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Michael Hartman @Muckbeast Following SorǐIC hllling] l i ind disturbing in the modorn online climate: devs who think ridiculing your customers (gamers) is a smart or appropriate move. Kentucky, USA わ ★ RETWEETSFAVORITES 39 51 10:19 PM-8 Mar 2015 Reply to @Muckbeast Michael Hartman @Muckbeast 13nm make games to bring joy to people. It is literally that simple. I deeply appreciate every single person who ever played one of my games 21 ★28 Michael Hartman @Muckbeast - 12m Once you feel comfortable mocking your customers, you really shouldn't be in this business. You've lost the love and passion for your craft. t 21 ★30

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Gamergate (harassment campaign) Article Talk From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For other uses, see Gamergate (disambiguation). Gamergate or GamerGate (GG)[¹] was a loosely organized misogynistic online harassment campaign and a right-wing backlash against feminism, diversity, and progressivism in video game culture. [2][³] It was conducted using the hashtag "#Gamergate" primarily in 2014 and 2015.[1][4][5][6] Beginning in August 2014, Gamergate targeted women in the video game industry, most notably feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian and video game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, among others.[7][8][9][10][11] The harassment campaign included doxing, r--- threats, and death threats.[12][13][14] Gamergate proponents ("Gamergaters") stated that they were a social movement, but lacked well-defined goals, a coherent message, and leaders, making Gamergate difficult to define.[15][16][17] Gamergaters claimed to promote ethics in video games journalism, claimed to be protecting the "gamer" identity, and opposed what they asserted as "political correctness" in video games.[18][19][20][21][22] Read Date Target Gamergate, online harassment campaign in 2014-15 that targeted women in the video game industry. The attacks were attributed largely to white male right-wing gamers who railed against the rise and influence of women and feminism in the industry. Gamergate served as a recruiting tool for the growing alt-right movement and helped spur the online “Pizzagate" conspiracy theory, which soon spawned the wider QAnon conspiracy movement. …………………………....…..……….…..... Attack type Victims Motive View source Inquiry XA 28 languages ✓ Perpetrators Internet trolls, particularly from 4chan, Internet Relay Chat, and 8chan View history Tools ✓ Gamergate August 2014 - 2015 Women in the video game industry See all media Online harassment campaign Zoë Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and others Gamergaters created conspiracy theories falsely accusing Quinn of an unethical relationship with video game journalist Nathan Grayson.[23][24][25] More broadly, they alleged unethical collusion between the press and feminists, progressives, and social critics.[17][26] [27] These claims were widely dismissed as trivial, conspiracy theories, baseless, or unrelated to actual issues of ethics in gaming and journalism.[28] [29][30] Gamergate supporters frequently denied that the harassment took place, falsely claiming it to be manufactured by the victims.[31][32] Misogyny anti-feminism anti- progressivism FBI investigation Gamergate has been described as a culture war over cultural diversification, artistic recognition, feminism in video games, social criticism in video games, and the social identity of gamers.[28][33] [34] [35] Many supporters of Gamergate opposed the increasing influence of feminism and so-called "social justice warriors" on video game culture. [2][36] Gamergate led figures both inside and outside the gaming industry to focus on methods of addressing online harassment, ways to minimize harm, and prevent similar events. [37] [38] [39] [40] Gamergate has been viewed as a contributor to the alt-right and other right- wing movements.[21][41] Video game developer Brianna Wu

Jalen Hutchinson Studied Culinary Science at Culinary Institute of America (Graduated 2014). Author has 304 answers and 740.1K answer views. 5y Not that I care that much either way, but it did expose a lot of corrupt game developers and game journalists. X Journalists would make claims of people like Anita Sarkeesian "playing video games all her life" when she openly admitted many times she is not a gamer and only starter recently (when it wasn't for an interview). Various developers trading sex or money for good reviews got exposed, journalists who accepted got exposed. People became a bit more critical about supporting a game just because the developer has a victim complex stating tat their game could have only failed because of sexism, instead of their own poor developing skills. What really sealed the deal was opposition often faking their own harassment. Anita sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn have been caught multiple times screenshotting "harassment" while showing that the harrasser's account name in the login. Or when someone called the police to help Sarkeesian against a "very real threat" she was posting about, only for police to find the harasser's messages were coming from her IP address. I just want honesty from the community, and the lies were mostly exposed by the "dreaded" gamergate. 1.3K views • View upvotes 26

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Randi Harper needs her safe space, apparently.

Randi Harper @freebsdgirl 4h I am sorry, journalists, but this is kind of a place for me to just vent. > like you, i really do, but not for this. <3 わ£3*20 ..。 Randi Harper @freebsdgirl 2h @Robobengt this one is more official-ish. less tweets, i think. I'm still figuring out my role as CEO & keeping normal persona. Randi Harper @freebsdgirl 5h If you send a follow request and I know you, I'lI likely approve it. If I don't know you... meh. maybe. わ ★11 Randi Harper @freebsdgirl 2h @Robobengt also a few famous people followed me and now i'm freaking out that i tweet too much & don't want to scare them off. P View conversation 3 Randi Harper @freebsdgirl 5h If you get a follow from @randileeharper, yes, that is me. Being a CEO is scary, and I want a private account for yelling :P Randi Harper @freebsdgirl 2h @tommckearney that's how it works with a private account. わ£3 . £31 *34

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In other news, KiA hit 30K subs today.

1203、Sep 15 10:41:09くcreesch> 1204 , Sep 15 10:41:09くcreesch> 1205. Sep 15 10:41:21くForest|-' 1206-Sep 15 10:41:25 <Forest L> 1207,Sep 15 10:41:41 〈Forest L> 1208.1 Sep 15 10:42:28くcreesch> 1209, Sep 15 10:42:49 <IAmAN00bie> 1210. Sep 15 10:42:50 <Forest I-' 1211, Sep 15 10:42:56 くForest.> <Piemonkey> apparently KIA is censoring people themselves «Piemonkey» hahahahah oh who the f--- cares 50s e eie I have no idea who are what KIA is except an car manufacture Forest L: why, they're hilarious kotaku inaction the #gamergate people | lobyUR Genshoe en re

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Claim made by ToddInTheShadows

Toddln TheShadows @ShadowTodd @HalfTangible Gamergate had dedicated chatrooms devoted to harming people and 2:22 PM - 8 Mar 2015

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Arhur Boop Gies (Polygon, @aegies) complains about sexy women in games yet owns a SuicideGirls account.

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Ryulong on RationalWiki

I have undone your (Ryulong) most recent revision deletion. Unpleasant yes but it revealed nothing personal about you. Someone being cuntish towards you is not doxing. -MtDNotorious Sodomite 21:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC) AThis. Please stop using revision delete & other sysopabiliies inappropriately & please stop trying to plead some sort of special status as an excuse for breaking community standards. Thanks. Weaşe?óid'^Methirks it is a Weasel 22:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC) AThis. I get that your desire to be a voice for Gamergate has brought you a lot of bad attention. And I think you'd have to agree that RW has done as much as it can to protect you from that attention when it follows you here. At the same time, RW was around before Gamergate, and it will be around long after Gamergate, and Gamergate is not what's going to make us change the way we keep our community running. Please respect our minimal standards while you're here. Thanks. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 22:31, 6 March 2015 (UTC) My last action was to rev del a message someone else had already reverted from being here. It counts as inappropriate content. I don't need gators getting ideas Ryūlóng慌司01:26 7 March 2015 UTC Again: Please stop using revision delete & other sysop abilities inappropriately & please stop trying to plead some sort of special status as an excuse for breaking community standards. WeaseforďMethinks it ls a weasel 10:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC) Ryulong, if you don't what your mistakes to be used against you, perhaps you could try getting it right first time? Bicyclewheel 18:55, 7 March 2015 (UTC) Stop paying attention to it then for f---- sake-Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC) You probably shouldn't tell a lady who's been here pretty much since day one, and has done an amazing amount of the heavy lifting required to make this community what it is, what she should and shouldn't pay attention to. It's not much of an exaggeration to say this is pretty much Sophie's wiki. Read what I said above: RW was here before Gamergate, and will be here after Gamergate. We've gotten through much worse without compromising the 3 or 4 rules we have. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 23:52, 7 March 2015 (UTC) If the whole purpose is to ignore what was said why is so much time and energy being put into telling me off for having removed t in the first place? That's what m getting at here. Ryū óng 琉 04:23 8 March 2015 UTC

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Michael Hartman, the CEO of Frogdice, tries to have a reasonable conversation about female costume designs with a Polygon journo, but is unable to get through to him.

Arthur Boop Gies @aegies-6 mr one step forward followed by one step back pic.twitter.com/5MmbMUNcB RETWEETS FAVORIETEN 20:57-6 mrt. 2015-Details Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 17 uur @aegies why is that a step back? Why can't there be variety and all spectrum of character designs?7 Why only one standard? わt3 ★ Arthur Boop Gies @aogies-17 uu @Muckbeast why is "hypersexualized versions of characters" such a regular part of the spectrum? Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 17 uur @aegies Because people like it and it sells. Like every industry in existence Best practices is variety, not expulsion of all sexy stutf Arthur Boop Gies@aegies 17 u @Muckbeast it sells to some people, and is profoundly alienating to others わ £3 Michael Hartman @Muckbeast 17 uu @aegies So again, you're saying only one group of people get to have their preferences catered to? Sorry, that's selfish and unacceptable Michael Hartman @Muckbeast-17 uur @aegies Sorry, but I reject that completely. Variety is the ideal to aspire to, not appeasing just a single set of preferences Arthur Boop Gies@aegies 17 uu @Muckbeast that specific character isn't variety - first, that kind of design is Michael Hartman@Muckbeast-17 uur @aegies Depressingly? Starving children in Africa is depressing. An artist creating a character you don't lke is trivial in the extreme Arthur Boop Gies @aegies-17 uu @Muckbeast if people can't be affected by video games then what are you doing with your life? Michael Hartman @Muckbeast 17 uu @aegies An emotional impact from a video game is wonderful. Being depressed" someone designed a character in a way you don't ike is not Arthur Boop Gies @aegies 17 u @Muckbeast thanks for establishing what people can't care about. わt3 * Michael Hartman @Muckbeast 17 uur @aegies You know as well as I do that getting "depressed" because an artist creates something you don't ike is not a mature reaction Arthur Boop Gies @aogies-17 u @Muckbeast it's not "one artist." please. you're a veteran developer. you know damned well how many committees that design went through Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 16 uur @aegies Im on board with lamenting lack of variety throughout the industry But no single "sexy" character is a step back in my view Arthur Boop Gies@aegies 16 uur @Muckbeast it's not one "sexy" character. it's a space full of them. it's largely the extent of their character development Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 16 uu @aegies Like I said, I'm with you on lamenting lack of variety. But you cant single out one and call it a step back. Not fair to the artist Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 16 uu @aegies 3/5ths of Frogdice's art team are women. It they make a sexy temale character or armor, that isn't a step back it's their vision Arthur Boop Gies @aogies-16 uur @Muckbeast and im not saying you or anyone else does it intentionally. but industry standards speak louder than "m not sexist! Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 16 uur @aegies I think our industry is plodding slowly towards variety, which I like But I still can't call any single "sexy" piece a step back Arthur Boop Gies @aegies 16 uur @Muckbeast and, again, this character doesn't exist in a vacuum. it's not one character, it's most of them Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 16 uu @aegies I don't think that changes anything. it doesn't make a single sexy character a "step back". That implies ANY sexy design is bad. Arthur Boop Gies # '오 Volgen @Muckbeast i'm sorry. you don't get to exist in a reality separate from the rest of gaming and pop culture わta ★ 22:27-7 mrt 2015 archive.today/Ru2zA Michael Hartman@Muckbeast 16 uu @aegies In my reality variety & artistic expression are respected, and no single vision is a "depressing "step back." It is a good reality わ£3*1 TWEETS VOLGEND VOLGERS 18,7K 577 51,5K Volg je nu Michael Hartman @Muckbeast CEO of Frogdice, Inc, game developer for 20+ years Interested in game and gaming industry news. Love geek stuff. Keeping an eye open for new talent Lexington, KY frogdice.com

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The results of Brianna Wu's game.

More than 250,000 people downloaded the free version in the first six months, and the sell-through rate for the $5.99 full version hit four times the industry average of about 2 percent. so she's earned roughly $120k gross if we take these numbers. Apple supposedly takes a 30% cut on average, which leaves her with S84k to offset her $400k development budget. No further comment

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Randi Harper tries to stop harassment, apparently.

Deepak Saxena Friends with Jono Bacon I'm a kernel dev, been doing it for almost 15 years and yes Linus and other maintainers can be not so nice sometimes. I myself have been guilty of yelling at someone over email when they were just not making technical progress no matter how much handholding I did, however, Randi Lee Harper, the personal attacks and meaness you are spewing on this thread goes above and beyond anything I have ever seen in the kernel community 10 mins . Like凸1 Randi Lee Harper Could it be that I'm p----- off that a bunch of RedHat employees decided to jump into my status and start telling me that sexism in tech isnt a real thing because they haven't seen it? Go set yourself on fire Also, cry more because a woman in tech was mean to you. Sorry, but I'm out of Kleenex. You know, from the 20 years that Ive been putting up with your b-------. 1 min Edited - Like 1

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Bob Chipman says stuff. DiGRA retweets.

Bob Chipman BACK If you wouldn't hire an out-and-proud skinhead to work your con, you shouldn't be hiring Gators. Pain and sinplk. わ ★ Katherine CrosS RETWEETS FAVORITES 51 1:57 AM-7 Mar 2015

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Remark made by Doug Tennapel on his 8Chan thread.

▶ TenNapel 03/07/15 Sat 20:48:46 ID b782fa No.2569899-2'A 929ー2589920 >>2gess32 >>25es 35-25e9944-2559949 )-25ess 52-5 9959 222 e 961-25ess2 2589973 My Christianity will not only clash with liberals, but will likely clash with everyone who reads this at some point. If you and I spend enough time together, and I dont care if you went to my church, you and I are going to clash at some point. So my bigger question with anyone about anything isn't "are we going to clash?" but "How are we going to treat each other when we do? If I disagree with a Mormon, and I do, then do I try to kill his career as a game dev? If I disagree with a Satanist, do I try to undermine his whole life as if he doesn't deserve to make a living off his craft? This is where the liberals in my life have acted really crummy... like bad liberals. And I'm far more liberal in how I treat them. That said, look at this group. Look at my audience. I have many, many LGBTs who read and love my work. Of course, the left says they're sock puppets but that's the left's job. I know my people and they treat me very well. So the damage the press or the industry has done to me is NOTHING compared to the benefit and love I've experienced from my audience. I'll swallow the left's hatred any day so long as I get to serve my audience. Really, it's insulting to me but it's not that hard once you get a thick skin. Many of you are learning that now.

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Statement made by a gamedev on 8Chan

Ive a game dev over the past couple of years working for a company on a pretty big game with a substantial community you all have probably heard of. We have a presence at PAX East Though I'm not a woman myself, I sympathize with the women who made those quotes because I find myself in a similar situation of being afraid to speak up about something I care about, Gamergate and the fight against s----- games journalism. The difference is that they fear getting harassed online while I fear being ostracized by friends at work or, at worst, losing my job, especially since Im not that experienced outside of school and don't hold any clout at all. If you think about it, though, all of our fears stem from the same thing, games journalism perpetuating the idea that Gamergate (and gamers in general according to some people like Leigh Alexander) is the worst thing to have ever sprung from the internet Now I'm not sure whether or not the dangers to my employment are real, but it's just not something I want to risk. It's why I never comment on Gamergate outside of chans. Even before GG I barely use my reddit account pretty much only having it to express my critical views of OWS back when it was a thing, and I haven't even commented on r/KiA at all because I don't want that history following me, especially if I was to post on our game's subreddit as a known dev. And Id never consider ever participating on Twitter since the only point of it seems to be mobs arguing in 140-character bites and the fastest way to get actual harassers calling my employer Funny enough, even though Ive never seen anyone at work ever mention Gamergate since the early days of the Quinnspiracy when the TotalBiscuit thread on reddit got nuked (which was simply viewed as a peculiarity at the time), someone this week posted to our internal general chatroom the Yahoo! article on this very panel I was really worried for a moment. I thought that it was going to start up a conversation about how terrible Gamergate is. Id be forced to decide between staying silent and watch the misconception circulate within my own company of speak up and put myself at risk. Fortunately, nobody made a reply about the article with the chatroom moving along with other topics All in all, s--- sucks

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About the speech Brianna Wu gave...

"I've had 48 death threats now in six months," Wu said in an interview Friday. "To stand up to GamerGate, that's my choice. I can't make that choice for the women I work with." But Wu made two public appearances at the convention, including a Friday night live edition of the gaming podcast Isometric. Even though the GamerGate controversy has made national headlines, Wu's appearance did not attract a large crowd. The podcast took place in a room designed to hold hundreds, but about 70 turned out. These included two plainclothes security workers, gruff and denim-clad, who cast suspicious eyes toward anybody who got near the stage.

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