られたからだという理由に他ならない was cally for no ! than because Kamui was abducted だが俺はお前のことをヒノカやサクラと同様、 本当の妹だと思ってきたんだぞ? I Ryoma: but I've always thought of you the same as Hinoka and Sakura, as a.. [アクア]それは カムイの代わりではないと? | Aqua: And not just as Kamui's [リョウマ]ああ、何度も言わせるな。 Ryoma: Of course. Don't make me repeat Ryoma: Please, Azura. Don't make me say it アクアがアクアだからこそ、 俺はお前と大事な妹として守りたいんだ re ! else, that I feel like you're my precious little sister and I want to see you safe and happy. Aqua: Ryouma... thank you. And I'm sorry for the way I've been treating you そしてこれまでごめんなさい… 私の勝手な勘違いで、あなたに対して とても失礼な想いを抱いていたのね… I've been operating under a selfish delusion and I've thought of you in quite a boorish [リョウマ]いや いいさ。俺はお前の兄だ。 |Ryoma: Nah we're good. I'm your brother, 妹のちょっとした勘違いぐらいで、 腹を立てたりはしないさ。 small ing with my little sister, [アクカリョウマ…ありがとう ほんとに··· Aqua: Ryouma thanks I mean it 私…その言葉が聞けて 良かった" Aqua:l .. it's a relief to be able to hear you Azura:Oh. I'm so relieved! I'm afraid I've grown pretty attached to all of you. [リョウマ]感謝もしなくていい。 俺は兄として当たり前のことをしただけだ All I've done is what any brother should do. Ryoma: Except, from now own, I wish you'd that's the responsibility of a little sister? Aqua ただこれからはもっと俺を頼ってくれ。 それがむしろ妹として果たすべき責任なんだぞ? rely on me more. In fact, don't you think Ryoma: Good. I hope you'll lean on us a | little more well, especially me [アクア]ええ わかったわ。 get it でも 兄に頼るのが妹の責任なんて、 なんだかおかしいわねー Aqua responsibility to depend on her big brother, you'll ask for help when you need it. I think you're a little touched in the head me [リョウマははは、おかしくなどないさ。 Ryoma: Ahahaha, it's not so crazy [アクア]ならこれまでの分も… 沢山甘えさせてもらうわね。 Aqua: Well if you say so... then I'm going to Azura: I'm guessing you're going to stand take your word for it and cash in those checks you've promised. there blocking the hallway until I say yes. リョウマ兄さん。 Aqua Ryoma: That wasn't my original plan, but [リョウマ]ああ、任せておけ。 Exce End of A-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/091/199/4c4.png "Azura x Ryoma - A support")
![Comparison for Fire Emblem Fates Voice Customisation (Male) JP ENG 口調の選択 Select a voice. 穏やか Calm 子供 大人 Young Mature 元気 Cheerful Source: JP-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbm-Gej9VM [4:12] ENG-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn99Y2TA3E1:49]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/469/3c6.jpg "Voices missing in the NA version - Fire Emblem")
![fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma B-Support Conversation umma The lines are completely rewritten, some weren't present in the original in any way. The same issue remains with removal of anything related to them being a family (e.g. even the soldiers are part of this "family" even if they're not blood related camaraderie is taken out of the localization). The dynamic of the conversation Mchanges but not in a meaningful way, the swapping of lines and the rewrites are the main problem, in the original, they talked about their feelings more and their bonds were stronger. #Torrentia!Downpour Origin Translation With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Ryona: Aqua, do you have the tine for a bit of a Ryo a: Hello, Azura. Do you have a minute? [リョウマ]アクア少しいいか? アクア]リョウ ne Azura: Yes. Actually, I ve been Looking for you. Ryoma: No, I don't you the ather day? remenber that thing I told Ryo a: Ch? You took our conversation to heart? So can I help you wit お前に言ったことがあっただろう? 仲間として、そして家族として、 Ryoma: When I was talking about relyingon me a bit more, not just as a fellow ally, but as a member of the family? もう少し俺を頼ってほしいと。 (79T]え、ええ… [リョウマ]実はその事について、 Azura: Nothing! I just heard that you've beon talking about me behind my back Ryoma: well actually about that, I went and talked to some of the soldiers about it. Ryoma: Did you? Uh...well, that was a bit of a misunderstanding 軍の者達に相談をしてみたんだ。 Everyone started pitching their best advice to me like we were 皆親身になつて相談に乗ってくれた。 Azura : Was it리 Are you saying that you weren't talking about me? ideas to bridge thing tar out, they alding think of any miracle But even after 11, I *S talking about you, but not 俺がお前との距離を縮められるような妙策は we gap between you and .. 結局聞き出すことはできなかった… アクア]リョウ [リョウマ]すまない… [アクア]いいのよ、リョウマ別に気にしなくて。 Ryoma: The truth is, I as asking our friends for ant us to be closer Aqua: No, that's quite all right, Ryoma really it's not gyou fellou soldiers might have sone suggestions on 1いや、しかし… didn Azura: Ch, ny. I'n such a hard time Ryoma: Well you say that, but... [アクア]それにそんな話を当人の私にするなんて! その裏表のない一本気なところが、 リョウマ…あなたらしいわね。 [リョウマ]あ! ああ…確かに本人に 言うようなことじゃないな。すまない。 (777]それよりリョウマ… 私からお願いがあるの。 [リョウマ]な、なんだ!何でも言ってくれ! [アクア]私への優しさはもういいの。 無理に私を妹だと思わなくてもいいから… 私の代わりに、カムイを気遣ってあげて Aqua: And telling the object or your pleas for advice all about it .. Ryouma, that's just like you, you've no guile in your straight and pure Ryoaa: h, right non that you nention it, I probably shouldn't have been tolling you all that. sorry Ryoma: "sigh That's al right. 1 should've come to you instead. P Azura: There's no need to apoloeize, You can make it up to me by do ing n favor actually have a reques Ryoma: Y-you do? You have only to say it and I'11 el Anything you es fuss over me? Avatar should Aqua Really, I don't need your kindness. You needn't have to make ne feel better by thinking of me be your priority no So instead, think of Kamui Ryoma: what does Avatar have to do with this? Azura: Ever since I arrived in Hoshido, yau treated Aqua : That kind of pure kindness that until now』 you gave ne the lave of a close family member ike 家族としての愛情は 本来私ではなく、 カムイに与えられるべきものでしょう? It was never meant far me, sa don't you think yau should give it to Kanui instead? But e both knoI was never supposed to be here. Avatar is your fanily! [リョウマ]そ、それは ! Ryona: Y-you ve got to be Ryoa: Azura, you're wrongl There's roon enough for both you and avatar [アクア]私はずっと あなたや白夜のきょうだいたち、 それからミコト女王と、 家族としての時間を過ごしてきた。 t have been you and our other iblings Azura: I e aluays been happy hr You and Queen koto made sure of that But no you should focus well this tine as a family koto, all come ins 私はそれで、じゅうぶん幸せだわ。 それよりも 今までできなかった分まで、 カムイを愛してあげてほしいの。 私のことを考えるより、 カムイのことを考えてほしいの。 And I'm happy with Just having that. Moreover... I wish you would give your love to Kamui, even more than you couldn't give to me Instead of thinking of me, I wish you'd think of Kamui 私の願いは、それだけよ。 Aqua: That's my request. That's all it is, really [リョウマ]ま、待ってくれ! アクア。 Ryo: Azura, wait! .. .Hnn. Is this why she's been avoiding me? 今まで俺を避けていたのは Aqua. So that's the reason you've been avolding me all this time..? End of B-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/467/43f.png "Azura x Ryoma - B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma C-Support Conversation ummar There are several removed and altered lines that had to do with their relationship as a family Ryoma is no longer his authoritative self and has tendencies to become aggressive at random parts Azura refuses his help in an almost angry manner, which does not happen in the original, where she simply expresses gratitude. The localization makes her seem rebellious instead of wanting to be helpful and independent. The original also shows a slight tension between the two because the characters are similar in how they see their roles, that of protectors/leaders, which is absent in the localization. One other change is how Ryoma was changed to instead try to force a social interaction instead of trying to help Azura out of selflessness #Torrentia!Downpour With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Translation we Azura: Goodness! These boxes are heavier than ふう。少し休憩しましょ Aqua Phe, should take a little break it's no wonder I'm tired, didn't think there'd ht この量は、さすがに疲れたわ。 [リョウマ]·.777 ?一人で何をしているんだ? | [アクア]リョウマ。い、いえ。別に私は何も [リョウマ]何も、じゃないだろう。 Ryoma Azura? What are you doing carrying all of those weapons by yourself? Aqua ? what are you doing here al alone? Aqua Ryouma. I- I'm not doing anything all that special Azura: It's not a problem Ryoma: Moving around weapons pack by pack? You can't call Blan 武具を幾つも運んでいるじゃないか。 そんな重労働、女一人の力では無理だ。 This kind of heavy work's impossible for one girl. But don't worry about it. Leave it to me Ryoma Blank いいから少し俺によこすんだ。 Blank アクア] Aqua [リョウマ]むつ·意外に重いな。だが Ryoma: Ack! This is surprisingly heavy. But this Ryoma: Here. Let me help with that of these are heavy! Some thing 何てことはない よし、これで半分以上、俺が運んでやる。 Ryoma: I've got it. I'1l get the greater half Aqua, you do those lighter ones Ryoma: Why don't you carry that lighter box over there? アクアはそっちの軽いものを頼む。 [アクア]あ、ありがとう… [リョウマ]それにしても…こんな量、 Aqua T-thanks Azura: Thanks, Ryoma Blank Ryoma: Which makes me wonder... what made you think to transport all this by yourself? なぜ一人で運ぼうと思ったんだ。 for help once なぜ俺達仲間に いや Why not ask us ter ie 俺たち家族に頼ろうとしなかったんだ? Aqua: I simply thought I could move it all by myself [アクア]一人で運べる量だと思ったのよ。 Azura: Blank それに 途中で誰かに助けを求めるのも、 なんとなく言い辛くて。 AquAnd well .. once I've started somethin on my on I tend to be reticent to ask others Azura: I'm sorry. I thi auay You know I hate bothering people or [リョウマ]まったく お前は昔からそうだな。 | Ryoma: For real?.. I suppose you've always been like that. Blan だが、これからそういうことがあれば、 遠慮せず俺を呼べ Ryoma: But from now on, if you find yourself in that kind of situation, I want you to call me Hithout even thinking twice about it Ryoma: It's not a bother! I'd be glad to help you. I'm here for you anytime. Really お前は俺の妹だからな 兄として、必ず助けてやるさ。 Ryoma: Come on, you're my little sister. We're familyl You brother's always going to help you out. an [アクア]リョウマ ありがとう。 Azura: Thanks Ryoma でも、気にしなくて大丈夫よ。 次からは、上手くやってみせるから。 But you don't need to wor Azura: Now about me? Excuse me se Next time, you 'll see that I've got it all done without help Ryoma: Ah! There she goes あいつが俺に遠慮するのは 昔から変わらないな。 Ryoma Azura, wait! だが…そうだな。これを機会にもう少し 親交を深めていけるよう、考えてみるか Ryoma: Always that same hesitation around me, she hasn't changed at all Ryoma: Hmm. I really thought she'd warm up to me one day. I've got to try sonething else End of C-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/460/b9a.png "Azura x Ryoma - C support")
![Charlotte/Xander S-support conversation The removal of lines in the localization, reduces the amount of characterization Charlotte gets during the support orrent ownpour Translat Nintendo of America Ver. content [マークス]よく来たな、 シャ ame Charlotte: This is...a place only the royal family can enter, I shouldn'tCharlott: Of course, Prince Xander. But..isn't this plac 王族しか入ることの reserved for members of the royal family? ですよね [シャーロッテ]感激です ずっと憧れていた場所ですから Charlotte: I'm very moved... This is the place I had always beenCharlotte: I'm deeply moved..'ve always wondered what it was dreaming of. Burt, why. to be here. [マークス]お前さえよければ、 今日から自由に出入りするといい。 Marx: f you'd like, Starting today, you can come and go wheneverXander: l would like for you to be able to come here whenever you wish. But for that to be possible, I must admit my feelings.. -ロッテ]えっ? Marx: What l mean by that is, this. -ロッテ [マークス]結婚指輪だ。 Marx: An engagement ring. ちょっ マークス様? こんなこと言いたくないですけど、 一つだけはっきり言わせてください。 Charlotte: W-wait a minute... ord Marx? 1 don't want to say this, butCharlotte: What are you.. .W-wait a minute...Iknow I'm normally Let me honestly tell you what I think. a ltd.e..silly, but can l say something up front and direct? Xander: Of course [マークス]あ、あぁ [シャーロッテおかしいだろうがよ!! 私の何に惚れたつつーんだよ! バカにしてからかってるだけなら、 そのきれいな顔に拳をめり込ませるわよ!! Charlotte: This is just weird, isn't h?l Just what part of me did youCharlotte: This..is messed up! Are you telling me you've fallen even fall for! If you tell me later that it's just a joke or something,I for me?l Because I'm warning you, I get revenge for jokes made make sure to sink my entre fist into that handsome face of yours!at my expense! ひどいことを言ってしまってすみません。 でも、これは正直どういうつもりなのか 理解に苦しみます。 Charlotte: I'm sorry for saying something so rude. But if what you're Charlotte: But if that isn't the case, then I apologize for my words. saying is the truth, then I must be honest and say that l have troubleI'm just struggling to understand what you're saying. [マークス]-私には常々、結婚願望があった。 しかし、無理だと諦めかけていたのだ。 Marx: .l have always wanted to get married. However, Ithought it Xander: Charlotte, I've felt a strong attraction to you since we was a lost cause for me, and had given up on that dream. Charlotte: A lost cause... in what way? Charlotte: Could it be that you actually prefer men? Is that n? Marx: T-that's not what I meant Narx: l am the first first met l would have said something sooner, but l was hesitant. thought a relationship between us would be too complicated. [シャーロッテ]無理ってどういうことですか? Charlotte: Complicated? How would it be complicated? [シャーロッテ]本当は男性が好きだとか? [マークス]そ、そうではない。 [マークス]第一王子の私と結婚するには 並の女では無理だと思っていたのだ。 しかし、シャーロッテなら大丈夫だ。 お前は器用で策士で情に厚く、 料理ができて、根性があり、腕っぷしが強い。 prince, for me to be wed with an average Xander: I felt that a prince should only be with someone of noble woman, it always seemed like it would be impossible. But if it's withblood. But as l thought about it more, and as l learned more strong, and about you...I realized it wasn't an impossible situation in the ou are どんな苦境でも good at cooking. H you're with me, I'm sure we would be able toleast I'm sure that we can work together to overcome any 一緒に乗り切ることができるだろう。 me any obstacle that came our way hardship. Charlotte: ...Are you really sure about this? would become the Charlotte: You're really tine with this? Wouldn'l ロッテ 本当にいいのですか? 私が暗夜王国の王妃になるんですよ。 ome [マークス]私がそれを望んでいるのだ。 You would. And that's what I would like. d to let my p Charlotte: Th-then... staring tomorrow. Would it be okay f we sent Charlotte: Hel..ls Marx: Of course. Caring about one's family that much is a wonderful | Xander: Hah, of course you send money to them. k's important Charlotte Then, what f opened the window over there, and Charlotte: Xander, l'm so excited for our future! Could you situation has changed a brt..Explaining the increase in how ome 仕送りさせてもらいますよ? send them each month, heehee. [マークス]もちろんだ 親孝行は素晴ら s parents. じゃあ、 そこの出窓から身を乗り出し、 この喜びを思い切り叫びますよ? cried out to the whole kingdom about how happy I am right now? Marx: f you did that. I would watch over you with a smile Charlotte: Your resolve is real, so you were being honest after me ne Just 私はそれを微笑んで眺めよう。 あなたの覚悟はわかりました。 喜んでお受けします。 all. Then. I gladly accept your proposal. Marx: The responsibility of Nohr's future also falls on your sh [マークス]暗夜王国の未来はお前にかかっている。 その働きに期待するぞ ders. You will have a fair amount of work. As my wife, and as the Charlotte: Yes! Just leave it to me! Now then, time for me to yell out では早速窓から叫ばせて クス]存分に叫べ。 あああああああああああ! Charlotte: BOODDYAAAH!! Charlotte: WH00000000000000000!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/089/275/515.png "Marx x Charlotte - Support conversation S")
![ire Emblem Fates - Azura x Leo Support The conversation in the Treehouse version has been changed into a hypothetically speaking" conversation, while in the original, Leon spoke about his own issues, that being his fear of being rejected in a love confession. Aqua in the original believed that he was speaking about another girl, she indirectly confesses at that point but tries to attenuate because she herself fears of not being the target of his feelings by claiming it's a non-romantic love, "I will love you as Mother has loved me". Leon sees through her and proposes The Treehouse version loses the subtlety and nuance #Torrentia!Downpour S-rank Support Conversatiorn Original NOA Localisation Leon: Aqua, will you listen to my troubles? Leo: Azura, I need some advice Aqua: Leon... If you're alright with me, then of course I will listen. Azura: Oh? Leon: The truth is... I'm afraid Leo: Say a man has grown to love a woman, but he's afraid to tell her how he feels. How should he go about proposing? I mean, hypothetically speaking... Aqua: Afraid? What are you afraid of? Azura: Mmm. That is a difficult situation. The deeper his feelings, the greater the risk... If she turns him down, his heart will surely be broken Leon: I'm afraid of being rejected... to the person I will confess to. Leo: Yes. It will Aqua: Leon... also understand that feeling. The want to be accepted is strong... because the pain of being rejected is too hard. he'll be elated Azura: But, then again, if he's really fallen for her and she says yes Leon: I guess that's right.. Leo: Precisely Aqua: However, when you fear being hurt, then you won't be able Azura:I know this is all hypothetical, but I think it's worth the risk to connect with anyone. It'll be okay, Leon. I'm sure you won't be You should go ahead and ask her, Leo rejected Leon: Aqua... Leo: What?! wasn't talking about me! Aqua: If, by chance... you get rejected... I won't reject you... I will Azura: Of course not. I'm just saying, in theory, if it WAS you, she'd love you as Mother has loved me say yes Leon: ..I'm sorry. I might have been a bit unfair Leo: Do you really think so? Aqua: What do you mean? Azura: I'm certain Leon: I love you Leo: Now you've taken all the fun out of it! Aqua: What!? Azura: What?! Leon: I wanted to convey my feelings for you Leo: Does it even count if the girl gives him a response before he asks? Aqua: Leon Azura: Heehee, I was just trying to help. You looked so stressed Leon: Yet earlier... I let you say that you won't reject me. With that, Leo: Do I still have to get down on one knee? my confession has no meaning. Because I feared of rejection... I made a mistake in the process... Aqua: Fufu. That's right. That was a bit sly. In any case, I still won't Azura: Of course you do! I want to hear you ask me properly reject you Leon: Aqua. Leo: As you wish, my love. Azura...will you marry me? Aqua: Sneakily or however else, I want you to say it again... As forAzura: Weren't you paying attention? The girl said yes me, I want to tell you... my feelings, too Leon: I love you, Aqua. I want you to marry me Leo: You are so frustrating. I can't wait to spend my life with you Aqua: ...Yes. Please take care of me [BLANK] End of Support Conversation S](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/088/492/652.png "Aqua x Leon support conversation S")
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Fire Emblem Fates Localization Controversy - Charlotte x Kamui significant B support alterations
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![fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma B-Support Conversation umma The lines are completely rewritten, some weren't present in the original in any way. The same issue remains with removal of anything related to them being a family (e.g. even the soldiers are part of this "family" even if they're not blood related camaraderie is taken out of the localization). The dynamic of the conversation Mchanges but not in a meaningful way, the swapping of lines and the rewrites are the main problem, in the original, they talked about their feelings more and their bonds were stronger. #Torrentia!Downpour Origin Translation With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Ryona: Aqua, do you have the tine for a bit of a Ryo a: Hello, Azura. Do you have a minute? [リョウマ]アクア少しいいか? アクア]リョウ ne Azura: Yes. Actually, I ve been Looking for you. Ryoma: No, I don't you the ather day? remenber that thing I told Ryo a: Ch? You took our conversation to heart? So can I help you wit お前に言ったことがあっただろう? 仲間として、そして家族として、 Ryoma: When I was talking about relyingon me a bit more, not just as a fellow ally, but as a member of the family? もう少し俺を頼ってほしいと。 (79T]え、ええ… [リョウマ]実はその事について、 Azura: Nothing! I just heard that you've beon talking about me behind my back Ryoma: well actually about that, I went and talked to some of the soldiers about it. Ryoma: Did you? Uh...well, that was a bit of a misunderstanding 軍の者達に相談をしてみたんだ。 Everyone started pitching their best advice to me like we were 皆親身になつて相談に乗ってくれた。 Azura : Was it리 Are you saying that you weren't talking about me? ideas to bridge thing tar out, they alding think of any miracle But even after 11, I *S talking about you, but not 俺がお前との距離を縮められるような妙策は we gap between you and .. 結局聞き出すことはできなかった… アクア]リョウ [リョウマ]すまない… [アクア]いいのよ、リョウマ別に気にしなくて。 Ryoma: The truth is, I as asking our friends for ant us to be closer Aqua: No, that's quite all right, Ryoma really it's not gyou fellou soldiers might have sone suggestions on 1いや、しかし… didn Azura: Ch, ny. I'n such a hard time Ryoma: Well you say that, but... [アクア]それにそんな話を当人の私にするなんて! その裏表のない一本気なところが、 リョウマ…あなたらしいわね。 [リョウマ]あ! ああ…確かに本人に 言うようなことじゃないな。すまない。 (777]それよりリョウマ… 私からお願いがあるの。 [リョウマ]な、なんだ!何でも言ってくれ! [アクア]私への優しさはもういいの。 無理に私を妹だと思わなくてもいいから… 私の代わりに、カムイを気遣ってあげて Aqua: And telling the object or your pleas for advice all about it .. Ryouma, that's just like you, you've no guile in your straight and pure Ryoaa: h, right non that you nention it, I probably shouldn't have been tolling you all that. sorry Ryoma: "sigh That's al right. 1 should've come to you instead. P Azura: There's no need to apoloeize, You can make it up to me by do ing n favor actually have a reques Ryoma: Y-you do? You have only to say it and I'11 el Anything you es fuss over me? Avatar should Aqua Really, I don't need your kindness. You needn't have to make ne feel better by thinking of me be your priority no So instead, think of Kamui Ryoma: what does Avatar have to do with this? Azura: Ever since I arrived in Hoshido, yau treated Aqua : That kind of pure kindness that until now』 you gave ne the lave of a close family member ike 家族としての愛情は 本来私ではなく、 カムイに与えられるべきものでしょう? It was never meant far me, sa don't you think yau should give it to Kanui instead? But e both knoI was never supposed to be here. Avatar is your fanily! [リョウマ]そ、それは ! Ryona: Y-you ve got to be Ryoa: Azura, you're wrongl There's roon enough for both you and avatar [アクア]私はずっと あなたや白夜のきょうだいたち、 それからミコト女王と、 家族としての時間を過ごしてきた。 t have been you and our other iblings Azura: I e aluays been happy hr You and Queen koto made sure of that But no you should focus well this tine as a family koto, all come ins 私はそれで、じゅうぶん幸せだわ。 それよりも 今までできなかった分まで、 カムイを愛してあげてほしいの。 私のことを考えるより、 カムイのことを考えてほしいの。 And I'm happy with Just having that. Moreover... I wish you would give your love to Kamui, even more than you couldn't give to me Instead of thinking of me, I wish you'd think of Kamui 私の願いは、それだけよ。 Aqua: That's my request. That's all it is, really [リョウマ]ま、待ってくれ! アクア。 Ryo: Azura, wait! .. .Hnn. Is this why she's been avoiding me? 今まで俺を避けていたのは Aqua. So that's the reason you've been avolding me all this time..? End of B-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/090/467/43f.png "Azura x Ryoma - B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo The support conversation is still completely changed from the original and it continus on that route. And from hair talk, we get to practice in the localization. It seems the original's humor was not to the liking of the locallzers and thought they could spice it up a bit more by replacing it and making any characterization present in the original disappear. It was either do or die, or rather, either characterization Soleil was meant to come to an accord with her inner feelings and her misunderstandings with Foleo besides showing how open she is with her feelings and behavior, which aren't present in the localization. Foleo is meant to not humor her misunderstandings and make a clear case about himself, besides showing some other feelings besides fear, rejection and outrage, that is, amiability which will soon turn https://karasucorps.wordpress.com/2016/04/14/fire-emblem-fates-support-conversation-foleo-x-a If you want to see all the documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour A Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Thanks again for fixing my hair Forrest! I still can't believe you get up this early ソレイユ? Foleo: S-Soleil? Youre not chasing me around Forrest: It's nothing. While my curls set, I mend 今日は追いかけてこないんですね and press my outfit. All this travel is hard on clothing! If you don't take care of things, they Solell:Foleo, you really..are a boy Soleil: I never thought about that before. 本当に男の子だったんだね Foleo: What? Forrest: I can tell....Now, let's see. I'm almost done with the back. You have a LOT of hair. So many girls would be jealous of your thick, shihy locks! Did you know that? Soleil: When I asked everyone they all said Seil: Really? みんな、 フォレオは男の子だって言うから… Forrest: Yes! I'm going to unpin this back You've finally come to understand. Thank the section and see how your curls are turning 僕は本当に男の子です! out. ...Oh dear っとわかってくれたんですね. 芯釓た。 Soleil: What's wrong? 残念すぎるよ." Foleo: Hehehe. You might say that, but there's Forrest: Nothing. nothing you can do about it. そう言われてもどうにもなりませんからね Soleil: Forrest! You just said, "Oh dear. That って自タの姿をよく見てよ。 ぱっちりした可愛い 抱きしめたくなるような華奢な体つき… You've got big, cute, wide eyes a delicate doesn't sound ike nothing! body that makes me want to squeeze you No matter how you look at it you look like a girl, don't you think? でしょ そう思われるのは構いませんけど それでもやっぱり僕は男の子なんです。 Foleo: I can't help it if others think like that .Forrest: Well, it's just...um... I didn't expect it to but I really am a boy after all is said and done. turn out quite so...frizzy Soleil: Yeah, I guess so matter what I do You are a boy, no Soleil: Huh? Let me see that mirror! If you hold he other one like so, I can see the back- ACK! 何がどうなっても男の子なんだもんね それじゃ 追いかける必要もないってことだからね That means I cant seduce you. and there's no Forrest! What did you do to me?! I look like after you これからは昔通のお付き合いをしましょうね. 男女の友だちとしてです。 Foleo: Let's just be friends, boy and girl. Let's have a normal relationship from nowon. Forrest: You look like a poodle! I'm SO sorry Soleil. I don't know what happened [ソレイユ] Soleil: Yeah For sorry, Foleo. Soleil: Well, I know what happened! You made me get up at dawn to look like this! you and chasing you 今まで追いかけ回しちゃっ Foleo: It's quite all right. We have solved the Forrest: I apologize. If I find you the right hat, it will be OK. Accessories make the look 誤解は解けたわけですから ああ これでやっと 普通にソレイユとお話しできますね。 Oh this means I'll fnally get to tak to you [ソレイユ] あたしと話せてうれしいの? Youre happy to Soleil: It's my fault. Im the one who dragged you into this. I should've left you and your super oute hair alone うふふ、 もちろんですよ。 Soleil: But I've done nothing but annoy you! And now, look at me! I better go shower Take ソレイユ? [ソレイユ] Soleil: Forrest, I can't use this! It's your expensive shampoo! Forrest: I want you to use it. If you can't have Foleo: W-what's the matter? Are you injured? curls, at least your hair will smell like roses どうかしたんですか? どこか苦しいんですか!? Soleil: I knew it. cute, youre cute Soleil: Aww Forrest: For what?! I made you look terrible! 男だってわかってても可愛いよ… さっきの笑顔なんて反則だもん。 Soleil: Even though I now know youre a boy, Soleil: It was really kind of you to help me, and youre still cute. I mean that last smile's so we had some good bonding time. Now that I cute it's practically against the rules think about it...it's sort of funny. Heeheehee! 男の子でも問題ない! 可愛いって気持ちに嘘はつけないよ! You may be a boy, but that's no problem! Feelings dont lie and theyre telling me youte 衷、 まさかこの展開は… Foleo: 0-oh my gods, not this.. Soleil: Yeah, that's it... no problem no problem Soleil: Haha! Good idea! Mwa ha ha mwa ha ha ha ha ha.. Foleo: T-There is a problem! A big problem!! Forrest: Wait up! Maybe you should borrow my Think about it. hat! とても問題ありますよ!! よく考えてください。 労の子を追いかけ回し ましてや頬ずりする女の子なんて とんだ恥さらしですよ! Rubbing her cheeks against him, did you think of the kind of embarrassment youre Soleil:Oh, it's much more embarrassing to 自分の気持ちに嘘をつく方が 恥ずかしいと思いませんか! you Foleo: No, not this time oh, that's it I just remember I have something I need to do. 今回ばかりは思いません 僕用事を思い出しました。 すみませんがこれで… [ソレイユ] ほら、いっぱい可愛がってあげるから! Dont run away Foleo! Look, Im going to make you my cute little pet! Foleo: Why must things be like this? うなっちゃうんですか!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/168/327.png "Soleil x Foleo A support")
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