Destiel vs. SuleMio Tumblr Top Ships Bracket

Submission 2,522

Part of a series on Tumblr. [View Related Entries]

I love you Castiel/Dean Suletta/Mirione 0.12 2401 4301 11.560 35.7% 64.3% 286 0.168 21.4563 1.0287 244 GUND N/A 0.1902

DESTIEL FANS You took everything from me SULEMIO FANS I don't even know who you are

“this is the destiel website! this is the destiel website!” meduka meguca Anonymous 02/06/11( File 1297013139.jpg-(43 KB, 170x156, kya our website now

Sulemio is beating Destiel in the Tumblr Ship poll by over 11,500 votes

yakapin Follow why should i give destiel credit for "laying groundwork for shows like the witch from mercury to have openly gay characters" when gundam preceded destiel and spn by years and the creator of gundam is grateful for the fujoshis for keeping it alive during it's heydays. why exactly should i do that when witch from mercury and sulemio's history isn't destiel or anything from spn but can be traced to media like. revolutionary girl utena which, again surprise surprise, preceded destiel and spn by years. can you explain to me the logic here?

ultrawomanisa Those who are taking this poll to seriously have forgotten that this is for fun. I love the passion form both sides but we must agree to be kind. What destiel did for the LGBTQ community helped laid the groundwork for shows like "the Witch from Mercury" to have openly gay characters and the fact that Destiel made it to the finals shows how popular Destiel still is, So let's put any nastiness behind us and let's have some fun. So come on Supernatural community give us a go fight that will become a legend that the tumblr bards will sing for all eternity! #cannons sink ships 19,498 notes May 14th, 2024 ...

View All 14 Images

Overview

The Destiel vs. SuleMio Tumblr Top Ships Bracket or Castiel x Dean vs. Suletta Mercury x Miorine Rembran refers to memes and discourse surrounding a viral Tumblr poll asking users to vote for their top ship between the Destiel slash pairing, which is Castiel x Dean from Supernatural and the SuleMio pairing, which is Suletta Mercury x Miorine Rembran from Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury. The poll was made in May 2024 and, after 60,000 votes, came out with SuleMio on top. The results of the poll sparked notable backlash on Tumblr, as the Destiel ship is arguably one of the most popular and well-known on the platform, inspiring memes and discourse about the results of the poll.

Background

On May 12th, 2024, Tumblr^[1] user ao3topshipsbracket made a week-long poll for the finals round of their "Tumblr Top Ships Bracket," placing the Destiel slash pairing against the SuleMio pairing. In three days, the poll gained over 60,000 votes, with 65 percent of the votes cast for SuleMio (shown below). The poll gained over 17,000 notes in the same span of time.

tao3topshipsbracket Follow Tumblr Top Ships Bracket - FINALS Castiel/Dean Winchester (Supernatural) vs Suletta Mercury/Mirorine Rembran (Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury) Castiel/Dean Suletta/Mirione 34.8% 65.2% 60,708 votes. Remaining time: 4 days 11 hours This poll is a celebration of fandom and fandom history; we're aware that there are certain issues with many of the listed pairings and sources, but they are a part of that history. Please do not take this as an endorsement, and refrain from harassment. #polls #destiel #sulemio #supernatural #gundam witch from mercury #castiel #dean winchester #suletta mercury #miorine rembran

Developments

The results of the poll garnered significant backlash from some on Tumblr and social media, largely due to the intense presence and importance of the Destiel ship on Tumblr, with many expressing shock over its loss. The ao3topshipsbracket Tumblr^[2]^[3] page answered several questions from Tumblr users about the poll results that week (shown below).

tao3topshipsbracket Follow pockethep asked: Hello Mods! What's your take of the current situation of Sulemio vs Destiel? There have been plenty of arguments on "fandom (and therefore Tumblr) history". And did you have any ships you thought would make it to the finals? Thanks for your work as well. As I type this, it has just overtaken last bracket's Stucky vs Blackbonnet in total votes, and we've still got almost five days to go. I think I speak for the entire team when I say that I am very impressed, a little bit scared, glad that the spotlight of tumblr this week is on us and not somebody less prepared, and incredibly grateful to my past self for making sure this poll wouldn't be ongoing when I got on a plane. The fandom history discussions have been very interesting, as have the splits in people's reasons for voting- are you voting for the ship that's the best? That's the most impactful on tumblr culture? That's the most impactful on fandom history broadly? That represents what you think tumblr is? That represents what you think tumblr should be? That has the less obnoxious fanbase? That has the more obnoxious fanbase? We've seen all those and more! As for predictions, one of the fun things about this bracket is its upsets; every round has had matches I looked at and didn't even have a guess as to how they'd go. There were ships I thought would get close, but I genuinely didn't have much of an expectation about our final two! #not a poll #asks

tao3topshipsbracket Follow takerfoxx asked: Out of curiosity, how surprising is the Sulemio Sweep? It definitely surprised us a bit in the first round! However, considering that Sulemio has a popular blog campaigning for them, plus the fact that people love to vote for female characters even if they don't know them (the "Yuri Duty" phenomenon), it's definitely not as surprising as it could be. We're curious to see what the landscape will be like when we eventually run the femslash-only bracket and the latter point is no longer a factor! #not a poll #asks

Online Reactions

The results of the poll inspired memes, debates and discourse on both Tumblr and X / Twitter surrounding the Destiel and SuleMio ship pairings, with some finding it shocking and unacceptable that Destiel, arguably a more popular pairing on Tumblr, could lose to SuleMio.

For example, on May 12th, 2024, Tumblr^[4] user anesidoraa made a long-form post describing the SuleMio pairing and its popularity to explain why they deserve to win (shown below, left, click to expand). On May 13th, X^[5] user @AdraCat posted a screenshot of the poll results, writing, "I can’t wait for Sulemio to be the new president of tumblr," garnering over 2,100 likes in two days (shown below, right).

anesidoraa Follow "who even are they" i'll tell you then :) 水星の魔女 sulemio is the ship between suletta mercury and miorine rembran from mobile suit gundam: the witch from mercury. suletta is the protagonist and miorine is considered the heroine, but they're the two main characters and their relationship is central to the show. at the start of the show, suletta transfers to the asticassia school of technology all the way from mercury. she runs into miorine, who she later finds out is the daughter of the president of this space empire that owns asticassia. so she's the school princess, but not only that, she's also the "bride". the school rules dictate that the highest ranking pilot/duelist, or the "holder", would be miorine's fiancé. think the rose bride if you know utena. because miorine is essentially a ticket to power, the holder position is highly sought-after. suletta gets caught up in all this and ends up beating the former holder (who's a violent douchebag who hurt miorine), effectively becoming the new holder and miorine's fiancé. that's just episode 1. they go through a lot which i don't want to spoil but they are explicitly and indisputably Married by the end of the story. while sulemio is relatively unpopular here, they are by no means "unknown" or "not mainstream". first of all, they're from gundam and frankly it's offensive how there are people here who don't know what gundam is :)) mobile suit gundam is a 45 year-old franchise and very much a mainstream one as one of the highest-selling media franchises ever. it's literally up there with franchises like pokemon, dragon ball, one piece, etc. witch from mercury in particular was a highly anticipated gundam show for being the first ever mainline series to have a female protagonist in the franchise's long male-led history. a queer poc one on top of that! among the franchise's lead gundams, suletta's gundam aerial recorded the HIGHEST initial sales in the franchise's history. g-witch was also very popular in japan, nearly every tweet from the official account would have 20k+ interactions fast, up to 100k+ likes, and it was the TOP trending anime and 3rd OVERALL on jp twitter in 2023. mind you, unlike in korea and china, twitter is the second most used social media app in japan. both suletta and miorine also often ranked high on jp magazine polls (there were other polls where they ranked first but this is the only pic of a magazine poll i have atm). 機動戦士ガンダム水星の魔女 1 @G_Witch_M ◆◆ご視聴ありがとうございました #水星の魔女最終回、そしてライブ配信を、ご視聴いただきありがとうございました! 皆さまから毎週多くの反響をいただき、 #水星の魔女を応援してくださり感謝の気持ちでいっぱいです。「目一杯の祝福」を皆さまに! #G_Witch Translate with DeepL Translate post 7:10 PM - Jul 2, 2023 -12.6M Views XTREND AWARD 2023 イクイノックス WBCRM VIVANT タイガース… オリックスどうするジャニーズワグネルインボイス #307)->> BROMA イスラエル &tak サンライズ sulemio trended multiple times on twitter, it currently has over 10.7k works on pixiv, and it was the 3rd top ship in japan's biggest doujin convention in 2023. and obviously, they made it to tumblr's top 100 ships of 2023. スレミオすれみおスレミオとは『機動戦士ガンダム水星の魔女」の主人公とメインヒロイン、スレッタ・マーキュリーミオリネレンブランのカップリング名称である。 X Post pixivで「スレミオ」のイラストを見る pixivで「スレミオ」の小説を読む pixivで「スレミオ」のイラストを投稿する pixivで「スレミオ」の小説を投稿する 236214 . P 10728 目次【排表示问カップリングランキング【2023条 (C103) チェックリストに登録 197 カップリング表記ランキング [2023 (C103)】ローゼマイひとりショタミオリネン BS-Bit 錦木千東井ノ上たきな山田リョウ兄フェルディナンド勝生勇利安室透伊地知虹廈模村商伊地知虹夏 OR ンアグネスタキオンマンハッタンカフェ 38 0.9% -10 32 0.8% 15 0.4% 12 0.3% 12 0.3% 12 0.3% 12 0.3% キャラ表記款構成比增成 18-40 1 バーナビー虎徹さん 2 おねえさん 3 スレッタ 4 5 6 ヴィクトル 7 赤井秀一 8 ひとり 9 冴羽獠表記表記数模成比おねショタ 30 0.7% -4 -2 レミオ 26 0.6% 30 0.7% 26 0.6% 29 0.7% 14 4 303 23 0.6% -8 23 0.6% 5 ちさたき 22 0.6% 9 19 0.5% 6 ヴィク勇 15 0.4% 0 17 0.4% -5 ▾ 赤安 14 0.4% 0 11 7 8 ぼす 12 0.3% 8 リョウ虹 12 0.3% 5 10 兄妹 11 0.3% 3 4 7 タキカフェ 11 0.3% 2 12 TE 10 0.3% 9 12 0.3% 13 フェルマイ 8 0.2% 2 流川機 F416 桜木花道 11 0.3% 10 キタサト 8 0.2% 0 虎杖施仁 11 0.3% 15 五级: 7 0.2% now you know g-witch/sulemio are pretty popular even if you've never heard of them from your m/m cave. i'm rooting for sulemio all the way bc i genuinely love the ship and both characters. suletta is pure sunshine and miorine is girlbossfail and my favorite character ever atm. i like their dynamic and the struggle between their simple want to be together vs a lot of external and internal factors driving them apart. sulemio overcoming those and actually ending up together was one of the happiest i've ever been as a viewer. that and i think it's funny that they got this far. #"this is the destiel website" i don't care THIS IS GAY GUNDAM #*olivia wilde gif* we need change! #go yuri #sulemio #g-witch #poll #mytxt

AdraWitchFamiliar @AdraCat I can't wait for Sulemio to be the new president of tumblr Castiel/Dean Winchester (Supernatural) vs Suletta Mercury/ Mirorine Rembran (Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury) Castiel/Dean Suletta/Mirione 39.4% 60.6% 16,993 votes • Remaining time: 6 days, 12 hours 8:56 AM - May 13, 2024 - 811K Views

Also on May 13th, Tumblr^[6] user averyintrovertedfangirl made a post defending the Destiel ship pairing, writing, "as much as you might hate it, this site was built on Supernatural […] Supernatural and Destiel still get talked about and trend over three goddamn years after the show actually ended. It was our heritage, it is THE ship of all time. You can't argue with me on that. I'm not saying you can't like your own show more, but NOTHING will ever come close to Destiel. It isn't a question of who you like more, but if you're asking who deserves to win, it's no fucking contest" (shown below, click to expand).

The post was shared by X^[7] user @OrehCursor that day, writing, "Holy 'They are NOT taking it well' Batman!" garnering over 3,000 likes in two days.

averyintrovertedfangirl Follow ... Me, reading the tags: Hmm, lots of hatred toward Dean and Cas for being... *checks notes* white? and... male. Interesting, these are definitely very strong bases for disliking Destiel. Honestly, whatever. You guys may win this poll, but Destiel wins Tumblr. I'm not going to hate on The Witch From Mercury, I don't know anything about it and I might even like it, but if spn fans were going around yelling YESSS KILL THOSE STUPID ASIAN GIRLS!!! I think that might be called out a lot faster. People seem to be voting against Destiel on principle, whilst admitting they've never seen either show but must do it either "FOR THE LESBIANS!!!" (I've seen a lot of tags saying they're voting sulemio exclusively because they're girls) or "to watch destiel die" (because apparently, a ship from a show you don't watch annoys you that much). What, is it considered cool to hate Supernatural or something? Did Misha Collins kill your dog? Hating it because it was queerbait is one thing, but I think it's the writers you should be hating (and not even all of them, we know which specific ones we hate and which ones did try to give us the gay angel we sought after) and not the characters themselves. If you read into a lot of scenes, it looks pretty clear that it wasn't one-sided, 'show don't tell' and all that. I'm not asking you sulemio fans to bother doing that for a show you don't watch, but at least believe us when we say it. Also, as much as you might hate it, this site was built on Supernatural. I'm gonna say it: THIS IS THE DESTIEL SITE. "But it was in the past," you say. "Move on to a new f------ era, this isn't 2013 anymore." No, it's not, but spn survived a hell of a lot longer than some other stuff from back then. Superwholock crumbled, but Supernatural and Destiel still get talked about and trend over three goddamn years after the show actually ended. It was our heritage, it is THE ship of all time. You can't argue with me on that. I'm not saying you can't like your own show more, but NOTHING will ever come close to Destiel. It isn't a question of who you like more, but if you're asking who deserves to win, it's no f------ contest. I didn't really want to be rude, but reading everyone's tags again made me realise that apparently, it's okay! So I will. Your anime ship will never f------ compare to this. Miorine and Suletta's names won't be known by almost every single person on this site, they won't end up trending higher than a U.S. presidential election, their faces won't be used to deliver breaking news to the world. Most of us don't even know who they are; people are just cheering them on because they're sick of Dean and Cas. Well I've got news for you, assholes: Destiel RAISED this f------ website, and if you don't like it, then leave! There are plenty of other social media sites to choose from; please, f--- off to one of them! Hating those guys and insulting them for being white and male is, as far as I know, sexism and racism! Crazy, right? Maybe, I don't know, FIND A DIFFERENT F------ REASON TO INSULT THEM! Or - and I know this is a mind-bending thought that may not have entered your minds yet - just f------ don't! It's that simple. If your basis for literally hating a couple of characters is "they're white boys and too many people love them", I think you should reconsider your ideals. F--- you for coming to my TED Talk.

On May 14th, Tumblr^[8] user ultrawomanisa made a post suggesting that Destiel "laid the groundwork" for SuleMio to exist, writing, "What destiel did for the LGBTQ community helped laid the groundwork for shows like 'the Witch from Mercury' to have openly gay characters and the fact that Destiel made it to the finals shows how popular Destiel still is." Tumblr^[9] user yakapin responded:

why should I give destiel credit for “laying groundwork for shows like the witch from mercury to have openly gay characters” when gundam preceded destiel and spn by years and the creator of gundam is grateful for the fujoshis for keeping it alive during it’s heydays. why exactly should I do that when witch from mercury and sulemio’s history isn’t destiel or anything from spn but can be traced to media like revolutionary girl utena which, again surprise surprise, preceded destiel and spn by years. can you explain to me the logic here?

The posts were shared by X^[10] user @gwenstacying later that day, writing, "girl they’re trying to claim Destiel is responsible for Sulemio existing on tumblr," garnering over 2,600 likes in a day (individual posts shown below).

The poll also inspired a significant number of memes on Tumblr referencing the poll results, including memes celebrating the SuleMio ship pairing's victory (examples shown below).