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![Anonymous 20 hours ago No.9349899 []9349957 9349978 s not the writers or animators, it's the directors. If the director doesn't give the writing team the freedom to write a good story, then it will come across as lack-luster. As a guy who i currently directing a project, I can't let my ideas get in the way of production. I can propose ideas, but my main focus is to keep everyone on track and make sure the team is working on the same project and not trying to do their own thing, and because of that, I have to trust the witers more than myself to make well-written stories. There's more to a show than animation. The writing in the episode seems off. I've said it before, and Il say it again: it feels as if the writers took the most popular phrases of the characters and tried to build the characters off that, making them fall flat and makes them come across as two dimensional. As a musicfag, I payed closer attention to the music, and what I have to say is that it's alright. Nothing special, just a guitar riff here, a little phrase here, and it isn't an accompaniment like it should be. Hopefully maturely. I can bet money that Mando will put off any genuine criticism as "trolling if he knows it's from /mlp Anonymous Sat Mar 23 05:33 18 2013 No.9288769 Quated □ Anonymous 16 hours ago No 9355987 [r] 93561 262-9356871 t most likely won't. You know how 9geg is the center of all things fun nowadays? This episode is essentially the 9geg of fandom works. The animation is fantastic, and while I (and many others) do not agree with the voice direction of Rainbow Dash, it's not "bad". There's a lot of quality put into the episode. The problem is that all the casuals will 9348471 Why has double rainboom been getting such a poor reception on /impl? I have seen the first half that was posted on Youtube. It wasnt bad, but my God it got bland quickly Why so many in-joke references? That's one of the easiest and lowest forms of comedy one can do Granted, most of those jokes have nothing to do with the story as they're just there for the comedy factor, but it's still annoying to see. It's like someone tapping my back as love the episode for spouting in-jokes and memes, whereas the critically thinking people will point out the flaws in the voice acting and writing Sadly, the majority of people are not the critically thinking ones, and the episode will therefore be loved by everyone The worst part is people will white-knight the whole thing for being fan-made. That is going to be the number 1 excuse for lack of quality wniting and voice acting. "Gve it a rest, it's fan-made TGSBISWAGOLYINE Sat, Mar 23, 2013 22:52 No. 36577484 l try to watch a movie while he says "hey did you see that?" Ok s such a shame because it started off really good too. It had slow pacing, but I was enjoying myself. The moment Rainbow Dash skybombs into Ponyville though, rehashed jokes suddenly appear left to right. It was like eating a delicious slice of cake only to discover that it had horrible aftertaste most "quality" fandom stuf any case, to answer your question, some、 if not most of m1p/was bothered by Double Rainboom due to most of the problems l listed: pacing and rehasing overdone in-jokes Which is to say it's pretty ok by YouTube standards, but imo nowhere near show quality To me its mostly the dialogue and general writing annoy me more than anything else...even the voice acting Animation seems great, but I can't really tell with the video quality Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) Sun, Mar 24, 2013 20:34 No. 36577863 Well, Here's the way I look at it If the characters and dialouge are good, then I could just say "F--- everything else" to the animation and the like. I mean, I LOVE rainbow dash presents and Unforgotten realms, and the animation on those is pretty bad Its like video games myself loving Can't Last edmed at Sat Mar 25. 2013 22:54 FluttershutterlvBKzsttybU Sat, Mar 23, 2013 11:49 No. 36577174 Anonymous Sat Mar 23 07:13:58 2013 No.9289783 Quoted by: >>9289793>>9291359 >>9291454>>9291481 File 136406454285 jpg-Q 1.70KB , 429x362、HN1 0072 JPGJpg ) 9293832 3 Eh, I didn't think the Touhou anime was al that great, it still had a lot of fan-service and a very uninspired plot when you consider the games. It didn't really take the senies very fall as far as characterization/writing goes, although it still would have sufficed as cut-scene to the games. Most of the posters are criticizing the portion of the episode that we've seen so far due to the egregious amount of fandom references. That is something that isn't chalked up to "well fanmade is obviously lower quality," because there are fan vids that don't have such. Even that one fanmade episode of which I won't mention by name didn't have that kind of problem. Still I see what you're saying. It sure as hell didin't decent into LE Cimo's mathclass/Bad Apple/Take it Easy memes and injokes and at least tried to seem like an episode, and not a poorly thought out I've only seen a couple parts of the leaked portion, but what I saw had too high a concentration of fan references. It missed the point of Darpy gags being either very short and or far in the backround, the Scootaloo chicken billboard joke (right after a short flight scene, that lovely moment got killed by the chicken joke), and I was shown a screenshot of a paraspriteface hidden in the clouds. This fan-episode' is clearly a step DOWN from the show rather than trying to take it any further. It wasn't made for love of the show but rather zeal for the fandom which shows, and as you said shows the mentality If it were intended to be a goofy parody like FiW or a short <1 minute video like the Dan Vs. FiM videos, I'd have zero problems with that. But, if you're advertising the video as a full authentic fanmade episode, you should have a tone reminiscent of an authentic episode. Can you think of a single sonic fanwork or episode that lives up to and does good for the series? Because I sure as well cannot, you can just see the kind of quality pouring out of rehashed flash/sprite garbage across Newsgrounds. Nothing even lives up to the standards of the Comics or old cartoons, which are still derivatives even. Let's not be the Sonic fandom. Let's step it up. If we have the capability to emulate the animation, we should be able to pool in writers to make something valuable for once That's why Snowdrop is better in my opinion. Despite lower quality animation and not-super-uber-famous fan VAs, I was able to be immersed in it without being reminded that "THIS IS A FAN EPISODE LOOK HERE'S LE EPIC MAYMAYS XD and breaking the suspension of disbelief. し] Anonymous Sat Mar 23 02:26:36 2013 No 9287363 File: 22 KB, 450x351, 450px-Mori_Uncanny_Valley.svg[1].png [View samel [google] [Report DemonioBlanco Sat, Mar 23, 2013 15:44 No. 36577299 Quoted by: >>9287385 >>9287393 then there should not be any build up, or special care for it it should just exist and pass hke other fan videos but nooo, this one have the bless of hasbro or the hub (dont remember), so people build some big spectation, when it is just another fan video. To elaborate, I think the uncanny valley explains the hate pretty well. By definition, the fans are very used to all the nuances of the show When presented with something that's admittedly -quite close in some a$pects, it upsets the brain and provoke$ disgust Anonymous Sat Mar 23 12 43:58 2013 No. 9294430 It might sound weird, but i feel like the project should have had an editor, maybe someone who (either by VCam or by applying motion tweens on the various movieclips) could get more interesting shots, provide more pans and zooms, and do more cutaways so the viewer didn't feel like he or she was stuck in one place Anonymous 13 hours ago No.9358951 [9359087 With the way Flash works, you can almost say that you can be a camera man in a flash animation, and clearly the camera work is poor or non-existant I haven't watched it yet. Does it still just start out with Twilight and the potion right there? That's what disappointing me the most about the premise, is that the wacky happenings seem to be at the forefront of the story instead of the characters they're happening to. All I'm asking is one scene before starting the story proper, to set up the INTERNAL conflict with the focus character. Then you have the potion, the EXTERNAL conflict show up to both Anonymous Sat Mar 23 02:36.37 2013 No.9287453 29287393 It looks like they didn't create a rule book at the start. For example, the show only does simple rostrum pans, they don't do perspective pans (where the foreground moves at a different rate to the background). highlight and exacerbate the intemal conflict I have a hard time caring about whatever the f--- happens to Rainbow if it has no point. Why waste the idea of a Double Rainboom on a conflict that holds no personal weight to Rainbow It would be like if someone made a Wes Anderson movie tribute but they had fawlessly clean audio for the dialogue and a Hans Zimmer style score. You could put al the endearing dialogue, open interior sets and herself? y wrong. Even the f------ IDW Rainbow minicomic had a better character setup than this. Anonymous Tue, Mar 26, 2013 14:02 No. 38349974 Slashy 4 hours This makes me feel especially bad to hear after-the-fact because early on in the process, there was an opportunity to insist on a script revision whale that was still possible. I don't think I need to say much of Twilight Sparkle. Rina's spent more than a year working at the impression (which is her own voice combined with the vocal pattems and nuances that Twilight uses on the show) and it is pretty amazing. I think I overestimated Zach's ability to act as a writer and director, clearly he has the talent for the latter but not the former. He is not a good judge of his own work and was too close to what was essentially a personal and school She can't whine, she has no basis from the show to go off of so she has no idea how exaggerated the effect should be, she doesn't have enough of a sample to draw nuances so it sounds forced. This is really the only problem with her performance, and to be honest it wasn't easy to figure out (hell i couldn't explain why before now), even she wasn't exactly sure why the performance felt forced, but I've informed her of this. Twilight Sparkle's voice acting was... for the most part pretty great, but I would hope that a project like this could have put more effort in ensuring that the delivery was more natural especially when 25% OF TWILIGHT'S DIALOGUE IS WHINING GLaDOS Sat Mar 23 16:13:57 2013 No 9298078 e2OP This sucks. Everyone is out of character and the facial expressions and motion transitions are terrible. Im not saying I could do better animation, because I can't animate for s---. But this is just bad. Slashy !!MSolL/2VmqW 3 hours ago No.9364910 [ Let me preface this by saying that Emi is a great VA and let me remind everyone that Double Rainboom's faults lie not in its voice acting (which I'd argue is pretty amazing) but rather in its Anonymous Sat Mar 23 16:15:39 2013 No.9298115 Also please understand that this is being judged compared to the show. Now without further ado, let's begin. 9297922 Except by those standards, Rainboom did it well too- and with only half the episode to date. It's clearly going for low humor, and I got a stack of cheap laughs out of it. Snowdrop goes for feels, but it didn't quite evoke the feelpower it should due to dialogue issues. Rainboom is never going to win any awards for senious storytelling. It's the MLP equivalent of a Loony Tunes short, it deliberately hops away from the storyline to make a joke (Derpy scene), but it's obvious early on that this animation is going to be LOLRANDOM as intended. They picked a VA that didn't have much experience with the role and was pretty much entirely reliant on the director to get the impression down. A lot of nuances (especially the voice cracks and wildly fluctuating pitch are missing) are missing entirely, and the delivery on some lines contradicts how she speaks on the show The glaring part is that her raspiness sometimes is missing, leading to lines sometimes sounding far too girlish or nerdy. Very rarely do we hear the raspiness disappear on the show. Her pitch is too high on some lines, which leads to her sounding far too girly and pretty much messing up the impression. Finally a lot of emotion is missing from some lines, or rather improper emotion. I'm pretty sure Flamingo had bothered to seek out scenes from the show and study how Rainbow Dash behaves in certain situations the dialogue and delivery would be significantly better. Far too many lines are missing her snarky attitude fierce determination, or disregard for being polite, it is part of the reason she sounds far too nasally on some lines and why so many people think they are hearing Ash Ketchum](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/519/269/d77.png "d77.png")
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