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The Elon Musk H-1B Visa Controversy refers to the backlash towards Elon Musk after he voiced his support for expanding the H-1B visa program in a viral X / Twitter post in late December 2024. The post was negatively received by many conservative fans of Musk, who began voicing their disapproval of Musk for his support of the program, which some believe is taking away jobs from Americans and giving them to immigrants. Musk's support for the program resulted in many posts and memes about him betraying his conservative fanbase and "losing his conservative goodwill" in a single day. The controversy also elevated theories that Musk uses an alleged sockpuppet account on X named Adrian Dittman after Dittman entered an X Spaces call following the incident to defend Musk. As Musk continued to garner criticism, several prominent conservative accounts that spoke out against Musk were banned, including the ones from the Dittman Space, sparking theories that Musk was purportedly having them banned and unverified for voicing their disagreements with him. About a week into the controversy, Musk changed his name on X to Kekius Maximus as the debate spread to other platforms and garnered media attention.

Background

The H-1B visa allows employers in the United States to hire foreign workers in specialty jobs, such as IT, computer science, engineering and teaching positions.[1] Notably, Musk originally came to America to work on an H-1B visa.[8]

On December 25th, 2024, X[2] user @amasad posted, "Genuinely curious: Are there actual instances where qualified native born Americans couldn’t get jobs in tech because foreigners took all of them?" Elon Musk responded with a comment[3] reading, "There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley."

Amjad Masad @amasad Dec 25 Genuinely curious: Are there actual instances where qualified native born Americans couldn't get jobs in tech because foreigners took all of them? I'd be surprised if it's true because at any given point there are hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs in tech. 1.1K 1477 Kekius Maximus ☑ @elonmusk 6.6K 1.5M Subscribe There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley. 11:29 AM • Dec 25, 2024 7M Views

Later that day, X[4] user @MarioNawfal quote-reposted the comment with a post about the shortage of engineering talent in Silicon Valley, writing, "The U.S. semiconductor industry alone needs over 160,000 engineers by 2032, driven by $250B+ in new investments."

Musk commented on the post,[5] writing, that they need "double that number yesterday" and that "the number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low," urging people to think of the situation like bringing talent onto a sports team. The post gained over 24,000 likes in a week.

Mario Nawfal✶@MarioNawfal - Dec 25 SILICON VALLEY'S BIGGEST LIMITATION: ENGINEERING TALENT SHORTAGE The U.S. semiconductor industry alone needs over 160,000 engineers by 2032, driven by $250B+ in new investments. Demand for Al experts has skyrocketed, with Elon calling the talent war the "craziest" ever. Show more Kekius Maximus @elonmusk - Dec 25 Replying to @amasad There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley. Rate proposed Community Notes 1.5K Kekius Maximus @elonmusk 13 2K 12K ill 5.1M 1 Subscribe *** No, we need more like double that number yesterday! The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low. Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be. That enables the whole TEAM to win.

Later on December 25th, 2024, X[6] user @iamyesyouareno responded to the comment, writing, "There are over 330 million people in America. Surely, there must be enough among them to build your ultimate team? Why would you deny real Americans that opportunity by bringing foreigners here?" Musk responded:[7]

Your understanding of the situation is upside-down and backwards.

OF COURSE my companies and I would prefer to hire Americans and we DO, as that is MUCH easier than going through the incredibly painful and slow work visa process.

HOWEVER, there is a dire shortage of extremely talented and motivated engineers in America.

This is not about handing out opportunities from some magical hat. You don’t get it. This is blindingly obvious when looking at NBA teams, as the physical differences are so obvious to see. However, the MENTAL differences between humans are FAR bigger than the physical differences!!

iamyesyouareno @iamyesyouareno ⚫ Dec 25 There are over 330 million people in America. Surely, there must be enough among them to build your ultimate team? Why would you deny real Americans that opportunity by bringing foreigners here? 498 27 1K Kekius Maximus ☑ @elonmusk 27K il 1.1M 1 Subscribe ... Your understanding of the situation is upside-down and backwards. OF COURSE my companies and I would prefer to hire Americans and we DO, as that is MUCH easier than going through the incredibly painful and slow work visa process. HOWEVER, there is a dire shortage of extremely talented and motivated engineers in America. This is not about handing out opportunities from some magical hat. You don't get it. This is blindingly obvious when looking at NBA teams, as the physical differences are so obvious to see. However, the MENTAL differences between humans are FAR bigger than the physical differences!! . 1:56 PM • Dec 25, 2024 4.2M Views

Developments

On December 27th, 2024, Elon Musk doubled down on his defense of the H-1B visas in a post to X,[13] writing, "The reason I’m in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B. Take a big step back and FUCK YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend," garnering over 46,000 likes in four days.

The latter part of the statement is possibly a reference to a quote from Tom Cruise's character Les Grossman from Tropic Thunder.[17]

Steven Mackey @stevenmackeyman - Dec 27 "Stop trying to optimize something that shouldn't exist." "Let's optimize H1-B." Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal Dec 27 ELON: STOP TRYING TO OPTIMIZE SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T EXIST "Everyone's been trained in high school and college that you answer the question-convergent logic.... Show more 3:06 ASTRONAUT MAN 415 tl 869 11K 3.1M 1 Kekius Maximus ☑ Subscribe @elonmusk The reason I'm in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B. Take a big step back and F--- YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. What is H-1B visa process? Why does Musk support H-1B? How d 11:22 PM - Dec 27, 2024 13.9M Views

Online Reactions

Following Elon Musk's tweet, many conservative accounts that were known to support him started posting negatively about Musk and his support for H-1B visas. For example, on December 25th, 2024, X[9] user @TheRoyalSerf posted, "Americans: No more indians | Elon: No, more indians," garnering over 2,000 likes in six days.

Serf @TheRoyalSerf Americans: No more indians Elon: No, more indians 7:43 PM Dec 25, 2024 64.5K Views

On December 26th, a version of the Hanging Soyjak meme started making the rounds on social media, depicting Musk hanging with a ribbon on his chest reading "Destroyed good will in one day award." That day, the meme was posted to 4chan's[10] /pol/, SoyBooru[11] and by X user @TheRoyalSerf, although his post was seemingly deleted.

It was reposted by X[12] user @OAlexanderDK that day, who wrote, "Watching all the people Elon spent the last year pandering relentlessly to turn on him in under 24 hours is hilarious," garnering over 85,000 likes in five days.

Oliver Alexander @OAlexanderDK Subscribe Watching all the people Elon spent the last year pandering relentlessly to turn on him in under 24 hours is hilarious. Serf⭑ @TheRoyalSerf Follow T TESLA SPACEX 21.21 26/12/2024 151K Views 71 631 8:51 PM - Dec 26, 2024 - 11.1M Views THE DESTROYED GOOD WILL IN ONE DAY AWARD BIN ラ MP. 9,6K 567 ↑

On December 27th, 2024, a post was made to the subreddit /r/OutOfTheLoop[16] asking for further context into the controversy, garnering over 14,000 upvotes in four days. The top comment as of December 31st read:

Answer: The H1B visa program allows skilled foreigners to work in the United States. However, they need a us employer to sponsor them and if they no longer have the job, they no longer have the visa and can get deported

Elon loves this program because his workers can't simply quit when he treats them like garbage. For example, the mass exodus that happened when he bought Twitter did not include the visa workers

As for as America First ideals, Elon has no ideals. He only cares about himself.

Conservative Accounts Banned / Adrian Dittman X Spaces

On December 27th, 2024, X[14] user @raymo_g, who has since been suspended, posted a recording of an X Space consisting of several conservative X users who were negatively discussing Musk's support of the H-1B visas. Some of the accounts in the call have since purportedly been suspended and had their verification removed, which inspired accusations that Musk did this to silence dissenting voices on the platform.

The recording shows an account named Adrian Dittman, who is suspected to be a sock puppet run by Elon Musk due to the way Dittman supports Musk's posts, the similarities in their voices and the similar way they post, defending Musk and calling out members of the Space for being racist. On December 28th, clips from the video were reuploaded in a thread by X[15] user @henryksarat.

Adrian Dittmann / Elon Musk "Sock Puppet" Theory

Adrian Dittmann / Elon Musk "Sock Puppet" Theory refers to speculation that the Twitter / X account of a user named Adrian Dittmann is purportedly run by Elon Musk and that he uses the "Dittmann" account to praise himself on Twitter, amplify his ideas and appear "anonymously" in Twitter Spaces. The theory drew increased attention in mid-February 2024 after Twitter user "Liam Nissan" had their account vanish from the platform shortly after accusing Adrian Dittmann of being Musk, leading to backlash against the Twitter / X CEO over the following days. The theory again drew attention in December 2024 after Dittman appeared in several X Spaces to defend Musk following his support for an expansion of the H-1B visa program.

I Am Constantly Insulted On This Platform

I Am Constantly Insulted On This Platform is a viral X / Twitter post by Elon Musk in which he responds to a post reading, "Never insult the monarch," with, "I am constantly insulted on this platform." Musk made the post on December 26th, 2024 and it quickly went viral through reposts, inspiring memes, including as a copypasta and phrasal template, many of which make fun of Musk for making the post in the first place.

Kekius Maximus

Kekius Maximus is a catchphrase that is a derivative of "kek," itself a formerly prevalent alternative to saying "lol." The phrase is a combination of "kek," a common Ancient Roman name ending in -us (such as Flavius of Claudius) and the Ancient Roman surname Maximus. The catchphrase has been used as a humorous and more flavorful alternative to saying "kek" at least since 2014, primarily on 4chan. In December 2024, multiple $KEKIUS meme coins were created following entrepreneur and billionaire Elon Musk using the catchphrase on X / Twitter. The price of the coin surged in late December 2024 after Musk temporarily set "Kekius Maximus" as his X handle.

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Overview

The Elon Musk H-1B Visa Controversy refers to the backlash towards Elon Musk after he voiced his support for expanding the H-1B visa program in a viral X / Twitter post in late December 2024. The post was negatively received by many conservative fans of Musk, who began voicing their disapproval of Musk for his support of the program, which some believe is taking away jobs from Americans and giving them to immigrants. Musk's support for the program resulted in many posts and memes about him betraying his conservative fanbase and "losing his conservative goodwill" in a single day. The controversy also elevated theories that Musk uses an alleged sockpuppet account on X named Adrian Dittman after Dittman entered an X Spaces call following the incident to defend Musk. As Musk continued to garner criticism, several prominent conservative accounts that spoke out against Musk were banned, including the ones from the Dittman Space, sparking theories that Musk was purportedly having them banned and unverified for voicing their disagreements with him. About a week into the controversy, Musk changed his name on X to Kekius Maximus as the debate spread to other platforms and garnered media attention.

Background

The H-1B visa allows employers in the United States to hire foreign workers in specialty jobs, such as IT, computer science, engineering and teaching positions.[1] Notably, Musk originally came to America to work on an H-1B visa.[8]

On December 25th, 2024, X[2] user @amasad posted, "Genuinely curious: Are there actual instances where qualified native born Americans couldn’t get jobs in tech because foreigners took all of them?" Elon Musk responded with a comment[3] reading, "There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley."


Amjad Masad @amasad Dec 25 Genuinely curious: Are there actual instances where qualified native born Americans couldn't get jobs in tech because foreigners took all of them? I'd be surprised if it's true because at any given point there are hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs in tech. 1.1K 1477 Kekius Maximus ☑ @elonmusk 6.6K 1.5M Subscribe There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley. 11:29 AM • Dec 25, 2024 7M Views

Later that day, X[4] user @MarioNawfal quote-reposted the comment with a post about the shortage of engineering talent in Silicon Valley, writing, "The U.S. semiconductor industry alone needs over 160,000 engineers by 2032, driven by $250B+ in new investments."

Musk commented on the post,[5] writing, that they need "double that number yesterday" and that "the number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low," urging people to think of the situation like bringing talent onto a sports team. The post gained over 24,000 likes in a week.


Mario Nawfal✶@MarioNawfal - Dec 25 SILICON VALLEY'S BIGGEST LIMITATION: ENGINEERING TALENT SHORTAGE The U.S. semiconductor industry alone needs over 160,000 engineers by 2032, driven by $250B+ in new investments. Demand for Al experts has skyrocketed, with Elon calling the talent war the "craziest" ever. Show more Kekius Maximus @elonmusk - Dec 25 Replying to @amasad There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley. Rate proposed Community Notes 1.5K Kekius Maximus @elonmusk 13 2K 12K ill 5.1M 1 Subscribe *** No, we need more like double that number yesterday! The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low. Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be. That enables the whole TEAM to win.

Later on December 25th, 2024, X[6] user @iamyesyouareno responded to the comment, writing, "There are over 330 million people in America. Surely, there must be enough among them to build your ultimate team? Why would you deny real Americans that opportunity by bringing foreigners here?" Musk responded:[7]

Your understanding of the situation is upside-down and backwards.

OF COURSE my companies and I would prefer to hire Americans and we DO, as that is MUCH easier than going through the incredibly painful and slow work visa process.

HOWEVER, there is a dire shortage of extremely talented and motivated engineers in America.

This is not about handing out opportunities from some magical hat. You don’t get it. This is blindingly obvious when looking at NBA teams, as the physical differences are so obvious to see. However, the MENTAL differences between humans are FAR bigger than the physical differences!!


iamyesyouareno @iamyesyouareno ⚫ Dec 25 There are over 330 million people in America. Surely, there must be enough among them to build your ultimate team? Why would you deny real Americans that opportunity by bringing foreigners here? 498 27 1K Kekius Maximus ☑ @elonmusk 27K il 1.1M 1 Subscribe ... Your understanding of the situation is upside-down and backwards. OF COURSE my companies and I would prefer to hire Americans and we DO, as that is MUCH easier than going through the incredibly painful and slow work visa process. HOWEVER, there is a dire shortage of extremely talented and motivated engineers in America. This is not about handing out opportunities from some magical hat. You don't get it. This is blindingly obvious when looking at NBA teams, as the physical differences are so obvious to see. However, the MENTAL differences between humans are FAR bigger than the physical differences!! . 1:56 PM • Dec 25, 2024 4.2M Views

Developments

On December 27th, 2024, Elon Musk doubled down on his defense of the H-1B visas in a post to X,[13] writing, "The reason I’m in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B. Take a big step back and FUCK YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend," garnering over 46,000 likes in four days.

The latter part of the statement is possibly a reference to a quote from Tom Cruise's character Les Grossman from Tropic Thunder.[17]


Steven Mackey @stevenmackeyman - Dec 27 "Stop trying to optimize something that shouldn't exist." "Let's optimize H1-B." Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal Dec 27 ELON: STOP TRYING TO OPTIMIZE SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T EXIST "Everyone's been trained in high school and college that you answer the question-convergent logic.... Show more 3:06 ASTRONAUT MAN 415 tl 869 11K 3.1M 1 Kekius Maximus ☑ Subscribe @elonmusk The reason I'm in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B. Take a big step back and F--- YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. What is H-1B visa process? Why does Musk support H-1B? How d 11:22 PM - Dec 27, 2024 13.9M Views

Online Reactions

Following Elon Musk's tweet, many conservative accounts that were known to support him started posting negatively about Musk and his support for H-1B visas. For example, on December 25th, 2024, X[9] user @TheRoyalSerf posted, "Americans: No more indians | Elon: No, more indians," garnering over 2,000 likes in six days.


Serf @TheRoyalSerf Americans: No more indians Elon: No, more indians 7:43 PM Dec 25, 2024 64.5K Views

On December 26th, a version of the Hanging Soyjak meme started making the rounds on social media, depicting Musk hanging with a ribbon on his chest reading "Destroyed good will in one day award." That day, the meme was posted to 4chan's[10] /pol/, SoyBooru[11] and by X user @TheRoyalSerf, although his post was seemingly deleted.

It was reposted by X[12] user @OAlexanderDK that day, who wrote, "Watching all the people Elon spent the last year pandering relentlessly to turn on him in under 24 hours is hilarious," garnering over 85,000 likes in five days.


Oliver Alexander @OAlexanderDK Subscribe Watching all the people Elon spent the last year pandering relentlessly to turn on him in under 24 hours is hilarious. Serf⭑ @TheRoyalSerf Follow T TESLA SPACEX 21.21 26/12/2024 151K Views 71 631 8:51 PM - Dec 26, 2024 - 11.1M Views THE DESTROYED GOOD WILL IN ONE DAY AWARD BIN ラ MP. 9,6K 567 ↑

On December 27th, 2024, a post was made to the subreddit /r/OutOfTheLoop[16] asking for further context into the controversy, garnering over 14,000 upvotes in four days. The top comment as of December 31st read:

Answer: The H1B visa program allows skilled foreigners to work in the United States. However, they need a us employer to sponsor them and if they no longer have the job, they no longer have the visa and can get deported

Elon loves this program because his workers can't simply quit when he treats them like garbage. For example, the mass exodus that happened when he bought Twitter did not include the visa workers

As for as America First ideals, Elon has no ideals. He only cares about himself.

Conservative Accounts Banned / Adrian Dittman X Spaces

On December 27th, 2024, X[14] user @raymo_g, who has since been suspended, posted a recording of an X Space consisting of several conservative X users who were negatively discussing Musk's support of the H-1B visas. Some of the accounts in the call have since purportedly been suspended and had their verification removed, which inspired accusations that Musk did this to silence dissenting voices on the platform.

The recording shows an account named Adrian Dittman, who is suspected to be a sock puppet run by Elon Musk due to the way Dittman supports Musk's posts, the similarities in their voices and the similar way they post, defending Musk and calling out members of the Space for being racist. On December 28th, clips from the video were reuploaded in a thread by X[15] user @henryksarat.


Adrian Dittmann / Elon Musk "Sock Puppet" Theory

Adrian Dittmann / Elon Musk "Sock Puppet" Theory refers to speculation that the Twitter / X account of a user named Adrian Dittmann is purportedly run by Elon Musk and that he uses the "Dittmann" account to praise himself on Twitter, amplify his ideas and appear "anonymously" in Twitter Spaces. The theory drew increased attention in mid-February 2024 after Twitter user "Liam Nissan" had their account vanish from the platform shortly after accusing Adrian Dittmann of being Musk, leading to backlash against the Twitter / X CEO over the following days. The theory again drew attention in December 2024 after Dittman appeared in several X Spaces to defend Musk following his support for an expansion of the H-1B visa program.

I Am Constantly Insulted On This Platform

I Am Constantly Insulted On This Platform is a viral X / Twitter post by Elon Musk in which he responds to a post reading, "Never insult the monarch," with, "I am constantly insulted on this platform." Musk made the post on December 26th, 2024 and it quickly went viral through reposts, inspiring memes, including as a copypasta and phrasal template, many of which make fun of Musk for making the post in the first place.

Kekius Maximus

Kekius Maximus is a catchphrase that is a derivative of "kek," itself a formerly prevalent alternative to saying "lol." The phrase is a combination of "kek," a common Ancient Roman name ending in -us (such as Flavius of Claudius) and the Ancient Roman surname Maximus. The catchphrase has been used as a humorous and more flavorful alternative to saying "kek" at least since 2014, primarily on 4chan. In December 2024, multiple $KEKIUS meme coins were created following entrepreneur and billionaire Elon Musk using the catchphrase on X / Twitter. The price of the coin surged in late December 2024 after Musk temporarily set "Kekius Maximus" as his X handle.

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