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![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo As seen previously, the conversation is completely changed, instead of a confession from Foleo, we have a semi-non- friday Anyway, in the original, Foleo finally expresses his inner issues with how he thinks others see him, the localization misses that, actually, the localization misses any type of characterization, or at least, meaningful characterization. Soleil taks about her own preferences in romance and also shows a more embarrassed side which is usually absent from the really socially free Soleil. The localization talks about a bottle of shampoo. Oh and, it finally shows what they wanted to make Foleo become. If you've seen C, B and A, you'd know Foleo has some issues with his apperance in the original, the localization takes that out. Let that sink ih. If you want to see all the other documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Forrest: Hello, Soleil. Im sorry again about the hair debacle! You've looked so down ever since! I can make it up to you. I'd be happy to sew you like mine? Would that cheer you up? Soleil: That's really sweet of you, Forrest, but I that frown upside down," but sometimes that's Soleil:What's up with you, Foleo? YOU calling MY name. Will wonders never cease. don't think a cape will help. I always say,"Tun フォレオから声をかけてくれるなんて hard to do about you Do girls? har. I don't know ソレイユは 女の子が好きなんですよね? あはは 今更そんなことを聞くの? Soleil: Ahaha. You have to ask? Of course! I love cute girls! Soleil: Oh, that's not it! I'm bummed because you wont curls and I are hopeless! あたしは可愛い女の子が大好きだよ! 男の子じゃダメなんですか? Foleo: So you're not interested in boys? I mean Forrest: Why would you say that? There are other Soleil: I wouldnt say I'm not interested in them Soleil: Really? I thought someone super-cute like I mean, look there's no grace with guys, right? we could do besides har! [ソレイユ] 女の子の方が断然好きだよ。 だから、見てても盛り上がらないんだよね you would have tons of friends already So I don't get worked up when I look at them. Forrest: I have friends, but I've always got room やっぱりそうなんですか… Soleil: But I ove you My heart really gets going when I look at you and I just want to squeeze you ch so tight! Soleil: And what if I don't want to be your friend? でも、フォレオのことは好きだよ。 見ててきゅんき ゃんするし Foleo: Realy? You really think that of me? Forrest: Oh! well, in that case, I t be on my 本当にそう思ってくれているのですか? 僕は男なのにこんな見た目で… 気持ち悪いと思ったことはないんですか? boy, but I look lke this? Soleil: How could I ever think such a thing!! Soleil: No! Wait! I didn't mean it lke that. What if I want to be MORE than your friend? フォレオはとっても素敵だもん。 Why would I chase you around so much if you フォレオを悪く言う奴がいたら picking on you, I'1l give em what If for with my ソレイユ If that's true . then would you consider a それな 僕とお付き合いしてくれませんか? Soleil: You know that I have a thing for super cute girls, right? all? I love you. Forrest: Right..but you know that Im.. 僕はソレイユのことが好きなんです。 フォ· フォレオがあたしを好き! ? Soleil: Y-you love me? ご迷惑だったでしょうか? Forrest: Well, Soleil, I think youre pretty adorable ま、 まさかそんな No no Solell: Really? フォレオみたいな可愛い子に告白されて あたし、天にも昇るような気分で Forrest: Yes! You have so much energy. When you show up, you light up the whole room. I don't even mind all of the hair pulling and the Foleo: Soleil! Soleil: Wait a minute! You said I could borrow it 僕は真剣なんです 真剣に返事をして下さい Forrest: Im teasing! In fact, I have a gift for you I got you your very own bottle. ser Soleil: Youre right sorry. But, I ..just dont Soleil: What?! For me? You mean, I can smell like でも、あたし…わかんないよ あたしフォレオに好かれるようなこと I haven't done anything to make you love me いつも追いかけ回してただけなのに らですよ ソレイユは僕が男とか女とか Without worrying about whether I'm a boy ora too, you know girl You said you んな女性は他にはいません。 僕は あなたが好きなんです… There's no other lady lke that around. That's I love you. Soleil: Aww... Thanks, Forrest! You really know a girt feel special 返事を聞かせてください。 ソレイユ Soleil: D-Don't be so mean, Foleo Im the one [BLANK] |いつもはあたしか。説く方だったのに I love you too as a woman loves a man. フォレオが好きだよ 一人の男性として [フォレオ]本当ですか! Foleo: Realy? Soleil... that makes my day! れで僕たちは恋人同士ですね! [ソレイユ ちょっと…扌包きしめないでよフォレオ. Soleil: Aiie! Wait don't hug me, Foleo! どうしてですか? Foleo: Why? Youte always hugging me. Soleil: Being hugged is different from hugging! [BLANK] するのとされるのじゃ違うんだよ! Foleo: Well that's because youfe so cute and I [フォレオ]ソレイユが可愛いのがいけないんで すよ。それに, 自分の気持ちに嘘をつく方が 恥ずかしい ソレイユ言ってませんでしたっけ? Also, lying about what you feel is more embarrassing Isnt that you said, Solell? me レイユ]フォレオのいじわる Foleo: Ehehe. You can handle a little teasing. It's not as if I'm trying to embarrass you in front of BLANK] everyone. Im going to treasure you from now [フォレオ]うふふ·いじわるでいいですよ◇ 恥さらしにはなりたくありませんから。 今まで追いかけ回された分…これからは 僕があなたを可愛がっちゃいますからね。 逃がしませんよ. 僕の可愛いソレイユ。 as you used to chase me around. I wont let you get away, my cute little [ソレイユ] なんか Soleil: Oooh I dont know about this](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/169/eb8.png "Soleil x Foleo S support")
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![ire Emblem Fates- Sakura B-Support Kamui in the original on Hoshido's side is ignorant of Hoshido's ways (AKA Japan) because he was raised in Nohr (AKA Europe). In their text it's not conveyed at all They basically took out the subplot of "cultural differences" because of "cultural differences" What I think is particularly egregious is that there is this story criticism that Hoshido is portrayed as the angels, but you can see right there where the main character questions the veracity of their history and Sakura pretends to not know what he's talking about. If that isn't a not-so-subtle criticism of the Japanese government's historical myth-building shenanigans I don't know what is. It's an abhorrent simplification of a significantly more psychologically complex subplot. orig Translation Nintendo of America Ver [カムイ] じゃあ、練習いくよ? Avatar: .. So, let's get to practicing, cool? Avatar: Sakura, are you ready to start our conversation practice? 準備はいいかな? [サクラ]は、は、はい [カムイ]では ゴホン。 ! Avatar: All right.. ahem. Avatar: Then, let's begin. ahem. この前読んだ白夜の本のことだけど、 前半は史実かどうか怪しいと思うんだ Avatar: The other day I read this Hoshido [BLANK] book, and I have to say I wonder if the first half could really be considered historical なんというか… Avatar: Which is to sayI have a feeling that [BLANK] we're not doing a good job of thinking of how to verify historical truth. 歴史の考証が上手くできてない気がする。 [サクラ]そ、そうでしょうか [カムイ]歴史って、おもしろいよね。 そうだ、サクラが巫女になろうとしたのって、 Sakura: O-oh, oh really? BLANK] Avatar: History's pretty interesting, isn't it?[BLANK] Avatar i know! when you decided to become a priestess, I mean I bet you you wanted to heal the wounded and all, but. Avatar: Sakura, how old were you when you | knew you wanted to be a healer? みんなを癒したいっていうのもあると思うけど.. やっぱり神々の歴史についても、 興味があるからなんだよね? [BLANK] Avatar:l bet it was really because you were also drawn to the history of the gods, wasn't it? [サクラ]そ、そうかもしれません Sakura: P-perhaps Sakura: Uh.. I d-don't know [カムイ]白夜では神様へのお供えものって、 最終的にみんなで食べたほうがいいんだっけ? | Avatar: Did you do any special training or | studying to become a healer? Avatar: l can't remember, in Hoshido, when | you devote an offering to god, everyone's supposed to just eat it up in the end [サクラ]ど…どっちだったでし妨か.. ? [カムイ] …… [サクラ] [カムイ]サ、 Sakura: Y-yeah, how did that one go again... Sakura: Uh, I mean, I guess I d-don't know Avatar: Sakura Avatar: S-sakura. if you could... follow my Avatar: Sakura.. Try to calm yourself. Just [BLANK] calmly answer my questions, OK? もうちょっと会話を繋げてみようよ… [サクラ]ご、ごめんなさい カムイ兄様 私、どう話していいか lead a little more Sakura: I-I'm n-nervous all the time. Sakura: I, where to start, what to say, I just don't know anymore. [BLANK] わからなくなってしまって [カムイ15 。でも何度か会話の練習をしてー ! Avatar: Well, I did think that practicing some | Avatar: No need to apologize. Besides みて思ったんだけど、 chit chat would get us somewhere, but Ithink I've figured out what the problem is. サクラは会話自体が苦手というよりも、 Avatar: I'm beginning to think that it's less Avatar: You let other people intimidate you that you're not good at conversation and more that perhaps it's just that you're a little 人に対してちょっと臆病なだけじゃないかな? | Do you have any idea how that started? mi come you say? [BLANK] [サクラ]臆病 ですか? [カムイ]うん、だってちゃんと話は聞いてるし。 会話を繋げたくても先に恐怖心みたいなのが Sakura: Timid | Avatar: Yep, I mean you're definitely ! Avatar: I feel like it's more that you want to of fear getting in the way and that just makes Avatar: *sigh I see ng SO | [BLANK] 邪魔して、身体が拒んじゃってる感じだな。 | string together words, but there's some sort your body freeze up [サクラ] ……… [BLANK] Sakura [BLANK] [カムイ]ちょっと怖がりなところを治せば 会話の時にも改善されると思うんだだな。 Avatar: I think if we just fix whatever is making you scared, your conversation skills will be fixed too, but you know. Avatar: Sakura . do you have any inkling BLANK] what could be behind this fear? サクラ…自分が怖がりになっちゃつた 理由は何かわかるかい? [サクラ [カムイ]何か思い当たることはないかな? Sakura BLANK] Avatar: Anything at all come to mind? 解決の糸口があるかもしれないよ。 [サクラ]その…わ、わかりません。 [カムイ]そ、そう なら 仕方ないね。 I very well think it could lead to a solution. Sakura: That's , I don't know Avatar: O-oh Okay Not much we can do [BLANK] on now. then [サクラ]は…はい。すみません Sakura: R, right. Sorry to Sakura: B-but thanks...for today BLAN ありがとうございました [カムイ]ううん。どういたしまして。 Avatar: Oh no, don't worry about it Avatar: Haha, sweet Sakura. One of these days I'll get to you to stop apologizing! End of B-Class Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/086/235/a4f.png "Kamui x Sakura B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates- Sakura C-Support Summary Sakura's just trying to be polite, the model of a demure and shy woman who puts other people's feelings above her own. She's lying through her teeth to avoid telling Kamui something and it's obvious that Kamui is somewhat uncultured and doesn't get it at all. This is really freaking obvious in the Japanese. In any event, this starts tame enough, but the differences get worse as the conversations proceed. #Torrential Downpour Translation Nintendo of America Ver Avatar: Hello Sakura. How's it going? Sakura: Um, okay... I'm f-fine, I guess rigina [カムイ]やあ、サクラ。元気かい? [サクラ]えと あの その はい。 カムイ]あ、あれ? ちょっと間があっだナど ひょっとして、体調でも悪いのかい? [サクラ] ..いえ違うんです身体はとても 元気です [カムイ]じゃあどうしたの?…もしかして僕 嫌われてるのかな? [サクラ]そ、それも違います! カムイ兄様が嫌いなわけありません! ただ 私、人と面と向かってお話するのに 慣れてなくて [カムイ]そ、そうなんだ。ごめんね 突然話しかけちゃつて。 [サクラ]い、いえ 私こそごめんなさい。 Avatar: Hey, Sakura! Ya doing okay? Sakura: I'm... it's... that is... yes | Avatar: O-oh? I sense some hesitation, you're Avatar: You don't seem too sure about that? not coming down with something are you? Are you unwell? Sakura: No that's not it at all. My health is Sakura: Huh? No! I'm in perfect health. really just fine Avatar: Oookay, then what's wrong? Could it be I'm not wanted here? Avatar: Oh, I see. Then.. um, do you not just like me all that much? Sakura: N-no! It's not that I hate you! Sakura: What? That's not true! How could anyone dislike you, Corrin? Sakura: It's just... I, well, talking face to face [BLANK] with someone... l' m not used to it Avatar: Oh, oh okay. Sorry to bother you then Avatar: Every time I try to talk to you you always seem upset. Sakura: N-no... I should be the one to apologize. Sakura: I'm sorry! That's m-my fault. I'm terrible around people! せっかくカムイ兄様に声をかけていただいたのに。| Sakura: My brother finally speaks to me and | [BLANK] that's all I can say [BLANK] [カムイ]いや、そんな大層なものじゃないよ。 でも…そうだな。せっかKEから Avatar: Well, it's no big deal, really. But . that's it! Since we're talking now .. サクラの口下手を克服できるように、 僕にも何かできることはないかな? Avatar: What if there was something I could Avatar: Sakura.. is there anything I can do maybe do to help you conquer your awkwardness when speaking up? to help? [サクラ] え? Sakura: What? [BLANK] カムイ]根本的な解決はなかなか難しいだろう-| Avatar: It can be pretty difficult to tackle the | Avatar: If that's really what's bothering you. けど、 roots of an issue like this, but if the two of us maybe you could practice talking to me? practiced talking, I bet you'd start getting used to it and 人で何度も会話すれば慣れるだろうし サクラも人と話すコッカ 掴めるんじゃないかな? Avatar: Maybe, perhaps you might grasp [BLANK] how to talk to others? [サクラ]そ、そうでしょうか ? Sakura: I'm not so sure about that...? Sakura: D-do you think that would work...? [カムイ]うん! 論より証拠だよ 早速やってみようよ。 Avatar: It's settled! Practice over theory, ya Avatar: I do. In fact, I'll prove it to you! know! Come on, let's get started now! End of C-Class conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/086/233/55d.png "Kamui x Sakura C support")
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Fire Emblem Fates Localization Controversy - Dia and Joker P.2
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![Comparison for Fire Emblem Fates Voice Customisation (Male) JP ENG 口調の選択 Select a voice. 穏やか Calm 子供 大人 Young Mature 元気 Cheerful Source: JP-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbm-Gej9VM [4:12] ENG-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn99Y2TA3E1:49]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/090/469/3c6.jpg "Voices missing in the NA version - Fire Emblem")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Nishiki x Aqua As described in the A conversation, the tail is still important because it's not only used as a way to "expose the fox" like in folklore, it's a way to also expose other's lies. Aqua is being dishonest about her mental and physical state (she's really tired), and the tail entrances her for the purpose of putting her to sleep. This cut line "You remain so graceful in your strong resolve to live, and yet here, only with me, you show me your weaknesses.." Pinpoints exactly the problem in this situation All of this is cut in the localization The conversation is also a lot more direct with the confession, while the original tried to escalate it The general lack of depth and general childish dialogue that is ever present in every localized dialogue is also present here, obviously #Torrentia!Downpour Translation Nintendo of America Ver. Azura: Zzz... Zzz Nishiki: You're finally sleeping well . Aqua Here I am, gazing at your sleeping face Aqua, sleeping like that. She must be exhausted you've got the look of angel when you're like Kaden: Azura looks so peaceful when she's よく寝てるね アクア。 こうして寝顔を見てると アクアもまだあどけない顔をしている やっぱり色々と大変な毎日を 送っているんだろうな You really must be dealing with so many things Nishiki: Aqua, allow me to touch your hair. Since I'm always letting you pet my tail, just this It's only fair, right? I let her touch my tail little, you won't mind, right? Kaden: I bet she won't mind if I touch her hair. アクア、髪を触らせてもらうよ。 いつもしっぽを触らせてあげているんだか これくらいはいいだろう? Nishiki: Aqua. good morning. You know it's Kaden: Good morning, Azura already morning, right? アクア…おはよう。 もう朝だよ? Aqua: Yeah ah! Morning!? Azura: Wha?! Good morning? Did I stay here all あはは、 嘘だよ。 Nishiki: Ahahaha, I'm just joking Kaden: Hahaha! No. I was just kidding Azura: Oh! I guess I drifted off again. Your tail really does make an excellent cushion. You're regular pillow again BLANK] Once again I've fallen asleep curled up around going to ruin me! I'll never be able to sleep on a 私また あなたのしっぽを抱きながら 寝てしまっていたの? your tail again, have I? Nishiki: Yep Aqua: S-sorry! I've submitted to your kindness [BLANK] ご、ごめんなさい。 またあなたに甘えてしまっていたのね。 again, it seems Nishiki: That's just fine. You know I don't care if Kaden: That's OK. I wouldn't mind. Actually,I'd But more than that, I want to see your sleeping like it if you slept next to me all the time ボクはそんなこと気にしないからね。 それよりもキミの寝顔を ずっと見ていたかったな。 face next to me from now on I could gaze at your face until the morning Aqua: S-stop with the... weird jokes Nishiki: Does it sound like a joke to you? それこそ朝になるまでね。 [BLANK] ちょ、 ちょっと止めて…変な冗談は BLANK Nishiki: I love you, Aqua Kaden: Azura, I'm so in love with you. I could ボクはアクアが好きだよ 強く生きようと凛としていながらも remain so graceful in your strong resolve to watch you sleep every night. I know you havea live, and yet here only with me, you show me こうし lot on your shoulders with. But at least I can be your soft place to fall Won't you stay with me forever? things I cant help you て ses 弱いところをボクだけに見せてくれるキミ can まらなく愛おしいんだ BLANK Nishiki: You probably bear a grand fate far greater than any I can imagine And I think surely there's nothing thing I can do or you, nothing I can give you But I do think I can provide that place of peace BLANK キミはきっとボクには想像もつかないよう 大きな運命を背負っているんだろうね。 ボクにはきっと、それをどうしてあげること も foryou to re でもキミがこうして安らげる場所くらいは Will you join me 作れると思うから ク うん、私もあなたのことが好きよ。 こんなに心が安らかな気持ちになれる Aqua: Nishiki thank you. Yes, I do love you Azura: Oh, my! Kaden, if I had my choice, I'd When I'm with you, I feel like I can truly be at home! So I want to be by your side from now on, if never leave your side! You make me feel so at だからこれからもあなたの隣にいさせて? ou me Nishiki: Yes, of course. I'll be yours and yours Kaden: Then it's settled. You can have me all to alone foreve yourself...always ずっとボクを独り占めしておくれ。 ク Aqua: Yes, Nishiki [An element of the trance Azura: You have no idea how wonderful that magic is present in this line]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/094/833/430.png "Aqua x Nishiki S support conversation")
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